World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 - VTMB sequel from The Chinese Room - coming early 2025

[Vibalist]

Does it look like it's even remotely ready to drop to you?

 

[Tyranicon]

I think so - the production of this game started when there was a revival of interest in paper RPG games thanks to D&D. But now the trend is ending again, and even Hasbro is feeling it, much less other tabletop game companies.

BG3 just dropped last year and sold a bazillion copies.

Tabletop D&D is wildly popular, more than it ever has been in its history.

I'm not sure what you mean by interest dying, these are boon times my friend, and people are thirsty for more. There are literally people selling 5e anime settings on kickstarter and becoming millionaires.

I think you have an outdated and therefore slightly distorted view of the situation.

Paper RPGs are not doing as well as they used to be, and certainly not Hasbro (one of many articles: https://www.polygon.com/23728470/dnd-dungeons-dragons-6e-5e-changes) . Besides, the entire team at Wizards associated with Baldur's Gate 3 has been fired.

The success of this game is solely due to Larian.

An accident that won't happen again soon.

Wizards seem to have a branding problem and business-related issues, that's not exactly new.

That doesn't correlate to waning interest in the hobby, even D&D itself. After all, people already have the rule books and it doesn't take rocket science to build your own homebrew stuff.

I haven't seen anything that points to a lack of interest in tabletop RPGs or cRPGs. In fact, I think there's a certain market segment (including on this very forum itself) that is ravenous for competent cRPGs without modern soapboxing and made for intelligent adults.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

I think so - the production of this game started when there was a revival of interest in paper RPG games thanks to D&D. But now the trend is ending again, and even Hasbro is feeling it, much less other tabletop game companies.

BG3 just dropped last year and sold a bazillion copies.

Tabletop D&D is wildly popular, more than it ever has been in its history.

I'm not sure what you mean by interest dying, these are boon times my friend, and people are thirsty for more. There are literally people selling 5e anime settings on kickstarter and becoming millionaires.

I think you have an outdated and therefore slightly distorted view of the situation.

Paper RPGs are not doing as well as they used to be, and certainly not Hasbro (one of many articles: https://www.polygon.com/23728470/dnd-dungeons-dragons-6e-5e-changes) . Besides, the entire team at Wizards associated with Baldur's Gate 3 has been fired.

The success of this game is solely due to Larian.

An accident that won't happen again soon.

Wizards seem to have a branding problem and business-related issues, that's not exactly new.

That doesn't correlate to waning interest in the hobby, even D&D itself. After all, people already have the rule books and it doesn't take rocket science to build your own homebrew stuff.

I haven't seen anything that points to a lack of interest in tabletop RPGs or cRPGs. In fact, I think there's a certain market segment (including on this very forum itself) that is ravenous for competent cRPGs without modern soapboxing and made for intelligent adults.

I looked at it from a business perspective, which does not take into account homebrew What I meant was the relationship between one business and another. I just don't think Paradox calculates it all.

 

[sosmoflux]

 

[La vie sexuelle]

BTW, this half assed fight with maneqiuns reminded me that:

 

[Cross]

I think so - the production of this game started when there was a revival of interest in paper RPG games thanks to D&D. But now the trend is ending again, and even Hasbro is feeling it, much less other tabletop game companies. In addition, Paradox had a completely different type of problems with Onyx Path, which also made losses.

This may not only be the end of Vampire Bloodlines, but also the end of Paradox's interest in the entire brand.

The lack of RPG elements isn't the only problem with this game. I've seen better combat animations in shovelware games. The art assets look generic and sterile. Just compare the mannequins in this to the ones in Condemned, a game from 2005. Complete incompetence all around.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

I think so - the production of this game started when there was a revival of interest in paper RPG games thanks to D&D. But now the trend is ending again, and even Hasbro is feeling it, much less other tabletop game companies. In addition, Paradox had a completely different type of problems with Onyx Path, which also made losses.

This may not only be the end of Vampire Bloodlines, but also the end of Paradox's interest in the entire brand.

The lack of RPG elements isn't the only problem with this game. I've seen better combat animations in shovelware games. The art assets look generic and sterile. Just compare the mannequins in this to the ones in Condemned, a game from 2005. Complete incompetence all around.

Comment under the Vampire video:

11 minutes in, this feels neither like VtM nor like Bloodlines nor like an Action-RPG at all. It feels like a walking-simulator-type horror game with a little hand-to-hand-combat thrown in. From getting "jumpscared" (I think) by the villain to then be put back to the beginning of the area, to the (probably intended to be) "creepy" moving mannequins, to the randomly spoooky floating books and unexplained sudden voiceover to give exposition without rhyme or reason (unless Willem is talking really loudly). Also, though its just tiny details, but why are the Ghoul-illusions 1. falling into sparkles and floating triangles when dispersed as if they were friggin holograms in a sci-fi-game and 2. why are they yelling "show them some thin-blood justice"? Thin-Bloods and Ghouls aren't the same, and Willem is identified (and definitely looks like) a Nosferatu. Both just seem like details thrown in with little to no regard for the lore; which isn't exactly making me any more hopeful that the game will turn out even nearly as accurate to the world and source material as the first Bloodlines was.This gameplay reveal honestly made me wish they'd either stuck with the original developers, or just let the game die back then instead of letting us keep hoping for a good sequel to one of the best RPGs ever made. Because this ... just ain't it. In any way.Honestly, they should just change the title. Fine, advertise it as a VtM-game, but stop pretending its in any way related to the original.

 

[coldaqua]

Is there a single upcoming RPG that doesn't look like shit?

Is there a single upcoming RPG that doesn't look like shit?

Mystic Land: The Search for Maphaldo is looking great.

Thanks for the recommendations, I've wishlisted both.

Is there a single upcoming RPG that doesn't look like shit?

No. Rogue Trader is already out.

I've heard good things about Rogue Trader but Owlcat have really buggy releases. I'll wait for the inevitable enhanced edition with all bugfixes.

 

[Herumor]

Is there a single upcoming RPG that doesn't look like shit?

The Necromancer's Tale

It's over:

Just you wait, Outstar's gonna fire up her shill account anytime now.

 

[Ryzer]

Here is a prediction: despite how bad it's going to be, it's going to sell like hotcakes on release and then people will complain how bad it is but will have hope of future updates (tm) to improve the game.

Update this post on occasion but you know it, it's what is going to happen 100%.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Here is a prediction: despite how bad it's going to be, it's going to sell like hotcakes on release and then people will complain how bad it is but will have hope of future updates (tm) to improve the game.

Update this post on occasion but you know it, it's what is going to happen 100%.

Look at the comments under the videos that Infi posted. And now to some portal. And now on Reditt.

Nobody loves this game.

Your dreams are false, Russian Man.

 

[Tao]

Oof... It was worse than i expected. Even the HSL version looked better.

Where is the RPG part in any of this?
The Dishonored vibe is not bad but it didn't hit the mark. Not even close.

 

[Ryzer]

Here is a prediction: despite how bad it's going to be, it's going to sell like hotcakes on release and then people will complain how bad it is but will have hope of future updates (tm) to improve the game.

Update this post on occasion but you know it, it's what is going to happen 100%.

Look at the comments under the videos that Infi posted. And now to some portal. And now on Reditt.

Nobody loves this game.

Your dreams are false, Russian Man.

Reddit is not reality, the game is in top wishlist, just like Cyberpunk despite how bad it was on release, sold extremely well.

People will cope with the constant updating and pretend it will be okay.

 

[Tyranicon]

HSL and Mitsoda must feel so vindicated by this.

Whatever fuck up happened behind closed doors will probably stay a mystery, and most people don't really care either way.

TCR is going to take a lot of flak for sinking VtMB's chance at a true sequel, and it's not entirely fair on them. But life is rarely fair.

The large wishlist amount was clearly generated during HSL's run, and will only broadcast how big of a failure this game will be. Whoever said this is like Forspoken is right on the money.

Like, they named the PC Phyre. It's like a kid in middle school who wants to get bullied.

 

[Vibalist]

This is a sequel to a game that sold so poorly the developers had to close, which is right now being derided by the majority of the small amount of people who did buy the original. That it will sell well is a pretty bold prediction. Even if the gameplay trailer had looked like the best thing since, well, Bloodlines 1, it's doubtful sales would turn out to be more than modest.

 

[Tao]

Btw the Nosferatu scream was one of the most beta scream i heard in my life in a supposed man. Not even my ex was that cringed when she yelled at me. The guy looked like someone was trying to rape him or something...

 

[Tyranicon]

Btw the Nosferatu scream was one of the most beta scream i heard in my life in a suposed man. Not even my ex was that cringed when she yelled at me. The guy looked like some was trying to rape him or something...

Courtesy of the news thread:

what discipline is this?

 

[Vibalist]

It's the dorito breath discipline. Even elder vampires go into a state of hallucinatory delirium when attacked by it.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Here is a prediction: despite how bad it's going to be, it's going to sell like hotcakes on release and then people will complain how bad it is but will have hope of future updates (tm) to improve the game.

Update this post on occasion but you know it, it's what is going to happen 100%.

Look at the comments under the videos that Infi posted. And now to some portal. And now on Reditt.

Nobody loves this game.

Your dreams are false, Russian Man.

Reddit is not reality, the game is in top wishlist, just like Cyberpunk despite how bad it was on release, sold extremely well.

People will cope with the constant updating and pretend it will be okay.

That I meant was that if Reddit doesn't love this game, I don't think anyone will.

 

[Jenkem]

WOW! This looks even better than AVOWED!

 

[Skinwalker]

I would honestly be 90% less bothered about this game sucking ass if, instead of "VtM: Bloodlines 2", it was called something like "VtM: Redeadening". Replace Redeadening with literally any word in the English language other than "Bloodlines" or "Redemption".

Just don't pretend that the Machine for Pigs with shitty combat has anything to do with Troika's unfinished masterpiece.

Stop it. Get some help.

 

[karoliner]

 

[Deadass]

Stop disliking my favorite vampire unarmed game!

 

[Vibalist]

Speaking of similarities between this game and Dishonored, anyone notice how much Phyre looks like Emily Kaldwin?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Where's Jenkem by the way?