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[Sir_Brennus]

I know this is the Codex, but....

Jasede wrote:

... flame the sucker to oblivion.

that is way too harsh.

@VD: I agree with you that TW will suck donkey balls, but because of completly different reasons. It will suck because G1-3, ES1-4, UU2, ARX FATALIS (to a lesser degree), LEGENDS OF VALOUR, MISTMARE, FABLE, DESCENT TO UNDERMOUNTAIN, and DUNGEON LORDS did suck. They are shitty action games that have nothing to do role playing but with the player's uber skillzors. They contain nonexistent/bad story lines and are set in huge/small and boring sandbox game worlds.

bye

 

[Elwro]

Play Gothic 2 before you say it has nothing to do with roleplaying.

 

[Sir_Brennus]

Play Gothic 2 before you say it has nothing to do with roleplaying.

CHECK.

Bought NotR boxed yesterday. Had it on cover cd already.CHECK

"shitty action games that have to do with the player's uber skillzors" CHECK

"contain nonexistent/bad story lines and are set in huge/small and boring sandbox game worlds" CHECK

G2 is as shitty as the rest of the bunch!

 

[Admiral Rimjob POOBUM]

Play Gothic 2 before you say it has nothing to do with roleplaying.

CHECK.

Bought NotR boxed yesterday. Had it on cover cd already.CHECK

"shitty action games that have to do with the player's uber skillzors" CHECK

"contain nonexistent/bad story lines and are set in huge/small and boring sandbox game worlds" CHECK

G2 is as shitty as the rest of the bunch!

You need to add "r00fles" to the end of your post.

 

[Sir_Brennus]

Play Gothic 2 before you say it has nothing to do with roleplaying.

CHECK.

Bought NotR boxed yesterday. Had it on cover cd already.CHECK

"shitty action games that have to do with the player's uber skillzors" CHECK

"contain nonexistent/bad story lines and are set in huge/small and boring sandbox game worlds" CHECK

G2 is as shitty as the rest of the bunch!

You need to add "r00fles" to the end of your post.

Oh, I forgot!

r00fles!!!!111oneoneone

 

[Elwro]

G2 is as shitty as the rest of the bunch!

Oh, not the "it requires player skills" retarded argument again. Did you even play the game? Did you even reach Khorinis? Shit, G2's roleplaying possibilities were discussed here many times...

And why on earth did you buy a second copy if you think it's shit? Loonie: CHECK

 

[Sir_Brennus]

G2 is as shitty as the rest of the bunch!

Oh, not the "it requires player skills" retarded argument again. Did you even play the game? Did you even reach Khorinis? Shit, G2's roleplaying possibilities were discussed here many times...

And why on earth did you buy a second copy if you think it's shit? Loonie: CHECK

The "retarded argument" was discussed all along, but never resolved AFAIK. Even if most of the Codexers/Watchers have a soft spot for G2, there never was a hive mind postion to it's dumb and shitty combat. I actually admit that I had more fun even with Morrowind, because stats were more important in combat there than player's skills.

BTW: I'm a collector. I even bought Oblivious CE even if I had one copy already. I bought NothR retail version for the money they offered me for my old Oblivion copy.

 

[Zomg]

Just say that you're talking about action skill, as opposed to your squad tactics command skills, or elite quartermaster skill at rationing healing potions, or spreadsheet autism skill for picking the third level of monkey grip at the optimum level. Just belting out "PLAYER SKILL" as though it were a fully-formed criticism is now outre.

 

[Sir_Brennus]

Just say that you're talking about action skill, as opposed to your squad tactics command skills, or elite quartermaster skill at rationing healing potions, or spreadsheet autism skill for picking the third level of monkey grip at the optimum level. Just belting out "PLAYER SKILL" as though it were a fully-formed criticism is now outre.

I thought by writing "player's uber skillzors" it was self explanatory - especially in connection with "shitty action games ".

Okay, for clarity's sake: "player's uber action skillzors"

 

[Zomg]

Just to replay this dance, why is action skill less legitimate than quartermaster/SQDT/autism skill?

 

[John Yossarian]

Just to replay this dance, why is action skill less legitimate than quartermaster/SQDT/autism skill?

Won't it make your character's combat skills less relevant? Note that it won't happen with QM/SQDT/Aut. since your character doesn't have those.

 

[Zomg]

That's only by creative fiat. You could easily have a game where those things could be shifted into the character realm. If player skill is the great enemy then the ultimate RPG would never let you, the player, do anything.

 

[Vault Dweller]

What if I were to say, VD can't get the taste of Volourns cock out of his mouth. You keep defending him. Even when he explained to you that you were full of shit for trying to defend him and you insisted that he was a good poster, referring to his past post as evidence.

Well, you see, your point - no matter how silly I may find it - is explained. Had you posted "VD sucks Volourn's dick lol" 3 times in a row, that would have been a different story that could have ended tragically.

Btw, I did threaten Volourn with a ban a few months ago when he forgot to take his medicine again. As for his posts, here is his NWN2 review to show you that we are not talking about ancient history here:
http://www.rpgcodex.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=15982

Anyone who takes an effort and interest in writing a game review and sharing it with people here gets my respect.

Yeah this guy is bashing the site, so what?

Do you really think that I give a damn about people who bash the Codex here or elsewhere?

What exactly about this one poster, who you obviously don't like...

I don't *obviously* dislike him as we've never had any disagreements. I dislike anyone who behaves like a moron and spams threads needlessly. I really see no difference between his post and "buy viagra/wow gold here". We ban all spambots, and Geminito shouldn't be threated differently.

 

[TheGreatGodPan]

So, is there a single good reason why I shouldn't ban his dumb ass? I don't mind different opinions, but his posts are nothing but spam.

Only the fact that there have been many better candidates who didn't get banned

I can't think of any. Even the stream of tards that came over from the ESF starting "Why don't you guys like Oblivion?" threads merit higher than Geminto, who has made the same exact post more times than I care to count in a row. He contributes nothing, and I'll consider aphatmc~ and Nick the Imperial to be real contributors in comparison. Banning him might break Codex tradition, but I can't understand why he doesn't have dumbfuck title and can't think of anyone more deserving of banning either. All he does is say that the site is shitty, yet here he is posting. If he really hates the site, banning him would be doing a favor.

 

[Vault Dweller]

He contributes nothing, and I'll consider aphatmc~ and Nick the Imperial to be real contributors in comparison.

All he does is say that the site is shitty, yet here he is posting. If he really hates the site, banning him would be doing a favor.

Excellent points.

 

[John Yossarian]

If player skill is the great enemy then the ultimate RPG would never let you, the player, do anything.

I wasn't advocating this, nor do i agree with Brennus that all those games sucked as RPGs becaused they involved some player skill. But do you agree that if you let the player influence character skills it makes them less relevant, regardless of which skills those are?

 

[Perishiko]

If player skill is the great enemy then the ultimate RPG would never let you, the player, do anything.

What does player skill have to do with playing the game?

RPG's with twitch combat have nearly nothing to do with the way you choose to make your character. It's all about how fast you can react to the shit thrown at you, the person that attacks you, ect. (Action games have done this since their begining...)

RPG's with characters skills making the difference, make the rolls for you. You'll do good in combat depending on what choices you made while making your character. Of course, some strategizing normaly comes into play during the combat.

 

[MacBone]

1. I like that mod because I am good.
2. I hate that mod because I am evil.
3. Exit dialog.

<sarcasm>Yeah, I sure miss the cunning required in KOTOR's dialog...</sarcasm>

Sounds like another craptastic Bioware plotline. Except it's Obsidian. It's a Nasher alright.

Will NWN2 feel like a bad Diablo clone line NWN did? I couldn't bear it.

You mean there should be a time limit on the game? That was very unpopular in Fallout. I didn't mind the time limit, actually... the urgency added something to the story. But people who wanted more time to explore complained.

Good game music is meant to enhance the in-game experience, and Morrowind's music was great for that. Sounds like Oblivion music will do the same. Not much to listen to on its own though... Yeah, just wait for the game.

Oops, I mean Oblivion sucks and no RPGs are good anymore.

I culled those from his last ten posts. Most of his posts are negative, either criticizing Vault Dweller or non-Bethesda games, and his complaints are repetitious. Still, he rarely posts here and occasionally offers up his own point of view, and his posts are certainly not "nothing but spam." The last time I checked, being negative wasn't a bannable offense, and Nick the Imperial spammed much more. Geminito's criticism lacks creativity and imagination, so stick the guy with a Dumbfuck tag and be done with it. Don't ban him just because he has a personal hard-on for you, VD.

 

[Elwro]

If Gothic 2 was a game with turn based combat, it'd still have a similar number of choices & consequences. Player's skill in reacting in real time or calculating APs is completely irrelevant for this.

 

[Vault Dweller]

I culled those from his last ten posts.

10 months ago.

...and his posts are certainly not "nothing but spam."

Lately they kinda are.

 

[Diogo Ribeiro]

Don't ban him just because he has a personal hard-on for you, VD.

If that was reason enough to ban Vault would have banned me long ago, since my hard-on for him knows no bounds

 

[MacBone]

10 months ago.

I would have posted newer posts, but, well, he's only posted once in the past six months. If you're only going by recent posts, toss out all but one of your examples, too.

Lately they kinda are.

He's only posted once lately, right? Or are you going back ten months, too? If so, include the posts I cited in your deliberations.

Are you sure this isn't personal, VD? Would you consider banning Geminito if he had been intermittently attacking, say, Volourn for the past year and a half? I think Geminito's just stalking you, big guy.

 

[Volourn]

Wow. impressive. Even when I'm not involved in a thread; my name is all ove rit. Impressive.

I salute me. :shock:

 

[Vault Dweller]

Are you sure this isn't personal, VD?

Absolutely. I'm sure you are aware that I'm often being attacked for this or that, and I've never ever tried to use my admin powers to win an argument. There are plenty of people I've had "heated arguments" with, from Role-Player to Exitium. Good ol' Exit attacked me on sight when he was an admin, and we shared many special moments together, yet when he was relieved from his position, (which didn't stop him from attacking me), I didn't do anything about it. So, no, it's not personal.

Would you consider banning Geminito if he had been intermittantly attacking, say, Volourn for the past year and a half?

Again, it's not about attacking, it's about posting spam. Even if he posted "Fallout is teh awesome and it's not surprising!" five times, even then I would have considered banning him.

 

[LCJr.]

The codex anti-ban policy is an argument against it.

I didn't think Nick the Imperial should have been banned. And to be honest the boards didn't look that much different from when the Oblivion bashfest was in high gear. But then again I don't have to clean up after the little bitch.

Also, if you ban him, you will really have to make a great purge amongst the countless idiots who joined the site recently.

Yes, the sudden influx of morons is quite disturbing.

And you know, if you start, this could get outta control, the codex would be nearly wiped clean of life, a great cleansing. An atomic spark struck by human hands, quickly raged out of control. Spears of nuclear fire rained from the skies, continents were swallowed in flames and fell beneath the boiling oceans. Humanity was almost extinguished, their spirits becoming part of the background radiation... you know the rest.


But hey, what are dumbfuck titles made for?

Didn't you hear? The Codex is already dead.