Totally Not Corrupt Professional Objective Gaming Journalism DRAMA

[Brotherman Bill]

I think "I could care less" is supposed to be used ironically, to underline that you could, in fact, not care less. Much like "fat chance" means "no chance at all".

 

[DalekFlay]

I think "I could care less" is supposed to be used ironically, to underline that you could, in fact, not care less. Much like "fat chance" means "no chance at all".

It's really not. If you watch shit from 30 years ago everyone says couldn't. It's just been warped over the years by people who heard it wrong and then say it wrong.

 

[tuluse]

It's really not. If you watch shit from 30 years ago everyone says couldn't. It's just been warped over the years by people who heard it wrong and then say it wrong.

Not sure how one follows the other. 30 years ago people also used to say things were radical, what does that have to do with anything?

I've heard people say I could care less, but I'd have to try. I assume they just dropped the second clause since the meaning is actually obvious.

 

[PlanHex]

Christ, not this again.

Go read the last couple of pages and then kill yourselves instead of restarting this crappy discussion.

 

[Azrael the cat]

Comparing Shakespeare to illiterate idiots who can't write for shit. Yes, facebook retards are those who will, and indeed should, follow in the footsteps of Shakespeare and evolve our languages.

Bravo Codex, you truly are a cesspit. You're the type of idiots who would support that some colleges and universities in Kwa can teach in Ebonics.

Nobody is comparing Shakespeare to illiterate idiots. It's the idea that useful adaptations will stick, while shitty ones will be passing fads (as ultimately, our language will be shaped by our need for expression).

 

[DalekFlay]

Not sure how one follows the other. 30 years ago people also used to say things were radical, what does that have to do with anything?

It has to do with how the phrase started, obviously.

Look if you want to test it just point out to someone in real life that "could care less" means they do care. They always stare at you with a dumb look on their face and they go "oh, yeah." They don't know what they're saying.

 

[deuxhero]

Comparing Shakespeare to illiterate idiots who can't write for shit. Yes, facebook retards are those who will, and indeed should, follow in the footsteps of Shakespeare and evolve our languages.

Bravo Codex, you truly are a cesspit. You're the type of idiots who would support that some colleges and universities in Kwa can teach in Ebonics.

Nobody is comparing Shakespeare to illiterate idiots. It's the idea that useful adaptations will stick, while shitty ones will be passing fads (as ultimately, our language will be shaped by our need for expression).

Do you know any non-English languages? I can tell you that Japanese has grabbed many English words wholesale (which are very easy to spot both because I'm an English native and because they are written in a particular way) not because they were needed (many, even those unrelated to modern technology, are apparently absent from the language "proper" though), but because Japan thinks the English language is cool (even though they are really bad at English).

Most of these have had less than a half century to take hold and it's apparently already a struggle for native authors to avoid them in period pieces.

 

[Azrael the cat]

Comparing Shakespeare to illiterate idiots who can't write for shit. Yes, facebook retards are those who will, and indeed should, follow in the footsteps of Shakespeare and evolve our languages.

Bravo Codex, you truly are a cesspit. You're the type of idiots who would support that some colleges and universities in Kwa can teach in Ebonics.

Nobody is comparing Shakespeare to illiterate idiots. It's the idea that useful adaptations will stick, while shitty ones will be passing fads (as ultimately, our language will be shaped by our need for expression).

Do you know any non-English languages? I can tell you that Japanese has grabbed many English words wholesale (which are very easy to spot both because I'm an English native and because they are written in a particular way) not because they were needed (many, even those unrelated to modern technology, are apparently absent from the language "proper" though), but because Japan thinks the English language is cool (even though they are really bad at English).

Most of these have had less than a half century to take hold and it's apparently already a struggle for native authors to avoid them in period pieces.

I'm thinking longer term than that (there will always be illiterate idiots at any point in time - but that's just 'common use', not a genuine shift in the language). The English words imported into Japanese (katakana?) have been around for less than a century - many of them for less than 20 years. Let's see what aspects of katakana stick around in the Japanese language in another 50 years.

Also keep in mind that 200 years ago, many of these 'illiterate idiots' would have been genuinely illiterate. Even in terms of speech, almost all would have spoken 'lower' dialects that bore little resemblance to 'good grammar'. If there's been any detrimental change, it's that one side-effect of the rise of populism (which is mostly a good thing) is that you can't get a group of cultural elites to tell everyone what artforms and grammar should be held in high esteem, and what should be looked down upon as filthy peasant trash (not that the 'elites' are always right, but this being the Codex, let's just assume that the filthy peasants always get it wrong). That seems like an inevitable result of popular democracy, and I'm not sure how you could separate the detriments from the benefits of populism.


Anyway, my main concern isn't defending current use, but avoiding the stagnation of, say, French, where any changes had to be approved by a government body, preventing the language from adapting to the economic and technological changes of the 20th century.

 

[deuxhero]

Katakana is an entire writing system and isn't going anywhere, even if loanwords (its biggest use, but sound effects, new words in general, foreign names and sometimes native names) cease to exist entirely. The term for the words would be wasei-eigo.

 

[Aeschylus]

Katakana is an entire writing system and isn't going anywhere, even if loanwords (its biggest use, but sound effects, new words in general, foreign names and sometimes native names) cease to exist entirely. The term for the words would be wasei-eigo.

Er, no, wasei-eigo (literally meaning something like 'Japanese-style English') refers to a very specific set of words where the Japanese sort of made up their own meaning for English loan words. i.e. konsento = electrical outlet, or tenshon = excitement rather than tension.

It's true that Katakana itself will not go away though, as it's simply an alphabet (and has actually existed longer than Hiragana, interestingly). And loanwords in a language do not spontaneously 'cease to exist'. Much language change is driven by language contact and borrowing. I mean, almost half of Japanese is borrowed from Chinese at this point anyway, and the borrowing of foreign words is already causing gradual changes to the colloquial native-word phonology.

 

[Sodafish]

Actually the kana are technically syllabaries rather than alphabets.

 

[deuxhero]

And loanwords in a language do not spontaneously 'cease to exist'

If, like "even if some divine act whiped them out".

 

[Azalin]

So it seems Gametrailers fired half their staff a couple of days after E3


http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/13/5807898/gametrailers-layoffs

 

[Tytus]

So it seems Gametrailers fired half their staff a couple of days after E3


http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/13/5807898/gametrailers-layoffs

Dorito Pope is probably still employed though.

 

[DragoFireheart]

So it seems Gametrailers fired half their staff a couple of days after E3


http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/13/5807898/gametrailers-layoffs

Dorito Pope is probably still employed though.

Someone must lead the charge in Dewritos.

 

[CyberP]

LOL. I'm going to read this thread in full later, or until I get bored. I expect it to be a highly entertaining read after checking out the first page, plus I'll learn more about the unabashed lunatics that make up RPG Codex.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

Why don't all companies just upload all their trailers for free on YouTube and just ignore a crappy middleman like GameTrailers?

 

[deuxhero]

Honestly, I'm still amazed Google manages to find a new way to fuck youtube up every few months and its competitors are too stupid to pounce on any of these things.

 

[80Maxwell08]

Why don't all companies just upload all their trailers for free on YouTube and just ignore a crappy middleman like GameTrailers?

Because then they can't get cozy with the whores giving them 10s.

 

[Angthoron]

Why don't all companies just upload all their trailers for free on YouTube and just ignore a crappy middleman like GameTrailers?

GT is a moderated platform.

 

[Tom Selleck]

This is gaming journalism, right? He played a goat simulator.

http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/youtube-star-pewdiepie-grossed-4-million-in-2013-1201221355/

 

[Severian Silk]

We need to get prosper on youtube somehow and then collect the cash. I can't think of a pretext though.

 

[m_s0]

LOL. I'm going to read this thread in full later, or until I get bored. I expect it to be a highly entertaining read after checking out the first page, plus I'll learn more about the unabashed lunatics that make up RPG Codex.

No point in reading everything. All you need to know is that the dorito guy in the post above yours is, apparently, still a respected "gaming journalism" figure. Says it all, really.

Speaking of him, he does look like he's lost some weight since then, though, so maybe the doritos are more sparse these days.

This is gaming journalism, right? He played a goat simulator.

http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/youtube-star-pewdiepie-grossed-4-million-in-2013-1201221355/

That's actually a notch below gaming journalism. Which, in a weird way, makes complete sense all things considered.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Why do you people keep referring to this crap as gaming journalism? It's corporate PR, we dont discuss every official press release from Sony or Ubisoft, why should we discuss their unofficial ones?

 

[evdk]

Why do you people keep referring to this crap as gaming journalism? It's corporate PR

Because it's successful corporate PR.