Game News Underworld Ascendant Released

[Invictus]

So why are you arguing retarded ideas then? Bigger budget no budget the end result is what matters; the Underworld Abomination is a complete fuckup regardless of the mismanaged budget or design issues and Hero U is a good game so stop your ranting just because you want to defend Abomination just to be edgy and shit... and now that I think about I have never seen any posts from you in the Ultima Underworld threads so that explains your lack of outrage

 

[Mustawd]

Did you try reading the posts and understanding them?

Like...I don’t know how else to communicate what I’m saying. I guess I could draw you a picture?

 

[commie]

I'm confused. Who is that guy and why are we paying attention to him?

He's a mildly popular youtuber who's butthurt about rpgcodex.

If you didn't put 'popular' I might have thought it was Fluent....

 

[Invictus]

Did you try reading the posts and understanding them?

Like...I don’t know how else to communicate what I’m saying. I guess I could draw you a picture?

Yes please do because it seems you are either such a genious you cannot explain yourself to mere mortals or you are not understanding that my point is the same in all of my posts; the Coles also had a badly managed project, had budget issues and could have done it much more efficiently and under budget but they decided to get additional revenues and not only salvaged the project but made a gane that is not only very good but well received by fans of Quest for Glory
Ultima Abomination will do neither of those

 

[Crescent Hawk]

Holy shit the game is so fucking broken.
Was it that hard to scale back and make something more than bottleg Thief?

 

[United Nations]

Did anybody really think that an Underworld could be made in the current age of decline? Just replay 1, 2 & Arx because we'll never get anything even close.

RPGs: Abandon all hope ye who game here.

Arx 2 is what we really need...

 

[Latelistener]

We need new and better games and to leave the past in the past. Those people, they're burned out a long time ago and it is the reason why they were on the outskirts of history until Kickstarter.

 

[Crescent Hawk]

Actually we ned the design sensibilities of the past, but never fucking make them in Unity.

 

[Big Wrangle]

I know scapegoating Unity is all the rage but switching to Unreal wasn't gonna fix the game.

 

[Shinji]

It reminds me of when Shroud of the Avatar was first announced.

If you look at this video (from 2013), you can see some potential for an offline Ultima game, with an overworld, towns, exploration and so on.


I think if Richard Garriott decided to do a game with a smaller scope and budget it could actually turn into something more interesting than what we have today. Heck, if it was successful, he could even do a sequel, just like with the Ultima series.

I guess these people need to keep their expectations (and ego) in check.

 

[Thonius]

Ahhaha I backed to this shit. Ahaha.

 

[DarkArcher]

It's so sad to do this type of thing half assed. I'd like to blame it on publisher pressure, but you get the sense that the scope and quality might have needed more budget. It's been obvious the game wasn't ready or even fun: https://www.pcgamer.com/underworld-ascendant-doesnt-feel-like-the-great-comeback-we-were-hoping-for/

 

[Big Wrangle]

After that preview build most sites didn't cover the game further. Would be interesting to learn about sale figures somewhere down the line. Kinda hard to make bank when nobody cares.

 

[Latelistener]

I know scapegoating Unity is all the rage but switching to Unreal wasn't gonna fix the game.

No, but a game made on Unity cannot be taken seriously when it bears a name like System Shock or Ultima Underworld. It may be sufficient for a remake or a port, but it's not what people want from a successor.

Night Dive had a good concept and they were going to use UE4. I would want to play that, but they should have made the SS remake first without trying to fuck backers.

 

[DeepOcean]

RIP Immersive sims

It was good to know you.

 

[Trans-Financial-Man]

Razorfist is fucking crazy, people here like Witcher? Seriously?
People could see the fucking glaring problems with this game from miles away, Oh I fucking wish we had another Thief but to go that far. I really dont know what is his fucking problem. Especially because he has decent taste.

Reminder that Razorfist is a contrarian that posted a video of wanking himself off. And then denied he did it. It's so nice that he made such a wonderful analogy to what he actually does in the majority of his videos.

 

[Abelian]

Ahhaha I backed to this shit. Ahaha.

Backed them at the $20 level myself. Looks like "Underworld Descendant" will descend to the lower reaches of my to play list.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Make one question how they did that. It clearly was not an easy game back then and perhaps not even easy to make it now, in the exactly same way.

It reminds me that Faery Tale Adventure was created by David Joiner in 7 months in 1986, on a new type of computer that he'd only had a few months prior experience with. Frankly, I think the programmers, designers, and artists who created classic RPGs were, in general, far more competent than the people currently working in the CRPG industry.

 

[DeepOcean]

Make one question how they did that. It clearly was not an easy game back then and perhaps not even easy to make it now, in the exactly same way.

It reminds me that Faery Tale Adventure was created by David Joiner in 7 months in 1986, on a new type of computer that he'd only had a few months prior experience with. Frankly, I think the programmers, designers, and artists who created classic RPGs were, in general, far more competent than the people currently working in the CRPG industry.

Guess there weren't standards and easy engines to create bad habits back then, so the programmers, designers and artists had to do things the hard way and hardship made them better. Easiness generates lazyness, actually, this was one of the big problems of kickstarter, when you are burning your own money, you sure are hell motivated to be as efficient as possible not so much when you are burning other people money.

 

[Zep Zepo]

Frankly, I think the programmers,

We actually had to know how to code back then. There was no internet to cut and paste from as the kids do today.

You had to learn machine language (assembler) if you didn't want your code going horribly slow.

All those old 6502 based machines only had BASIC.

Zep--

 

[Iskramor]

I swear you people are worse than that arizonian trans contrarian edgelorrd razorfist. Atleast he owns the game and dont talk things out of his ass. He is just fanboy in denial. He owns the game while kikeitron and rest of sceptics dont....

 

[Trans-Financial-Man]

I swear you people are worse than that arizonian trans contrarian edgelorrd razorfist. Atleast he owns the game and dont talk things out of his ass. He is just fanboy in denial. He owns the game while kikeitron and rest of sceptics dont....

The man barely plays a couple hours of most games. Including the ones he reviews.

 

[Abelian]

the programmers, designers and artists had to endure and in enduring grow strong

Fixed

 

[The Bishop]

Guess there weren't standards and easy engines to create bad habits back then, so the programmers, designers and artists had to do things the hard way and hardship made them better. Easiness generates lazyness, actually, this was one of the big problems of kickstarter, when you are burning your own money, you sure are hell motivated to be as efficient as possible not so much when you are burning other people money.

I keep hearing about laziness in connection with game devs, and it's just so very wrong to attribute laziness to people who are expected to work longer hours for less pay and routinely go through "crunch" periods to get their products to completion only to then be sacked right after. You can call them anything, and some of it will probably even be deserved, but lazy is not it.

These people aren't exceptionally incompetent, or lazy, or flawed in any other particularly significant way. They are just same normal imperfect people like everybody else. The difference however is that it used to be different. In the past, when computer games were only becoming a thing, it was a very novel and exciting field to work in. It was truly uncharted land of unlimited possibilities and many exceptionally talented individuals rushed in to explore it. We are spoiled by products of labor of those exceptional individuals, expecting that everything in video games should forever be able to uphold the same exceptional standard. But this is not a realistic expectation. Video games are not that exciting of a field anymore, and naturally the talented people will gravitate towards different opportunities more often these days.

 

[DeepOcean]

I swear you people are worse than that arizonian trans contrarian edgelorrd razorfist. Atleast he owns the game and dont talk things out of his ass. He is just fanboy in denial. He owns the game while kikeitron and rest of sceptics dont....

If it looks like shit, smell like shit, are you going to taste it to be sure?