Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[Major_Blackhart]

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[Twiglard]

Maybe he is just one intelligent dude that somehow gathered all this knowledge? But how? Does he did archeology? Had access to some library or gathered all these pieces of data?

Nothing too unusual about his learnings. He's some half-karmic half-Gnostic half-Luddite guy. Stumbled upon some Old World texts. That's it.

 

[Zeem]

UnderRail is certainly a game of many mysteries. But there is one in particular that bites and gnaws at me whenever I play...

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What's up with those head-tentacles all the Tchortists have? They're never really commented on anywhere.

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I think they're just decorative, like a lot of other tentacle imagery Tchortists have. Maybe Eidein's are real, though.

Ferryman is like fricking Ted Kaczynski. ITZ THE TECHNOLOGY MAAAAN! We think of ourselves as too smart, smarter than creators, thinking we all figured it out, morality became obsolete, the rules created at whim with whole societies bending to them. Wonder who the ferryman is. Maybe he is one of the rahm-umbra people.

Speaking of which -anyone tried attacking him and killing?
Edit: Apparently you can kill him. So its impossible for him to be rahm umbra. Maybe he is just one intelligent dude that somehow gathered all this knowledge? But how? Does he did archeology? Had access to some library or gathered all these pieces of data?

He doesn't consider technology itself to be evil, rather it simply amplifies the inherent imperfection of man - mostly via increased connection with the material world. Ted is very much materialistic and only considers the effects of industrial society on the human psyche.
Ferryman explicitly mentions that his philosophy is cobbled together from the bits and pieces of old world that he pulls out with his barge's crane. He's a scavenger after all, and Lemuria is a treasure trove of lost culture and knowledge.

Ferryman's philosophy reflects all of the game honestly, even Tchort. The whole thing is about a descent of humanity. But NFT, that was all kinds of fucked up. Abyssal Station Zero is really the Zero Point for the beginning of that world's end. Biocorp hastened it, absolutely. By maybe a century or two. But the Atlanteans in Abyssal Station, studying that cursed Obelisk. If Lemuria didn't fall to Biocorp, it would surely have been eaten up or brutally wounded by the Atlanteans in Abyssal Station Zero when the scientists started delving into the oblivion of black pillar.

Some people think Flottsormir is a Leviathan. I've even surmised that it's the remains of one that was destroyed outside of mars in the pillars visions, the spirit of the beast slowly dying still, or having become something else entirely from the weapon of the Godmen. But honestly, I don't think so. I think Flottsormir is just another monster from the beyond.

Can't help but to keep thinking of Hellboy's good stories, where there are things in the beyond, in the void, that have no real physical form as we can understand.

Abyssal Station Zero wasn't even constructed when NFT moved underground, and the Shadowlith was only discovered 20-30 years before the fall of Lemuria. Surface was rendered uninhabitable long before that point, and Underrail was doomed from the start with its poor government structure.
Flottsormir doesn't seem heavily connected to Leviathans, but considering the nature of the Shadowlith it might be very much possible that it was somehow related to the Leviathan orbiting Mars. Maybe as a weapon to be used against Godmen, bypassing their range advantage and striking them psionically? Of what if the red planet is not Mars, but a young Earth?

 

[Ol' Willy]

Cultists in tchort institute doesn't seem mutated like the usual subjects that end up in tchort mutagen tanks. Or if the mutation occured it was very benign -as we see by tentacles. Unless these are cosmetic and added as a part of the outfit.

Some Tchortists outfits have tentacles on them already.

Most likely it is just plush tentacles

 

[jackofshadows]

UnderRail is certainly a game of many mysteries. But there is one in particular that bites and gnaws at me whenever I play...

Spoiler

What's up with those head-tentacles all the Tchortists have? They're never really commented on anywhere.

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Nah - that's part of their uniform, after Eiden.

I like much more the Faceless mystery. Like *enigmatic voice*: "no one knows what exactly behind their masks" etc. O RLY? And what about dead Faceless, no one could care enough to rip it off?

 

[Zeem]

I like much more the Faceless mystery. Like *enigmatic voice*: "no one knows what exactly behind their masks" etc. O RLY? And what about dead Faceless, no one could care enough to rip it off?

Faceless don't leave the bodies of their fallen lying around, and they don't like to leave witnesses either. Plus I presume removing a mask from one of them is a bit more involved than just pulling it off.

 

[Ol' Willy]

PC can wear it too and will have tentacles as well

 

[CHEMS]

That boss fight in the utility towers is fucking bullshit. Never doing it again.

 

[Ol' Willy]

PC can wear it too and will have tentacles as well

Forgot to add, these tentacles surely look like sausages

 

[jackofshadows]

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[Major_Blackhart]

That boss fight in the utility towers is fucking bullshit. Never doing it again.

Pics?

 

[CHEMS]

That boss fight in the utility towers is fucking bullshit. Never doing it again.

Pics?

Don't have them, but it's basically a puzzle, a bullshit puzzle. You have to interact with frozen corpses (restless dead) and choose the right option of what would you do to help someone suffering from hyphotermia. Each time you do it, ice will rise which you need to destroy to get to other corpses. All of this while a untargetable creature named Demise is constantly zapping you with cryokinesis.

It was really annoying to do so, because Demise will attack you even when you have the dialog window open. You have to deal with all this bullshit while constantly going back to the single campfire in the level, otherwise you'll rack debuffs and Demise will fuck you up. You constantly have to destroy the ice in order to get to the campfire or the other corpses and you'll get the debuffs while doing it and Demises attacks lower you con. Ah, did i mention that this fucking bullshit ghost can crit you? Sometimes it's an instakill even though its attack didn't even pierce my energy shield. 9 CON, full health, no debuff, got hit for like 9 damage and fucking died. Don't know if there's a hidden timer that kills you during the "fight". And of course the ever respawning ice that blocks your path are hard to target. You try to hit one, you hit other one that you'll constantly missclick, And of course they have lots of HP because why the fuck not?

Once you deal with all this bullshit, the ghost dies and you get that useless perk. I'm not kidding when i say it took me over 30 tries to finally beat it. Sometimes you interact with a corpse and it will only show your reflection, the game doesn't give you hints what to do next. Or maybe it does with the dialoge floats, but i don't even think those are working correctly.

On top of that bullshit cake, there's the constant CTDs i get while doing that. Just fucking awful. Hated it.

 

[CHEMS]

Oh yeah, forgot to add. This BULLSHIT boss fights takes place on top of the tower, and you can't save in the two levels bellow it. So on top of all that BULLSHIT, everytime you die and reload, you have to climb two levels before getting raped by this faggot ghost. Holy shit what a horrible experience. Worst thing EVER added to the game, by far. Even more cancerous than the whole fetid marsh combined.

 

[Tygrende]

I just went into the utility tower with 100% cold DR. I haven't lit a campfire once.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Don't certain clothes mitigate freezing?

 

[Tygrende]

Don't certain clothes mitigate freezing?

Bison armor makes you immune to both chilling and freezing. 100% DR of any damage type cannot be reduced by any means period (it's also how Six' immortality works) so the whole thing was more or less a comfortable trip.

It's quite easy to get 100% DR with insulated bison armor, bison tabis/insulated bison boots and balaclava/insulated metal helmet. I used leftover super steel from nagas for infusing.

 

[Trashos]

Tygrende, I am watching your crowbar build vids on youtube these days. Awesome work, man!

They inspired me to try a melee build next (not a STR one though, I am scared to play with low initiative).

 

[Trashos]

Also, has anybody ever found a taser anywhere? I want to experiment with not investing in Electronics for some builds, but I want my freaking taser. I do not think I have ever seen one other than the ones I craft.

 

[Tygrende]

Tygrende, I am watching your crowbar build vids on youtube these days. Awesome work, man!

They inspired me to try a melee build next (not a STR one though, I am scared to play with low initiative).

Cool, thanks. I was thinking about linking it on Codex after I kill Tchort, but might as well post the next best thing now.

Also, has anybody ever found a taser anywhere? I want to experiment with not investing in Electronics for some builds, but I want my freaking taser. I do not think I have ever seen one other than the ones I craft.

I have never found a taser. The only NPC that actually uses one are sentry bots, but they cannot drop it. That said, taser requires minimal investment since the stun chance doesn't scale with quality at all. Only reason to make it better is for more damage and capacity, both of which are not essential.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Ah, never realized that the Stun Chance didn't scale with quality.

 

[Twiglard]

What armor types are you using for a Dodge/Evasion build? normie?

 

[CHEMS]

Tygrende, I am watching your crowbar build vids on youtube these days. Awesome work, man!

They inspired me to try a melee build next (not a STR one though, I am scared to play with low initiative).

Cool, thanks. I was thinking about linking it on Codex after I kill Tchort, but might as well post the next best thing now.

Also, has anybody ever found a taser anywhere? I want to experiment with not investing in Electronics for some builds, but I want my freaking taser. I do not think I have ever seen one other than the ones I craft.

I have never found a taser. The only NPC that actually uses one are sentry bots, but they cannot drop it. That said, taser requires minimal investment since the stun chance doesn't scale with quality at all. Only reason to make it better is for more damage and capacity, both of which are not essential.

That crowbar build is a fine exemple of what playing smart actually looks like. That naga fight was brilliant.

 

[jackofshadows]

I usually craft after the very first one tazer with decent core (up to 100q or so) and the shittiest charger I could find to minimize energy consumption.

 

[lukaszek]

umm that's why you get the lowest quality electroshock gen with the best plasma core

you should have realised!!!

on dom it can backfire, you get no stun if you dont overcome enemy electric dt

 

[Tygrende]

That crowbar build is a fine exemple of what playing smart actually looks like. That naga fight was brilliant.

Once it beats the whole game (it will), we can finally stop asking the "is x viable on DOM?" question. If crowbar is viable, anything is viable.