People News Torment Kickstarter Update #49: Kevin Saunders leaves inXile, replaced by Chris Keenan

[Xeon]

Man, I just had the biggest facepalm of my life, I mistook Kevin Saunders for Colin McComb. Since I am not good with names, I googled him and Colin's picture showed up. Colin seemed familar and googled and its the one I thought left.

Yea, I hope Torment will still be good.

 

[Zakhad]

I *did* choose those words deliberately, but that's also game development. Ask anyone .

I'm sure. Wasn't saying anything else. Just that they are the significant words here.

 

[Roguey]

Lol, I love how people go apeshit about these kinds of news. Doesn't tell you anything. ANYTHING about how TTON will be come release.

Fuckin' armchair theories, man. They're the best.

Someone needs his

tag back.

 

[ArchAngel]

This sounds bad. I hope TToN will be a more polished experience than what WL2 was.. or what WL2DC is

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

This sounds bad. I hope TToN will be a more polished experience than what WL2 was.. or what WL2DC is

Did you even finish WL2 yet?

 

[CMcC]

Man, I just had the biggest facepalm of my life, I mistook Kevin Saunders for Colin McComb. Since I am not good with names, I googled him and Colin's picture showed up. Colin seemed familar and googled and its the one I thought left.

You've discovered my secret identity!

 

[Fairfax]

Interesting blog post. He says in his farewell post that he's known for using odd words, yet everything there and in the blog post is obviously very carefully worded.

Based on some hints in Kevin's letter ("I do not know what I'll do next") and Chris' ("bring Torment to completion!") it sounds like he got fired because it's Q4 2015 and the game is still not finished. Wasn't the original deadline Q4 2014? So they brought in Chris to save the day.

Except Chris was technically responsible for WL2 going way over budget as well.

Everyone calm the fuck down, most of the game's design documentation is done. Colin, Chris Avellone, and Adam Heine are still playing huge roles as well.

Don't raise pitchforks until you hear the full story.

MCA is not playing a huge role at all.

 

[ArchAngel]

Did you even finish WL2 yet?

I am not talking about story but polish, that games still lacks it in its released state.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

Fuckin' armchair theories, man. They're the best.

Meanwhile, behind the scenes, Brother None's relentless rise to the top continues

 

[Infinitron]

Talking about how Wasteland 2 "went way over budget" is dumb. Wasteland 2 needed to go beyond its Kickstarter budget because if it hadn't it would have been a Shadowrun Returns calibre lite RPG. They probably knew it was going to happen from an early stage.

In any case, the person responsible is Brian Fargo, who decided against the wishes of his president to add the entire California second half to the game. Findley wanted it to be Arizona-only.

 

[Athelas]

Talking about how Wasteland 2 "went way over budget" is dumb. Wasteland 2 needed to go beyond its Kickstarter budget because if it hadn't it would have been a Shadowrun Returns calibre lite RPG.

So you're saying it would've been an RPG that would've been much better received on the Codex?

 

[Infinitron]

So you're saying it would've been an RPG that would've been much better received on the Codex?

Only after the "Wasteland: Shadows of California" DLC campaign.

 

[Fairfax]

Talking about how Wasteland 2 "went way over budget" is dumb. Wasteland 2 needed to go beyond its Kickstarter budget because if it hadn't it would have been a Shadowrun Returns calibre lite RPG. They probably knew it was going to happen from an early stage.

In any case, the person responsible is Brian Fargo, who decided against the wishes of his president to add the entire California second half to the game. Findley wanted it to be Arizona-only.

It's why I said "technically", Chris Keenan was the producer. And it's not dumb at all, since it's a simple fact. They had a $3 million budget and had to spend another $3 million out of their pockets. If having to double the game's budget is not going over budget, what is?

 

[Athelas]

It's why I said "technically", Chris Keenan was the producer. And it's not dumb at all, since it's a simple fact. They had a $3 million budget and had to spend another $3 million out of their pockets. If having to double the game's budget is not going over budget, what is?

When the initial budget is free in the first place, it isn't that much of a disaster.

 

[Fairfax]

When the initial budget is free in the first place, it isn't that much of a disaster.

Not saying it was a disaster, but it is the textbook definition of going over budget. The difference is that in this case the company's CEO bears most of the responsibility. Both InXile and Obsidian underestimated how much it would take to make these games, same thing happened with TToN.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[CyberWhale]

[wishful thinking]Maybe he could join Harebrained Schemes and their new Battletech project...[/wishful thinking]

 

[ksaun]

You've discovered my secret identity!

Shhh... you weren't supposed to tell! (Does the Codex permit multiple accounts by the same physical person or is one of my personalities going to be blocked now?)

 

[Infinitron]

ksaun I guess we need to edit your title now. You might be able to do it yourself, though: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?account/personal-details

 

[ksaun]

ksaun I guess we need to edit your title now. You might be able to do it yourself, though: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?account/personal-details

I don't think I can edit that part. Don't only the illustrious administrators have such power?

(I was able to edit my location and status, though.)

 

[Hobo Elf]

Shhh... you weren't supposed to tell! (Does the Codex permit multiple accounts by the same physical person or is one of my personalities going to be blocked now?)

Not only multiple accounts, but multiple split personalities are common practice on the Codex. Just ask Drog.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

It's why I said "technically", Chris Keenan was the producer. And it's not dumb at all, since it's a simple fact. They had a $3 million budget and had to spend another $3 million out of their pockets.

You really don't get it, do you? They didn't have to do anything. The sales of Early Access evidently succeeded their expectations, and Fargo decided to double-down, which is understandable given how long he was trying to make that game a reality. It was obviously a design decision more than anything else. They could've as well put out just Arizona, and I doubt anyone would even complain, since that alone is 40h worth of content.

 

[Fairfax]

Well, Obsidian is hiring...

You really don't get it, do you? They didn't have to do anything. The sales of Early Access evidently succeeded their expectations, and Fargo decided to double-down, which is understandable given how long he was trying to make that game a reality. It was obviously a design decision more than anything else. They could've as well put out just Arizona, and I doubt anyone would even complain, since that alone is 40h worth of content.

 

[evdk]

leaving the game in the hands of Wasteland 2's Chris Keenan

it's a vomiting dog - the sky is falling

 

[Fairfax]