World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Mikeal]

Finally clash we've been waiting for. This vs Ascendant. Whoever wins...

Spoiler

we're still loosing

 

[Delterius]

Consider: we got the french furball game, the card games, the battle royale, all the visual novels and the Orpheus game none of your ever heard of. We don't need Cara to tell us Paradox's only requirement to give away these licenses is that the studio produces vaporware.

 

[Caim]

 

[Flying Dutchman]

Tuco surprisingly missed this one, given how relevant it is:

Jesus fuck on these reviews. I noticed some on the Paradox Glassdoor company forum, but too lazy to repost.

I still need to check out the fake ones for both studios and play a guessing game of fake or not? for those.

 

[Semiurge]

Consider: we got the french furball game, the card games, the battle royale, all the visual novels and the Orpheus game none of your ever heard of. We don't need Cara to tell us Paradox's only requirement to give away these licenses is that the studio produces vaporware.

Perhaps that fluff does make more money in the end because of low production costs. What other reason could there be?

 

[Ol' Willy]

lol

 

[HansDampf]

Is there a version for Malkavians?

 

[Caim]

Is there a version for Malkavians?

Probably, but I don't recall ever seeing one.

 

[Avarize]

All portrayals of Lucifer tend to suck but the ones making him good or humanising him are the worst.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Fuck that Milton guy.

P.S. For the people reacting: in case it wasn't clear I was just being a bit sarcastic.

 

[Avarize]

Fuck that Milton guy.

Haven't really read further than the first couple pages. I much prefer prose to verse.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Old Brujah >>>>>> All.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

All portrayals of Lucifer tend to suck but the ones making him good or humanising him are the worst.

If you want that sort of black and white morality, stick to the Bible. The European literary tradition of tragedy beats Judean moralist tales.

 

[Jenkem]

the people on glassdoor are seething libtards that got fired for being shit

dismiss

 

[Nano]

Old Brujah >>>>>> All.

Anarch Toreadors are the best of both worlds.

 

[Avarize]

All portrayals of Lucifer tend to suck but the ones making him good or humanising him are the worst.

If you want that sort of black and white morality, stick to the Bible. The European literary tradition of tragedy beats Judean moralist tales.

I don't know how anyone can read the bible and call it black and white. But I wasn't actually trying to say I wish Lucifer was always portrayed as he is in the bible, there's actually very little about him in the whole book, nothing between early Genesis and the gospels. Limiting him through anthropomorphism doesn't make him more interesting. He should be something beyond human, not your woobie.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Limiting him through anthropomorphism doesn't make him more interesting. He should be something beyond human, not your woobie.

And by beyond human, do you mean the traditional portrayal of him embodying arrogance for arrogance's sake and being nothing more than a two dimensional caricature meant to parallel Christian 'mythology'? Not much that you can do with the story of the fall beyond turning it into a tragedy in the vein of the Hellenic classics, with him being 'beyond human' in the sense of the angels being portrayed as demigods (which by their very nature are anthropomorphic).

 

[Avarize]

Limiting him through anthropomorphism doesn't make him more interesting. He should be something beyond human, not your woobie.

And by beyond human, do you mean the traditional portrayal of him embodying arrogance for arrogance's sake and being nothing more than a two dimensional caricature meant to parallel Christian 'mythology'? Not much that you can do with the story of the fall beyond turning it into a tragedy in the vein of the Hellenic classics, with him being 'beyond human' in the sense of the angels being portrayed as demigods (which by their very nature are anthropomorphic).

There should be something inhuman about him, but he should also be charismatic and competent to an unnatural degree. It's one of the challenges in writing him, characters vastly more intelligent than the author are always difficult. Also, I recommend you stop talking about how he is portrayed in Christianity, so far you have demonstrated you don't know much about it and it's not even the topic at hand.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Limiting him through anthropomorphism doesn't make him more interesting. He should be something beyond human, not your woobie.

And by beyond human, do you mean the traditional portrayal of him embodying arrogance for arrogance's sake and being nothing more than a two dimensional caricature meant to parallel Christian 'mythology'? Not much that you can do with the story of the fall beyond turning it into a tragedy in the vein of the Hellenic classics, with him being 'beyond human' in the sense of the angels being portrayed as demigods (which by their very nature are anthropomorphic).

There should be something inhuman about him, but he should also be charismatic and competent to an unnatural degree. It's one of the challenges in writing him, characters vastly more intelligent than the author are always difficult.

I don't disagree with any of that, yet the ones attempting to craft such a character were particularly those such as Vondel and Milton which you reject due to them 'humanising' him.

I recommend you stop talking about how he is portrayed in Christianity, so far you have demonstrated you don't know much about it and it's not even the topic at hand.

Nice strawman. I was referring to Christian mythology (a.i. those literary works which are derivative of Christian theology, yet nonetheless complement and reinforce the latter in their moralizing portrayal of the devil) ergo my recommendation of you sticking to the Bible if you want a tale of a devil bereft of redeeming qualities which is by all means all that the character can be in lack of a nuanced portrayal which adds positive traits to an otherwise purely negative character.

 

[Semiurge]

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No, there's no bigger version of that.

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Is there a version for Malkavians?

Sort of.

 

[Delterius]

wait
waitwait

chunk has a chocolate stain??

 

[fantadomat]

Chunk is more likeable that the retard,lol nines buahahahaha what a retarded name.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Dementating Chunk in Santa-Monica near the gallery cracked me up for good for several minutes.

 

[Gordian Nutt]

Have Hardsuit or Paradox given any more news or game footage after firings a few months ago?

 

[Fedora Master]

All portrayals of Lucifer tend to suck but the ones making him good or humanising him are the worst.

Shut up, Satan is a cool dude