Development Info Tim Cain at Reboot Develop 2017 - Building a Better RPG: Seven Mistakes to Avoid

[Paul_cz]

https://forums.planetvampire.com/bl...HPSESSID=eaf54hc76ajer7u8spfsea95o3#msg125572

Rik Schaffer: Yes, Source was a big issue. But ATVI was very generous with Troika in most respects. They gave them 6 years of production time. One more year and it would have been nearly flawless.

Interesting interview, but what the fuck? How could Bloodlines have 6 years time in production when the game came out in 2004 and in 98 Troika didn't even exist (or barely) ? I think Rik is misinformed there.

But I gotta say, on my list of games whose dev I would fund if I had Notch money, Bloodlines proper AAA sequel by Obsidian + Mitsoda + Schaffer would be first in line.

 

[Wayward Son]

Troika founded April 1, 1998.
Edit: Dunno if Bloodlines was in production since then though.
Edit2: Bloodlines was started in 2001.

 

[Irenaeus]

Probably meant 6 months.

 

[Latelistener]

Interesting interview, but what the fuck? How could Bloodlines have 6 years time in production when the game came out in 2004 and in 98 Troika didn't even exist (or barely) ? I think Rik is misinformed there.

But I gotta say, on my list of games whose dev I would fund if I had Notch money, Bloodlines proper AAA sequel by Obsidian + Mitsoda + Schaffer would be first in line.

Troika wasn't exactly a big studio, but they managed to develop their own version of Source, and a game with a huge chunk of replayability. Personally, I don't think that could have been done in 3 years. Half-Life 2 took almost 5 years to develop (although with the engine), and it is a linear shooter.

Mitsoda won't go back to Obsidian after the fuck up with Alpha Protocol, so it's not a money issue.

 

[Wonderdog]

https://forums.planetvampire.com/bl...HPSESSID=eaf54hc76ajer7u8spfsea95o3#msg125572

Rik Schaffer: Yes, Source was a big issue. But ATVI was very generous with Troika in most respects. They gave them 6 years of production time. One more year and it would have been nearly flawless.

Interesting interview, but what the fuck? How could Bloodlines have 6 years time in production when the game came out in 2004 and in 98 Troika didn't even exist (or barely) ? I think Rik is misinformed there.

But I gotta say, on my list of games whose dev I would fund if I had Notch money, Bloodlines proper AAA sequel by Obsidian + Mitsoda + Schaffer would be first in line.

They probably started working on a general "gaem" immediately. What else will they do once they set up. Then they pimped it out until someone bought and then used their assets for that. If they did not get the game they wanted they would have used the art assets and coding stuff for some other shit instead.

 

[Diggfinger]

https://forums.planetvampire.com/bl...HPSESSID=eaf54hc76ajer7u8spfsea95o3#msg125572

Rik Schaffer: Yes, Source was a big issue. But ATVI was very generous with Troika in most respects. They gave them 6 years of production time. One more year and it would have been nearly flawless.

Interesting interview, but what the fuck? How could Bloodlines have 6 years time in production when the game came out in 2004 and in 98 Troika didn't even exist (or barely) ? I think Rik is misinformed there.

But I gotta say, on my list of games whose dev I would fund if I had Notch money, Bloodlines proper AAA sequel by Obsidian + Mitsoda + Schaffer would be first in line.

They probably started working on a general "gaem" immediately. What else will they do once they set up. Then they pimped it out until someone bought and then used their assets for that. If they did not get the game they wanted they would have used the art assets and coding stuff for some other shit instead.

I wrote about this in my Jason D Anderson Wiki-page.

Indeed, Bloodlines started production in late 2001/early 2002. Scott Lynch, who worked for Valve, flew Anderson and Boyarsky to Seattle to show them a prototype of the Source engine they were building for HL2. Fun fact: Lynch was formerly employed by Sierra, was a huge Fallout fan, and instrumental in landing Troika their first contract with Sierra for Arcanum.

Boyarsky has mentioned that Lynch put Troika in contact with Activision, who apparently suggested setting a game in the Vampire universe.
(I think the link between Activition and Sierra was that Activision had acquired the latter at some point).

- Digg

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Here in Brazil tabletop RPGs are fairly common.

Must be a western thing then.

 

[Paul_cz]

I wrote about this in my Jason D Anderson Wiki-page.

Indeed, Bloodlines started production in late 2001/early 2002. Scott Lynch, who worked for Valve, flew Anderson and Boyarsky to Seattle to show them a prototype of the Source engine they were building for HL2. Fun fact: Lynch was formerly employed by Sierra, was a huge Fallout fan, and instrumental in landing Troika their first contract with Sierra for Arcanum.

Boyarsky has mentioned that Lynch put Troika in contact with Activision, who apparently suggested setting a game in the Vampire universe.
(I think the link between Activition and Sierra was that Activision had acquired the latter at some point).

- Digg

Kinda insane that Bloodlines were built on unfinished 3rd party by a tiny team in 3 years. The game is so fucking good, quite long, with good production values for its time.

 

[decaf]

The wonders you can do with actual talent.

 

[Jasede]

Inifinijew censoring shit again.
If we can't call someone a cocksucker on the Codex you have sorely misunderstood the culture of this place you mediawhore scumbag. I can't wait for the day you get a job in the industry - they love polesmokers - and sell out like BrotherNone so we do not have to endure your power-tripping assbanditry any longer.

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/3edgy5you.115173/#post-5107716

 

[Alienman]

Wow, didn't know about that. Pure decline in the Codex. Whole page removed.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Oh, look, he's rating "butthurt" posts criticizing what he did. Yeah, that will show how right he was in what he did and how he's not a developer cocksucker.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Ban Infinitron

 

[Wonderdog]

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[Fenix]

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[Wayward Son]

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[Jrpgfan]

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[Excidium II]

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Tim Cain is homosexual.

 

[Jrpgfan]

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Tim Cain is homosexual.

No, you are homosexual.

 

[Chris Avelltwo]

Infinitron is deleting people's posts?

 

[Morality Games]

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Tim Cain is homosexual.

No, you are homosexual.

Tim Cain is gay, though. Married to a guy and everything.

Spoiler

And that guy is HHR

 

[Wayward Son]

Eh, some guys like smoking fags, others like blowing on fags. Me, I do neither.

 

[Fenix]

Married

 

[Irenaeus]

Eight mistakes to avoid

 

[Drog Black Tooth]

tim cain more like tim GAYn amirite