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denizsi

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Yeah. Unless they add things like poison arrows or hurt animals slowing down, all your investment in marksmanship has gone down the toilet.
 

Murk

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Not at all - noobs can use their modest but improved marksmanship (35-50) to accurately hit level X bears as the much more powerful UA/Melee players do the tanking.

Remember, LP is split evenly and is not diminished at all - so a bear that would give 18k LP is going to give 18K lp to everyone.

Archery can be used to take down fleeing enemies, especially foxes/boars that have 1 hit left.

Also, the game is still evolving every second so I doubt they'll just leave archery completely useless.
 

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Mikayel said:
Remember, LP is split evenly and is not diminished at all - so a bear that would give 18k LP is going to give 18K lp to everyone.
not quite how it works, actually. lp are not split evenly, but not reduced one from another either. at least that's how it went when avu and me went hunting once.
 

Murk

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Ah right - I forgot - if you only get a few hits in you get less LP, than someone who did more damage. This happened to me once when I was busy IRL and couldn't set my dewd to pew pew a bear with someone else, I got in and got maybe 4 hits on him and got a lot less LP than whoever I was hunting with.

Regardless - the 1 melee/unarmed tank + noobs with bows strategy should still work and actually get quite a bit of LP for everyone.
 

denizsi

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You don't get it. You throw 3 arrows on a X bear, THREE, and it starts fleeing, possibly to a herd of deers to get insta healing and if you were still following it, you get fucked.
 

DarkUnderlord

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denizsi said:
They've updated the animal AI, so you can no longer safely sit in your boat or in your bear trap and shoot at animals forever. They now flee, and not just flee 10 tiles away and stop. They flee the fuck away from you.

So, I've devised a convoluted but safe way of trap-hunting.

(1) First, you built a corridor trap:

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... and five hours later, when you've finished building your elaborate corridor setup, the bear has walked off-screen and despawned anyway.
 

poocolator

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SuicideBunny said:
or just go ua/melee.
Fuck. Yeah.
Need at least 200 melee, to not get hit as often, and a crapload of constitution, though, for lvl 10 bears.
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Murk

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denizsi said:
You don't get it. You throw 3 arrows on a X bear, THREE, and it starts fleeing, possibly to a herd of deers to get insta healing and if you were still following it, you get fucked.

I said a melee/unarmed figher tanking. that means the melee guy is fighting and the noobs, who before had to resort to gunshipping, just shoot from a distance (doing much less damage than the melee tank, and thus not getting attacked).

liek lrn 2 red lol
 

denizsi

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DarkUnderlord said:
denizsi said:
They've updated the animal AI, so you can no longer safely sit in your boat or in your bear trap and shoot at animals forever. They now flee, and not just flee 10 tiles away and stop. They flee the fuck away from you.

So, I've devised a convoluted but safe way of trap-hunting.

(1) First, you built a corridor trap:

X _ _ X X X
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X _ _ X _ X
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... and five hours later, when you've finished building your elaborate corridor setup, the bear has walked off-screen and despawned anyway.

Indeed, if you're Stephen Hawking.
 

Haba

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Bah. Just shoot the bear 'till it runs, run after it and THEN box it in.

Still, increased the tedium of grinding bears to a level where I can't be arsed to bother anymore.
 

Avu

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The horror turning productive that cannot be...
 

denizsi

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Target acquired:
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Come here kitty kitty
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Come closer
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If you could think, you'd be thinking what a moron you are, by now
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A little too late for that, LOL
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Oh yeah. Now I can hit that ass
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denizsi

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I'm also bringing you the words of Allah, writing it down by building those huge contours. For whom follows and obeys the words of Allah shall be delivered from the evils of untamed beasts and spare the lesser of the beasts from your hands for they too are Allah's creation, who has a purpose to all of his creations.
 

Murk

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kinda pointless to have a solid wall if bears can't get through two con. signs placed 1 hex apart
 

denizsi

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It's a highway for safe passage between grids against all animals. Only the bears can't can't get through a single tile.
 

Murk

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You seriously built a gigantic pathway of construction signs from one GRID to another? and this is used by other people or just you?
 

denizsi

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Heh, kind of. Auto-laying construction signs by groups of 5. Can never really leave it unattended for more than that, too many bears, boars and foxes around.

You seriously built a gigantic pathway of construction signs from one GRID to another? and this is used by other people or just you?

It's not that gigantic. It's only 2 local maps long, spanning between where end-most rivers of two grids are the closest. I've seen others use it and leave rune messages.

I was going to make a walled road and pave the road too, but that would affect the wildlife in the immediate surrounding of the highway too much, making a-walk-in-the-park hunting hard, not to mention requiring maintenance. I'm still on the fence about paving, though. Wanna help?
 

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