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Hey Manmower, what's your opinion on this topic
Gas the kikes; race war now.

But in all seriousness, the reason I love the 'Dex is because it really is one of the last bastions of free speech on the net. I get it that you and some other people are trying to break into the whole game journalist / QA tester / dev hopeful waters, and presiding a forum overflowing with caustic diatribes isn't really conducive to building rapport with publishers and devhouses. This is the main reason Moot distanced himself from 4chan. There isn't money in catering to bitter grognards, nor alienating normies. If you really wanna play it fair, dial down the heavy-handedness, and wave away the racist/sexist bullshit with a (humorously) dismissive comment if any of your future employers try to grill you for it. That way, you can still enjoy this steaming cesspool of vitriol, while building contacts in the gaming industry. It's what I would do.

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Hey jcd, is there any way to view that Ken Levine thread in the OP?

I'd like to read it for the content; I don't really give a shit about the drama.
 

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the whole "Brian Fargo is a con artist" thing is something that went out of vogue on the Codex after 2014.

Only inside your own head. The only reason it hasn't been brought up yet is because he hasn't released a single game since 2014 for us to be disappointed at. Tho I'm sure you have the neutral positive review ready to fire up to counter any other initiative before another incident like PoE's negative reviews happens.
 

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the whole "Brian Fargo is a con artist" thing is something that went out of vogue on the Codex after 2014.

Only inside your own head. The only reason it hasn't been brought up yet is because he hasn't released a single game since 2014 for us to be disappointed at. Tho I'm sure you have the neutral positive review ready to fire up to counter any other initiative before another incident like PoE's negative reviews happens.

My recollection is that it went out of vogue directly after Wasteland 2 was released when people realized that the game was, by and large, not all that bad. You want to talk about the PoE review incident? How about the Wasteland 2 review incident? Oh wait, there wasn't one other than hiver's shitposting spree.

(To be fair, I can see why people wouldn't want to put themselves on the same side as hiver)
 

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My recollection is that it went out of vogue directly after Wasteland 2 was released when people realized that the game was, by and large, not all that bad.

Again, only inside your own mind.

He promised the return of the promised child of old RPGs and we got a mediocre mid 2000s RPG that was burried and forgotten the month right after release instead. If you have to shill at least shill for Larian, it's more believable.
 

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How dare that con artist release the 5th best RPG of 2014 according to RPG Codex's userbase.
 

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Wasteland 2 wasn't bad but the "Fargo the con artist" comes from obvious source - Fargo did certain clever marketing trick that goes like "let's try to fool people into thinking WL2 is going be the new Fallout even though we lack resources, talent and even don't actually know how to make new Fallout, but don't mention it directly, create an impression of the game being real fallout successor" which means that he didn't lie, he never lied about the game but people were having their expectations very, very high and weren't prepared for just "good" game.

Then again the final product shows that the entire studio was clueless when designing this thing.

-Hey Brian, let's think about how to deal with skillchecks
-lol retard it's simple, put a % chance to do it
-but people will just perform the skillcheck again to no end even if they've had 1% chance to do it, it was a problem with fallout as well
-how did we solve the problem in fallout?
-well, if you really tried to do something beyond your skills 1143476 times you've got critical failure and fucked the door/whatever up
-then put the asymmetrical chance for critical failure for most skillchecks, lol
-Brian, you are genius
-Ah, remember to conveniently bind quick save and quick load to function keys
-Will do, boss.
[assuming he did anything but handling the finances]
And the only thing he achieved is the tedium of savescumming because your 75% success rate didn't roll and second attempt was critical failure because reasons.

Basically they've had no idea on how to make the game, they've just aped the older titles. Ripped off combat from nu-xcom slapped action points on top of it etc. The only reason it wasn't bad was that the targets of the cargo-cult were good in the first place, but have him do a cargo-cult tribute to Morrowind and you'll have your dogshit game from con artist.
 

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How dare that con artist release the 5th best RPG of 2014 according to RPG Codex's userbase.

Yeah I mean, just look at Heroine's Quests. That shit was an instant hit. Greatest neo classic RPG of all times. Couldn't read cRPG discussion anymore when it was released they had to merge threads by the dozens. It was plastered all over the press for weeks. I heard they ran out of keys to generate. It's already made it's way into the very exclusive great Hall of Fame of video games of Los Angeles.

Legend of Grimrock 2 too. Great shit. Can't believe technical limitations prevented us from making real time blobbers or so long.

This list is obviously the most accurate metric ever produced for the Kodex Kritical Konsensus.
 

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This list is obviously the most accurate metric ever produced for the Kodex Kritical Konsensus.

Perhaps I should have posted the full list for better perspective.

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Wasteland 2 wasn't bad but the "Fargo the con artist" comes from obvious source - Fargo did certain clever marketing trick that goes like "let's try to fool people into thinking WL2 is going be the new Fallout even though we lack resources, talent and even don't actually know how to make new Fallout, but don't mention it directly, create an impression of the game being real fallout successor" which means that he didn't lie, he never lied about the game but people were having their expectations very, very high and weren't prepared for just "good" game.

thats because the fallout fanbase was and is still larger than the wasteland 1 is,that affected the game development in a a negative way,with fallout fans pressing to insert stuff from fallout (like the special or the aimed shots) which were implemented half baked in the initial release,due of course of the inxiles shortcomings.

still,of the 3 kickstarted "big" rpgs wasteland 2 was the best and denied it makes you a miserable edgelord.
 

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''13- Crusader kings 2 : way of life''. The poll conductor saw fit to list a money grabbing DLC for a grand strategy game as the 13th greatest RPG of 2014.

You can't make this shit up.
 

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Why Legends of Persia is at #45?

It has a 13% positive rating on Steam so yeah that should be lower than Dragon Age Inquisition which I imagine is only as low as it is because of Bioware anti-fans (note that only 8 people gave votes for it).
 
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I miss the times when DU was just a chill admin who occasionally did some nice trolling, the best kind of admin. Wonder what happened that turned him into a cuck.
As I told jcd, I lost a bet.

DU, can we have a new rule, where anyone who complains about moderation is assigned VD as their personal moderator? You, and all other Codex staff, relinquish all moderator privileges with respect to that user's posts, whilst VD is restored full 'reign-of-terror' head moderator privileges for that user's posts only?
 

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Or we could just let jcd continue to bury himself in a mountain of pure dumbfuck stuff. You know, the old-fashioned Codexian Way.
 
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