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Volourn

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"Awww.... how cute."

Again, it shows its moronity. I'm ugly. Don't lie to everyone.


"He thinks he has a point!"

No more or less than a fool who bashes a game yet still plays it three years after its release. R00fles!
 

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Volourn said:
"I see. I didn't know you were a "follower", I thought you had that individuality thing going , what with all the r00fles and retarded quoting."

You can follow someone's example and still be your own person. Afterall, I want game devloeprs to follow BG and FO as examples of great RPGs; but I sure as heck don't want them to make BG or FO. That be retarded.
Then don't act "retarded", because when you are being a dick, you follow someone's example to the letter. Now, I, of course, have no problems with you being a dick, I find that amusing and entertaining, and that's the only reason why I joined this discussion in the first place. But if you think that you are different when you are being a dick, think again.

"The difference is in the gameplay. In KOTOR 2 it's almost impossible to make a mistake, and no matter what character you choose, it's easy."

Again with KOTOR2. You are preaching to the choir if youa re trying to claim that KOTOR2 is easier than TOEE. Idiot.
I'm not preaching anything, I was trying to explain something to you, but that's a waste of time when you are in a "dick mode"

"Nah, I'd rather see modules in a game with a GOOD combat system!"

Yet, you still play NWN mods, anyways. What a tool.
Can you please sort your quotes by the person you are currently talking to? Or mark them somehow?

"Btw, speaking of your mod, show us what you've got."

Why would I share a mod for agame the Codex doens't like? That be retarded. I'd rather wate your time with other shit. I have shown my mod (or what's done of it) with others; but I will not share it with people who I *know* won't like it. Afterall, you guys feel the graphics, music, game play, combat, etc. suck for NWN and all those things exist in my mod so why the hell would I worry what you think about it. It be a waste of effort to prove myself.
It's not about proving your stupid self, my dear friend with self-esteem issues. You made something, now have the balls to show it and be proud because you made something. Sure, some people wouldn't like it, so fucking what? Are you going to hide your mod forever? Don't be stupid.

Anyway, I would be curious to see what you came up with in terms of gameplay, so feel free to share.
 

Volourn

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"But if you think that you are different when you are being a dick, think again."

Please. You must be the first person on the 'net to accuse me of copying evryeone esle. LOL

Me? The 'creator' of such 'gems' as 'DWARVES GO DWARVES' and 'R00fles!" a mere copycat.

R00fles!


"I'm not preaching anything, I was trying to explain something to you, but that's a waste of time when you are in a "dick mode""

You gave me an example of a game that was easier than TOEE which ultimately proves nothing as I never said TOEE was easier than KOTOR2. And, if that makes me a dick so be it.


"Can you please sort your quotes by the person you are currently talking to? Or mark them somehow?"

Begging gets you nowhere. Confusing others makes my job here even easier.


"It's not about proving your stupid self, my dear friend with self-esteem issues. You made something, now have the balls to show it and be proud because you made something. Sure, some people wouldn't like it, so fucking what? Are you going to hide your mod forever? Don't be stupid."

A. I've showed my mod alreayd to various people so I';m not hiding. I'm not worried about what people think about it. What I said is that why would I share my mod with the 'Codex when the mod is for NWN a game that is hated here? there is no logic about it.

When I had the misfortune to start working on a FO mod I wa smore than happy to share it on the Codex. That included sharing unpopualr ideas like the car thing and gladly accepted criticism of said ideas for myself and on behalf of our team. Beleive me, I cna easily take criticism. The reaosn I shared the Fo mod like I did was becuase a FO mod would be WELCOMED here (if it was good and actually completed, lol) so it served purpose here. Sadly, the Fo mod failed to get off the ground and some good ideas were wasted. And bad ones too. LOL Meh.

If I were to start a thread discussing what my goals for my NWN mod were and various features for it; the only real disucssion would be: NWN sucks. No it does. yes it does. Blah, blah, blah. I'm more than happy to discuss my NWN mod in detail and get full fledge criticism for the parts people dislike and feedback on parts that people like as well.


"Sure, some people wouldn't like it, so fucking what?"

That's right. I, of all people, would somehow be intimidated on what people think of me. After all the names I've been called; I seriosuly doubt. Once again, I have shared my module with others I deem worthy.


"Are you going to hide your mod forever? "

Once again, I'm not hiding it. However, it's a NWN mod so I'm OMG sharing it with the NWN community. I guess, I'm hiding the mod because I ahven't posted about it on the Elderscroll boards. R00fles!

Besides, how will i hide it when I finally finish it and put in on the NWVault where every diunk can play it? What a maroon.

This doesn't mean I won't post about the mod at all here; but I sure won't go out of my way to. If a topic comes up say about people discusisng mods as in this thread; sure I'll bring up my mod since I actually have some idea about mod making..


"Anyway, I would be curious to see what you came up with in terms of gameplay, so feel free to share."

It's freakin' NWN. What do you think the gameplay is like? WHAT? I didn't make my mod tb like TOEE? Perish the thought.

Anyways, this threa dis about defending the honour of TOEE mods. If you think my mod is important - which it is; but not here - then make a thread asking about it. I dare you to. LOL (Ego boost Inc. :; )


"so feel free to share."

I have shared. Plenty.
 

Sarvis

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Volourn said:
"Awww.... how cute."

Again, it shows its moronity. I'm ugly. Don't lie to everyone.

You must not have checked my post count...

"He thinks he has a point!"

No more or less than a fool who bashes a game yet still plays it three years after its release. R00fles!

I'm only bashing one aspect of the game. The game has many good points, as I've said several times. The combat system is just not one of them.

The simple fact is that if there were a toolset for ToEE we'd get great storyline modules fromn players, plenty of character development AND a great combat system. In short it would be PERFECT.

Instead I settle for just the first two, which it turns out can carry the game quite well even for a guy like me who craves a good combat system. NWN is quite good, but the combat system is it's weakness.

Your attempt to construe that as saying I hate the game is the act of a simpleton.
 

Volourn

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"The combat system is just not one of them."

NWN's combat system is one of its many strnegths. Only an idiot thinks otherwise. Only TOEE has a better one. Next.
 

Sarvis

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Volourn said:
"The combat system is just not one of them."

NWN's combat system is one of its many strnegths. Only an idiot thinks otherwise. Only TOEE has a better one. Next.

Wrong. R00fles!
 

Volourn

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Geez.. You make VD seem like a genius. I almost want to pm my module to him for a game he doesn't even own. R00fles! Almost.

Why? Just prove some none listen point that you should been forced to keep your old title.

Double R00fles!
 

Volourn

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"Err... does what Volourn just said make sense to anyone out there?"

No. 'Cause I doubt people are reading this thread anymore. R00fles!
 

Volourn

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"So what, you want another medal for running this thread into the ground? R00fles!"

Only if you get one too. R00fles!
 

Vault Dweller

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Volourn said:
What I said is that why would I share my mod with the 'Codex when the mod is for NWN a game that is hated here? there is no logic about it.
NWN is disliked for several very specific reasons. Your mod may have nothing to do with those reasons.

If I were to start a thread discussing what my goals for my NWN mod were and various features for it; the only real disucssion would be: NWN sucks.
Never know til you try it

Once again, I'm not hiding it. However, it's a NWN mod so I'm OMG sharing it with the NWN community.
Besides, how will i hide it when I finally finish it and put in on the NWVault where every diunk can play it? What a maroon.
Nobody would bother looking for your mod there. You know that.

It's freakin' NWN. What do you think the gameplay is like? WHAT? I didn't make my mod tb like TOEE? Perish the thought.
There was gameplay difference between NWN and HotU, according to you; just like there was one between KOTOR and KOTOR 2. It's all about gameplay.

Anyways, this threa dis about defending the honour of TOEE mods. If you think my mod is important - which it is; but not here - then make a thread asking about it. I dare you to. LOL (Ego boost Inc. :; )
There you go: http://www.rpgcodex.com/phpBB/viewtopic ... 144#113144
 

Volourn

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"NWN is disliked for several very specific reasons. Your mod may have nothing to do with those reasons."

Um. The fact I like NWN is enough to prove my mod will suck.


"Nobody would bother looking for your mod there. You know that."

That's nor my problem. NWVault is a site decidated to those who like NWN and want to play more. If you aren't a fan of NWN you aren't to be found there for good reason. It's the same reason why I have never tocuhed a MW mod no matter how good or bad they be.


"There was gameplay difference between NWN and HotU, according to you; just like there was one between KOTOR and KOTOR 2. It's all about gameplay"

IIRC, my rveiew stated quite clearlt that if you didn't like NWN; you would not like HOTU.

Remember, liking NWN does not = liking the OC. One cna like NWN and not like the OC. I know many people who dislike the OC and get along just fine with them playing and discussing the game.


"There you go: http://www.rpgcodex.com/phpBB/viewtopic ... 144#113144"

Damn. You actually when through with it. Ya called my bluff. :twisted: Ah well...

Out of the fire into the hell.
 

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Volourn said:
IIRC, my rveiew stated quite clearlt that if you didn't like NWN; you would not like HOTU.
Yet you mentioned many improvements that sounded interesting
 

Volourn

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"IIRC, my rveiew stated quite clearlt that if you didn't like NWN; you would not like HOTU."

Of course, unlike my review lines this with their multiple typing errors aren't as clear as they should be... LOL :wink:


"Yet you mentioned many improvements that sounded interesting"

Interetsing, yes, and worthwhile if you alreayd like NWN like the added henchmen and the interaction and of cours e more feats and skills are also good. But, the gameplay itself, has not changed all that much.
 

Linedog

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Volourn said:
What a waste of her modding talents. At least mod games thata re worthwhile - heck, even MW is more worthy and I hate MW even more than TOEE. But, TOEE is dead dead dead dead dead dead dead.

A person devotes her time and energies modding a game she really likes and you step in to take a giant and gratuitous shit on her work just to remind all of a position you have taken a bazillion times already. You are, probably unintentionally, rude and illmannered.
Now, when I check this thread, I find it has been hijacked into another endless round of dumbshit comments about a game you don't like and don't play. What is the point? Why not leave this particular thread to those who are interested in her work and the game and would like to follow the progress of the mod ?
 

Volourn

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Is this the best you got? I didn't know one could only post in threads if they thought a certain way. WOWSERS!
 

Linedog

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Volourn said:
Is this the best you got? I didn't know one could only post in threads if they thought a certain way. WOWSERS!

You miss my point entirely , don't you. It is just incredibly bad form on your part to insert your well known and entirely negative opinion into a thread devoted to a mod which looks as though it required a great deal of hard work to implement. It is rude Volurn. Now, I have been reading your posts for a few years, here and on the old Black Isle forums and have never really taken issue with you. But must you be such a troll when it comes to the work of fellow gamers? If you dislike the game so much, why not refrain from subverting threads dicussing mods for that game unless you intend to test them out?
 

Volourn

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"Now, I have been reading your posts for a few years"

If this were true; you would know why. You also seem to forget that all i really posted in this thread was I felt she was wasting her time making a mod for TOEE. btw, That's what the Codex does - make fun of games they dislike. All i did,w as take this oppurtunity to insult TOEE some more. Just as others do when BG or NWN is brought up - use it as another oppurtunity to bash 'em. Nothing personal.
 

z3r'0'

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Linedog said:
A person devotes her time and energies modding a game she really likes and you step in to take a giant and gratuitous shit on her work just to remind all of a position you have taken a bazillion times already. You are, probably unintentionally, rude and illmannered.
Now, when I check this thread, I find it has been hijacked into another endless round of dumbshit comments about a game you don't like and don't play. What is the point? Why not leave this particular thread to those who are interested in her work and the game and would like to follow the progress of the mod ?

Its just a troll. Following its mindless urges. Pay it no heed.
 

Livonya

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Volourn said:
"Now, I have been reading your posts for a few years"

If this were true; you would know why. You also seem to forget that all i really posted in this thread was I felt she was wasting her time making a mod for TOEE. btw, That's what the Codex does - make fun of games they dislike. All i did,w as take this oppurtunity to insult TOEE some more. Just as others do when BG or NWN is brought up - use it as another oppurtunity to bash 'em. Nothing personal.

Volourn -

God I hope this is my last post on this topic. I need will power to resist.

The bottom line is that the game that I want to play is...

1) Party based
2) D&D or fantasy based (I like D&D rules)
3) Turn based

Given those 3 conditions what do I have to choose from?

I either do a MOD for TOEE to make it the game I wanted, or I play... nothing?

Given the choice between nothing and modding TOEE then I have to got with modding TOEE.

Do you, Volourn, know something I do not?

Is there a party based, D&D style, turn based game that I seem to have missed?

If so please enlighten me.

- Livonya
 

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