Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Pre-Release Thread [ALPHA RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[hiver]

I find that avatar going really well with such grumpy arguments.

 

[Rostere]

This was one of my most important complaints with Project Eternity. I do hope they don't listen to that suggestion...

 

[Infinitron]

This was one of my most important complaints with Project Eternity. I do hope they don't listen to that suggestion...

The problem with all of the Codexers who complained about this is that what they have in mind is a Fallout-style single character skill-based system, rather than a D&D 3E-style party-based system which is based mainly on stats, not on skills.

I doubt Project Eternity will have a "long sword" skill. "Combat skills" in Project Eternity will be things like Discipline and Tumble from D&D 3E.

The true combat "skills" in D&D (in the Fallout sense) are one's strength attribute and attack roll, and those are inherently "separated" from non-combat skills.

As for Torment, who knows? Perhaps you should check out the Numenera ruleset.

 

[Roguey]

Numenera's rules are really streamlined. It's a ~storytelling~ system. But not the Storytelling system of course.

 

[Rostere]

This was one of my most important complaints with Project Eternity. I do hope they don't listen to that suggestion...

The problem with all of the Codexers who complained about this is that what they have in mind is a Fallout-style single character skill-based system, rather than a D&D 3E-style party-based system which is based mainly on stats, not on skills.

I doubt Project Eternity will have a "long sword" skill. "Combat skills" in Project Eternity will be things like Discipline and Tumble from 3E.

As for Torment, who knows? Perhaps you should check out the Numenera ruleset.

You had a party in Arcanum and while the system taken as a whole had it's flaws I think that really provides the vision for what is possible.

Yes, of course I would expect that PE uses a combat-centric class system just like in the IE games. But that's no reason to not complain, is it?

 

[tuluse]

Numenera's rules are really streamlined. It's a ~storytelling~ system. But not the Storytelling system of course.

As far as I can tell Torment 2 isn't using much of Numenera. Combat is going to be different, tides aren't in the base system, dialog options can be done with any system, I mean what's left really? Experience and advancement?

 

[Infinitron]

Numenera's rules are really streamlined. It's a ~storytelling~ system. But not the Storytelling system of course.

As far as I can tell Torment 2 isn't using much of Numenera. Combat is going to be different, tides aren't in the base system, dialog options can be done with any system, I mean what's left really? Experience and advancement?

Classes, descriptors and foci.

 

[Roguey]

Numenera's rules are really streamlined. It's a ~storytelling~ system. But not the Storytelling system of course.

As far as I can tell Torment 2 isn't using much of Numenera. Combat is going to be different, tides aren't in the base system, dialog options can be done with any system, I mean what's left really? Experience and advancement?

It doesn't assign xp for killing things. They have the Ninth World setting and their take on the three classes. They might have descriptors and foci.

 

[Infinitron]

Oh, and I can't wait for the flamewars we'll have about the magic system.

 

[Lancehead]

Oh, and I can't wait for the flamewars we'll have about the magic system.

What's so potentially controversial about it? (I don't have much of an idea about the system)

 

[Roguey]

What's so potentially controversial about it? (I don't have much of an idea about the system)

Nanos are wizard-like characters who harness the numenera to work miracles. These miracles, called esoteries, walk the line somewhere between machine and magic, depending on the Nano’s particular skillset.

Doesn't sound like Vancian would fit. Though since it's a rules system by Monte Cook I'm sure they'll be overpowered.

 

[evdk]

Oh, and I can't wait for the flamewars we'll have about the magic system.

Let's start one right now! What's the magic system like?

 

[Infinitron]

Oh, and I can't wait for the flamewars we'll have about the magic system.

Let's start one right now! What's the magic system like?

We don't know yet. That's the point. With no clear set of inspirations there's no telling what they'll come up with.

 

[Excidium]

Cooldowns.

 

[Jaesun]

Oh SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIII

 

[Roguey]

After use, a spell's nanotech batteries must recharge for x seconds/turns.

 

[Lancehead]

Cooldowns.

So TToN's going to be RTwP.

Not that you can't with TB. Hello, Shadowrun Returns.

 

[Brother None]

We're innovating the cooldown mechanic. We're putting cooldowns on everything. Spell? Cooldown. Special attack? Cooldown. Normal attack? Cooldown. Open your inventory? Cooldown. Walking cooldowns. Talking cooldowns. We got cooldowns for everything.

 

[Jaesun]

Updated My Cooldown.

 

[Hobz]

Maybe I should put an idea on the forum for LARP Vancian. You have to remember long series or runes yourself. You cast your spells by gesturing those runes like in Arx Fatalis but with kinect.

 

[tuluse]

What's so potentially controversial about it? (I don't have much of an idea about the system)

Nanos are wizard-like characters who harness the numenera to work miracles. These miracles, called esoteries, walk the line somewhere between machine and magic, depending on the Nano’s particular skillset.

Doesn't sound like Vancian would fit. Though since it's a rules system by Monte Cook I'm sure they'll be overpowered.

It almost sounds like magic might be entirely consumable-based. That would be something different.

 

[tuluse]

Updated My Cooldown.

I've cooldowned my journal.

 

[Jack]

We're innovating the cooldown mechanic. We're putting cooldowns on everything. Spell? Cooldown. Special attack? Cooldown. Normal attack? Cooldown. Open your inventory? Cooldown. Walking cooldowns. Talking cooldowns. We got cooldowns for everything.

I bet even the cooldowns got cooldowns in TToN!

 

[hoverdog]

I'm afraid my enthusiasm for T:ToN has cooled down somewhat.

 

[Jack]