Totally Not Corrupt Professional Objective Gaming Journalism DRAMA

[retardation]

I once heard Vargas use "I could care less" instead of "I couldn't care less" and that's when I completely stopped watching his reviews. If I, living in the Balkans, can get a better grasp of English language grammar than Vargas, who was born in Texas, then fuck Vargas and his illiterate attempts at journalism.

You do realise that this is how Americans actually speak, right? That they literally say, word for word, "I could care less", and that they consider that to be correct? It's not that Vargas is an especially stupid American, it's that the people as a whole are muddle-headed.

Nevertheless, I'd be surprised if they actually teach that at schools as correct.

 

[Xor]

I once heard Vargas use "I could care less" instead of "I couldn't care less" and that's when I completely stopped watching his reviews. If I, living in the Balkans, can get a better grasp of English language grammar than Vargas, who was born in Texas, then fuck Vargas and his illiterate attempts at journalism.

You do realise that this is how Americans actually speak, right? That they literally say, word for word, "I could care less", and that they consider that to be correct? It's not that Vargas is an especially stupid American, it's that the people as a whole are muddle-headed.

Nevertheless, I'd be surprised if they actually teach that at schools as correct.

Schools don't teach phrases like "couldn't care less" anyway, people pick those up through conversation. And there is nothing grammatically wrong with "could care less", even if it doesn't make sense logically, so there really isn't anything for an English teacher to correct unless they're just annoyed by people using illogical phrases.

 

[retardation]

Schools don't teach phrases like "couldn't care less" anyway, people pick those up through conversation. And there is nothing grammatically wrong with "could care less", even if it doesn't make sense logically, so there really isn't anything for an English teacher to correct unless they're just annoyed by people using illogical phrases.

Frankly, I could care less about that since I don't like Angry Joe anyway.

 

[Average Manatee]

I once heard Vargas use "I could care less" instead of "I couldn't care less" and that's when I completely stopped watching his reviews. If I, living in the Balkans, can get a better grasp of English language grammar than Vargas, who was born in Texas, then fuck Vargas and his illiterate attempts at journalism.

You do realise that this is how Americans actually speak, right? That they literally say, word for word, "I could care less", and that they consider that to be correct? It's not that Vargas is an especially stupid American, it's that the people as a whole are muddle-headed.

No, people who use that mis-phrase are considered retarded here too. Or they are teenagers. But that's redundant I suppose.

You'll hear it sound like "could'n care less" though.

 

[drae]

I tend to think it came from some people murdering a quote they heard. For example, "I could care less - but I'd have to try" could easily be the origin of the phrase. It wouldn't be the first time a quote was butchered, just look at everybody going around saying "you can't have your cake and eat it too", which is something you definitely could do.

 

[Spectacle]

Schools don't teach phrases like "couldn't care less" anyway, people pick those up through conversation. And there is nothing grammatically wrong with "could care less", even if it doesn't make sense logically, so there really isn't anything for an English teacher to correct unless they're just annoyed by people using illogical phrases.

Proper use of idioms is something that should be taught in English class, so this is just another failure of the kwan education system. I don't blame the teachers though, I blame the students.

 

[Derek Larp]

look at everybody going around saying "you can't have your cake and eat it too", which is something you definitely could do.

I always interpreted that as "you can't eat a cake and keep it as a possession at the same time", like when two options exclude each other.

 

[tuluse]

It comes from cakes looking very pretty. If you eat the cake you can't look at it.

 

[J_C]

Schools don't teach phrases like "couldn't care less" anyway, people pick those up through conversation. And there is nothing grammatically wrong with "could care less", even if it doesn't make sense logically, so there really isn't anything for an English teacher to correct unless they're just annoyed by people using illogical phrases.

Proper use of idioms is something that should be taught in English class, so this is just another failure of the kwan education system. I don't blame the teachers though, I blame the students.

No, it is just the way languages are. Every language, in every country. People pick up terms and idioms, which might not be grammatically correct, yet it becomes part of the language's everyday use.

 

[Average Manatee]

look at everybody going around saying "you can't have your cake and eat it too", which is something you definitely could do.

I always interpreted that as "you can't eat a cake and keep it as a possession at the same time", like when two options exclude each other.

Yes, this is what it's supposed to mean. It's a saying that illustrates that two options are mutually exclusive and that you have to choose one. Once you've eaten a cake you don't have a cake anymore.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Schools don't teach phrases like "couldn't care less" anyway, people pick those up through conversation. And there is nothing grammatically wrong with "could care less", even if it doesn't make sense logically, so there really isn't anything for an English teacher to correct unless they're just annoyed by people using illogical phrases.

Neither phrase is "wrong", but the context of their usage determines which is right or wrong.

 

[Derek Larp]

look at everybody going around saying "you can't have your cake and eat it too", which is something you definitely could do.

I always interpreted that as "you can't eat a cake and keep it as a possession at the same time", like when two options exclude each other.

Yes, this is what it's supposed to mean. It's a saying that illustrates that two options are mutually exclusive and that you have to choose one. Once you've eaten a cake you don't have a cake anymore.

So kinda like TRVE C&C

 

[Angthoron]

Schools don't teach phrases like "couldn't care less" anyway, people pick those up through conversation. And there is nothing grammatically wrong with "could care less", even if it doesn't make sense logically, so there really isn't anything for an English teacher to correct unless they're just annoyed by people using illogical phrases.

Neither phrase is "wrong", but the context of their usage determines which is right or wrong.

To be fair, most of the "native speakers" are actually quite illiterate in any given language, native speaker auto-competence is a bit of a myth.

 

[drae]

I always interpreted that as "you can't eat a cake and keep it as a possession at the same time", like when two options exclude each other.

While that IS what the phrase means, the current phrasing garbles the meaning. It's an example of obfuscation, it's not exactly clear and sometimes leads to misinterpretation (and you can understand why this would be the case.) The original phrase was "You can't eat your cake yet have it still" which is a lot clearer in its meaning.

 

[Cadmus]

Schools don't teach phrases like "couldn't care less" anyway, people pick those up through conversation. And there is nothing grammatically wrong with "could care less", even if it doesn't make sense logically, so there really isn't anything for an English teacher to correct unless they're just annoyed by people using illogical phrases.

Neither phrase is "wrong", but the context of their usage determines which is right or wrong.

To be fair, most of the "native speakers" are actually quite illiterate in any given language, native speaker auto-competence is a bit of a myth.

I don't know.. for example here, being able to correctly spell and use the czech grammar is pounded into the children's heads throughout the whole school and people are generally touchy about the subject and notice any mistake and it's seen as embarrassing to write or say something incorrectly. Writing especially.

 

[tuluse]

I don't know.. for example here, being able to correctly spell and use the czech grammar is pounded into the children's heads throughout the whole school and people are generally touchy about the subject and notice any mistake and it's seen as embarrassing to write or say something incorrectly. Writing especially.

English is a fluid language. People don't care very much because something incorrect could be correct tomorrow or vice versa (check the history of the split infinitive for a example of something that was fine then regarded as wrong and is fine now).

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

maybe it's fluid because too many people keep pissing on it.

 

[tuluse]

maybe it's fluid because too many people keep pissing on it.

Yeah man, it totally sucked when Shakespear, Twain, and Asimov started inventing words and new forms of grammar. They should have stuck to what worked in Beowulf.

 

[SuicideBunny]

maybe it's fluid because too many people keep pissing on it.

all languages are fluid because they are just a means to an end, not the end itself.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

still i see no justification to let people keep butchering it just out of sheer ignorance.

 

[evdk]

still i see no justification to let people keep butchering it just out of sheer ignorance.

Why? We let them do that with everything else.

 

[Delterius]

If all you do with your native language is to recount the normative discourse you are dead inside. The world does not deserve something so bad as what you pretend to be your standards, in fact it moves on by thriving on your tears. Go study latin like all the other ghouls.

 

[Agesilaus]

still i see no justification to let people keep butchering it just out of sheer ignorance.

Why? We let them do that with everything else.

Maybe in your community/country. Some societies have standards and regulations.

 

[Ninjerk]

still i see no justification to let people keep butchering it just out of sheer ignorance.

Why? We let them do that with everything else.

Maybe in your community/country. Some societies have standards and regulations.

Yes, like the French.

 

[J_C]

still i see no justification to let people keep butchering it just out of sheer ignorance.

You don't know too much about literature if you think that language isn't changing constantly. Lots of grammaticaly correct idioms would have been considered the butchering of language a few centuries ago.