Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[Blackmill]

So, is it even possible to steal one of the good jet skis from Ray's shop without turning core city hostile? I can get into the shop but not to the good stuff.

It seems impossible with how the cameras are positioned. But maybe I'm missing something. I already tried killing the cameras -- doesn't work.

afaik its impossible. Ive tried to steal jetski before expedition happens, when no one is there. On return from expedition suddenly whole core city is hostile. Its like if ray returns, checks the camers and start talking.

Related: im not aware of single jetski ray will buy besides lemurian one. I'd parse it together as: you are not to buy/acquire proper jetski before last 25% of expedition content.

The cameras don’t notice the player very quickly in turn based mode. I think with an absurd amount of AP and movement points, you could at least reach the good jet skis. But I think you’ll be caught during the hot wiring which doesn’t benefit from the Burglar feat. If you can enter combat mode in a jet ski, I think you could get away, though.

 

[SenisterDenister]

It may be my relatively high stealth skill, but as long as you're doing everything while under in stealth Ray won't do anything to stop you even if you're directly underneath a camera. For reference my stealth skill was about 120 when I started doing all that. And for non-stealth players you can easily bump it up by 60 points with a coat, balaclava, and tabi boots.

 

[Blackmill]

It may be my relatively high stealth skill, but as long as you're doing everything while under in stealth Ray won't do anything to stop you even if you're directly underneath a camera. For reference my stealth skill was about 120 when I started doing all that. And for non-stealth players you can easily bump it up by 60 points with a coat, balaclava, and tabi boots.

Huh, I have way more stealth than that, and the cameras always turn red. They have truesight, after all. I'm specializing in interloper too. I wonder if this was changed because that seems like too low a requirement to steal a 40,000 charon vehicle. I'll try again though.

Edit: Did you steal before or after setting off with the expedition?

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Blackmill]

Alright, I'm making progress. I got to the good jet skis by stealing one of the crummy ones from outside, then riding it through the gate. Now to see if I can snag one of them.

 

[SenisterDenister]

It may be my relatively high stealth skill, but as long as you're doing everything while under in stealth Ray won't do anything to stop you even if you're directly underneath a camera. For reference my stealth skill was about 120 when I started doing all that. And for non-stealth players you can easily bump it up by 60 points with a coat, balaclava, and tabi boots.

Huh, I have way more stealth than that, and the cameras always turn red. They have truesight, after all. I'm specializing in interloper too. I wonder if this was changed because that seems like too low a requirement to steal a 40,000 charon vehicle. I'll try again though.

Edit: Did you steal before or after setting off with the expedition?

It was all afterward. The cameras detected me, yes, but as long as I was under stealth Ray never came and bothered me. I always made sure to do it out of the sight of his buddy, too.

*edit: I had not realized this was for stealing the jet skis themselves, I thought you meant stealing parts out of them. As soon as you hop onto a jet ski you unstealth which busts everything you were working towards. No, what you want to do is take the parts out first, then buy it super cheap. If you really want to be a monsters you can (styg don't read this next part pls)

Spoiler

take the parts out, buy it super cheap, then put the parts back in and sell it for more than it was worth and make bookoos of charons.

 

[Blackmill]

Alright, I'm making progress. I got to the good jet skis by stealing one of the crummy ones from outside, then riding it through the gate. Now to see if I can snag one of them.

Alright, I give up. You can actually steal the Devastator without turning any of the cameras orange or red. But Styg appears to have put in a fail safe. Taking any jet ski past the gate automatically makes core city hostile. Regardless of if any person (or camera) saw you. Just a single tile past the gate triggers hostility. Too bad... I feel like this could be a fun area for characters that really went all in on stealth.

But you can steal one of the junk jets parked outside the gate.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Don't click on these links if you don't want to be spoilered, it's mined data. You've been warned.
Had some success in deobfuscating Underrail, thought someone here might be interested.
Here's what I assume is all the possible endings: https://pastebin.com/kGHDKNXF
Here's what I assume is all the possible quest log updates: https://pastebin.com/xVx0R15T

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Any advice on where to find top quality PSI beetle shells? Best I've found is 60ish from the goliath beetles near Core City.

 

[Spark Mandriller]

Any advice on where to find top quality PSI beetle shells? Best I've found is 60ish from the goliath beetles near Core City.

They're randomly generated, so there's no trick to it. You just have to keep farming goliaths until they drop a good one.
You can save scum for high quality by saving/loading outside a zone with beetles that have respawned. Doesn't work if you haven't killed them once already though. The original beetles (and all creatures) have their drops set as soon as you begin the game, but respawns are only generated as you enter the zone they're in so saving/loading works.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[ciox]

Don't click on these links if you don't want to be spoilered, it's mined data. You've been warned.
Had some success in deobfuscating Underrail, thought someone here might be interested.
Here's what I assume is all the possible endings: https://pastebin.com/kGHDKNXF
Here's what I assume is all the possible quest log updates: https://pastebin.com/xVx0R15T

huh

Spoiler

so you can make Todd join pirates after all, I couldn't make that happen. Cap'n didn't care about Todd and neither did Donnie seem to care

 

[ItsChon]

Don't click on these links if you don't want to be spoilered, it's mined data. You've been warned.
Had some success in deobfuscating Underrail, thought someone here might be interested.
Here's what I assume is all the possible endings: https://pastebin.com/kGHDKNXF
Here's what I assume is all the possible quest log updates: https://pastebin.com/xVx0R15T

Very nice. Thank you.

 

[epeli]

Had some success in deobfuscating Underrail, thought someone here might be interested.

Aw, got my hopes up for nothing. That's just decompiled, not deobfuscated.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Had some success in deobfuscating Underrail, thought someone here might be interested.

Aw, got my hopes up for nothing. That's just decompiled, not deobfuscated.

That is deobfuscated, he's using dotfuscator.
There's no way to restore the symbol names, they're gone for good.
This is what most of the code looks like when it's obfuscated, across ~6500 files:

 

[Black Angel]

I want to ask a lore question. The common opinion here seems to be, that wiping out the natives is (morally) the right thing to do. What are the arguments for doing so? I remember some of their backstory but maybe I'm missing some details? Trying to roleplay as "neutral-good" mercenary, one has to think about the fact that, while not shown in the game, there have to be some children amongst the natives' population. I need some motivation to dominate them all.

I see that no one answered you this, and it seems you've missed some spoilers I and others put in previous pages, but here you go anyway:

Spoiler

If you pay attention to all the things in the Substation, especially those in the Special R&D Department, the natives are actually the descendants of the subislanders who were part of the Special R&D and killed a lot of people before storming out of the Substation, most likely under the influence and corruption of the Flottsormir, by way of the Shadowlith. I even vaguely remembered encountering a drawing of the natives rune somewhere in the Special R&D, the one you can see in Expedition wallpaper and also as oddities.

By these facts alone, the natives are an abomination and thus should be culled accordingly.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Any advice on where to find top quality PSI beetle shells? Best I've found is 60ish from the goliath beetles near Core City.

They're randomly generated, so there's no trick to it. You just have to keep farming goliaths until they drop a good one.
You can save scum for high quality by saving/loading outside a zone with beetles that have respawned. Doesn't work if you haven't killed them once already though. The original beetles (and all creatures) have their drops set as soon as you begin the game, but respawns are only generated as you enter the zone they're in so saving/loading works.

What do you mean by Zone? Is that the individual room, a collection of rooms, or the entire map as shown in-game? Should I save in Core City, exit, run to the lower passages, then kill beetles? Or can I save outside the entrance to the lower caves?

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Lord_Potato]

Okay.

Whoever invented those Locusts fuckers can feel proud. He is a first class sadist.

Even when I win against their hordes and manage to destroy their nests, usually parasitic infection kicks in and I die shortly after the combat.

Seriously, what the actual fuck? The game used to be difficult before, but it was never unfair. Now I feel like someone is taking a piss here.

 

[ciox]

Okay.

Whoever invented those Locusts fuckers can feel proud. He is a first class sadist.

Even when I win against their hordes and manage to destroy their nests, usually parasitic infection kicks in and I die shortly after the combat.

Seriously, what the actual fuck? The game used to be difficult before, but it was never unfair. Now I feel like someone is taking a piss here.

I guess they are so brutal because they can be hard countered with the right gear.

The real troll is when you shit out a locust because of the parasiting, and it kills you. That will probably be an achievement eventually.

 

[CappenVarra]

Don't click on these links if you don't want to be spoilered, it's mined data. You've been warned.
Had some success in deobfuscating Underrail, thought someone here might be interested.
Here's what I assume is all the possible endings: https://pastebin.com/kGHDKNXF
Here's what I assume is all the possible quest log updates: https://pastebin.com/xVx0R15T

hmm, so this stuff is all hard-coded in the executable - meaning, changing it requires recompilation... that's a bit amateurish, but not unexpected tbh

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Any advice on where to find top quality PSI beetle shells? Best I've found is 60ish from the goliath beetles near Core City.

They're randomly generated, so there's no trick to it. You just have to keep farming goliaths until they drop a good one.
You can save scum for high quality by saving/loading outside a zone with beetles that have respawned. Doesn't work if you haven't killed them once already though. The original beetles (and all creatures) have their drops set as soon as you begin the game, but respawns are only generated as you enter the zone they're in so saving/loading works.

What do you mean by Zone? Is that the individual room, a collection of rooms, or the entire map as shown in-game? Should I save in Core City, exit, run to the lower passages, then kill beetles? Or can I save outside the entrance to the lower caves?

load screen with autosave.

I believe goliaths have higher quality shells.

I've save-scummed the goliaths already and only got around 60 quality, I was wondering if that was the ceiling or if there were higher level goliaths anywhere.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Those crabs hiding in the ground fucking startled the shit out of me. It is more of that loud sound effect that goes *BRAAAAAAK*

And the sfx setting is too loud.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Parabalus]

Any advice on where to find top quality PSI beetle shells? Best I've found is 60ish from the goliath beetles near Core City.

They're randomly generated, so there's no trick to it. You just have to keep farming goliaths until they drop a good one.
You can save scum for high quality by saving/loading outside a zone with beetles that have respawned. Doesn't work if you haven't killed them once already though. The original beetles (and all creatures) have their drops set as soon as you begin the game, but respawns are only generated as you enter the zone they're in so saving/loading works.

What do you mean by Zone? Is that the individual room, a collection of rooms, or the entire map as shown in-game? Should I save in Core City, exit, run to the lower passages, then kill beetles? Or can I save outside the entrance to the lower caves?

load screen with autosave.

I believe goliaths have higher quality shells.

I've save-scummed the goliaths already and only got around 60 quality, I was wondering if that was the ceiling or if there were higher level goliaths anywhere.

psi crabs in expedition are probably better for you, they go high in quality. But then I wouldnt know, never really played with psi

Not worth it, you get ridiculous armor penalty for +5 psi skills. They also don't have the 10% discount but have +2 regen, which is much worse.

There are 5 goliaths in front of Hanging Rat (north of Rail crossing train station), and another pack a bit further north, that's prob your best bet. They respawn pretty often as well.

The quality is just random, if it irks you you can CE their quality.