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The_scorpion

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call me un-edgy and everything, but a single non-retarded women in fiction wouldn't hurt. (doesn't mean she can't be hot, really)
 

SCO

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Not a cause. A contributing factor. I edited out the second statement because it seemed too strong, but i still think it is a contributing factor.
 

Kane

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call me un-edgy and everything, but a single non-retarded women in fiction wouldn't hurt. (doesn't mean she can't be hot, really)

Lara Croft wouldn't fit that description? Beats the shit out of evil nazis indiana jones style and is hot.

global agenda: http://www.lorehound.com/wp-content...girls_of_gaming_globalagenda_femme_fatale.jpg

m&b warband: http://www.reviewboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/512cUZ44YXL__SL500_AA300_.jpg

and i could go on. as i said, the real problem is that the characters overall are lacking, but that's true for both female and male characters.
 

Johannes

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As for the portraits, i wonder what would your reaction be to all the male ones having prominent dick bulges and maybe a testicle peeking out.

I don't care. You have to understand that boobs are more aesthetically pleasing than hairy testicles, though and that's why they are put in. My dick is fucking ugly. This is by the way not some indoctrinated social code maintained by the mysoginist patriarchy. Even the oldest cultures found tits&ass to be so important that they literally worshipped them. Humans like tits. It's that simple.
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Though the balls have no hair on them, I'll give you that
 

Oriebam

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huh, I didn't know the word "triphallic" existed

at least we have a name in case someone draws up a new MHD emoticon
 

Sukeban Cho

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Your definition of humanity seems to exclude anyone who isn't a heterosexual male but if you say so.

Then change the wording to all men wanting T&A while all of us want chocolate abs, broad backs, well toned arms and legs, and the like instead.

Exhibit B: Nice Abs sell. Well, I never.



What's so bad about it? One guy likes your T&A, as well as your legs and your nice, soft yet firm, abs and you like his chocolate abs, broad shoulders, well toned arms and legs, his nice butt, and more. Then sex happens and everyone's happy, oh my! How do they dare have fun and be happy! They should be thinking about -the struggle-! (of ugly girls and ugly guys no one wants to have relationships with facing off against the fun everyone else is having, I mean)

I would dare say you and other delusional feminists are oppressing us as much as the evil patriarchy: We are not all fucking virgins ignorant of pride, sexual desires, and objectification. Yet that's exactly how you paint us, and that's exactly how you expect us to be behind the mask "the patriarchy" has forced upon us.

I am very sorry to inform you most of us want to sleep around, have fun, get the hot guy with the nice bod to walk him like a pet in front of all our friends, spend four hours a day in the gym and then dress like a slut a Kpop idol to show around the results, etc, instead. *shrug*
 
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I was waiting for it to happen :D . *grabs popcorn*

I don't care. You have to understand that boobs are more aesthetically pleasing than hairy testicles, though and that's why they are put in. My dick is fucking ugly.
Maybe it's because it's too small :D ?
 

kaizoku

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I'd support more characters onscreen sporting hardons during combat. Is it too much of a stretch to call no homo after saying that?
So this is why you insist on making your own engine... I see. Everything is clear now.
 

Oriebam

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I am very sorry to inform you most of us want to sleep around, have fun, get the hot guy with the nice bod to walk him like a pet in front of all our friends, spend four hours a day in the gym and then dress like a slut a Kpop idol to show around the results, etc, instead. *shrug*
So, "women" of the codex, do you agree?


















seriously, I can guess your answer but I want to see you justify "most"
 

communard

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This thread gave me cancer. The doctors say I have weeks to live, I'm going to spend what time I have left masturbating to rape porn and writing essays on the evils of objectifying women. You're all fucking retarded and I hope that you'll get put against a wall and shot when the Revolution finally rolls around.
 

Sukeban Cho

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seriously, I can guess your answer but I want to see you justify "most"

First, you have Kpop male idol groups. They are built from the ground up as nothing but part of a huge marketing machine focused on nothing but making young girls get their hormones in a turbulence and start fangirling their oppas to the point of obsession so they invest small fortunes on buying merchandise. How do they do that? Emotional exploitation, soft fetishes, and good looking boys with nice bods they show around a lot.

Male idols and female idols are an industry worth thousands of millions, and probably Korea's only export worthy of mention (japan does that too, but they don't focus a great deal of national attention in exporting it).

Just check that video up there on my previous post for the kind of "totally not sexual objectification" on it.

Second, you have the Otome industry in Japan. What's the entire point of it? To make C&C games for teen girls, young adults, and creepy aunts with the main focus being on hot guys designed to satisfy girls' emotional needs, weird fetishes, or sexual frustrations. To make the point even more funny, in Otome parlance to finish a guy's route while unlocking the better ending scenario is called "capturing" that guy, and most Otome gaming girls gotta catch 'em all.

Exhibit C: Red riding hood alone in the forest, surrounded by hot beastly men with furry ears.



Hint: She's not leaving a virgin.

If I post all those "from the top o' my head" we are going to be here until the end of the world.

Third, watch any current "teen" or "young adult" TV Show targetted either equally at boys and girls, or with a focus on girls as a target demographic. What are you going to see?

Exhibit D1: Fucking Damon, man.

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Why would put hot shirtless guys with nice bods in a TV Show like The Vampire Diaries, targetted entirely to girls, other than because they like it? Those shows have no artistic or conceptual integrity at all beyond "Hot vampires, emotional pornography, and teen drama sell a fuckin' lot."

Do you want to laugh a little bit? The next one is the result of actually writing "Damon Vampire Diaries" in Google Images, check the rightmost related search topic.

Exhibit D2: We have all done so at least once. :oops:

damonsearchlol.JPG

Which is understandable given he's bloody hot. He can bite the fuck out of me whenever he wants. IN BED.

What was I posting about again? Gee, let me check.

Fourth, Yaoi. Is it targetted at male homosexuals? Nope. While they don't mind if male homosexuals buy it (and some love it), many of them actually dislike Yaoi (I guess for the same ideological reasons many lesbians hate Yuri, yet straight guys, and both some bi girls and lesbian girls, do enjoy it). It is targetted at girls, because they enjoy hot guys with hot bods fucking each other up the backdoor. For those too young to buy games about guys finding true love (fo' penis) in jail they make romantic games where hot guys totally do not want each other and thus are full of scenes of totally not implied sex where they are naked together in bed (with chocolate abs, of course).

It is actually so prevalent it came to the west in full force, to the point Yaoi Fangirls...

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... are their own genre of internet bad jokes.

I could keep going but my fingers hurt. I may add more later if I feel like it.



Edit: Removed the fifth point because I felt like it.
 

Oriebam

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I'll read this later, got to remember to mention you don't need to write gigantic text walls like that next time I talk to you, it makes me feel bad (actually it doesn't but this shit isn't right)

that really sounds sufficient, no need to edit more stuff in
 

Oriebam

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The Kanamara Matsuri is centered around a local penis-venerating shrine once popular among prostitutes who wished to pray for protection from sexually transmitted diseases. It is said that there are also divine protections for business prosperity and for the clan's prosperity; and for easy delivery, marriage, and married-couple harmony.
oh shit :lol:

Today, the festival has become something of a tourist attraction and is used to raise money for HIV research.
:hmmm:
 

Sceptic

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The decline and commercialization of suchdeep-rooted cultural festivals is painful to watch.
 

sgc_meltdown

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drukpa_Kunley
http://www.keithdowman.net/books/dm.htm
Kunga Legpai Zangpo (1455 - 1529), was also known by other names such as Drukpa Kunley, Drukpa Kunleg and "The Divine Madman of the Dragon Lineage".
The Tantric Buddhist Master Drukpa Kunley is one of Tibet's foremost saints and yogis and the patron saint of Bhutan. He belongs to the Drukpa (Dragon) school of Tibetan Buddhism established by Tilopa, Naropa, Marpa and Milarepa. Well known to common Tibetans through the oral tradition of legends and songs, as well as to scholars and mystics through his biographies, he is greatly loved by all the people of Tibet as an enlightened master and an exponent of 'crazy wisdom'. He taught through outrageous behavior and ribald humor in order to awaken the people he met to a higher awareness free from conventional morality and self-obsession. In particular he took his female friends and disciples along the path of sexual desire and relationship to free them from attachment to the illusory world and to awaken their buddha-nature.
:mhd: :thumbsup:
Drukpa Kunley's anecdotes are ribald beyond belief. Wherever he went he carried his 'divine thunderbolt of wisdom' (his penis) before him. It penetrated the mysteries of life as it did willing virgins. The bawdy tales of fornication and copious intake of chung wine are interspersed with words of wisdom, advice on how to square one's karma, escape the vicious circle of samsara (birth, death and rebirth) and attain nirvana. The god-fearing but high-living Lama Drukpa Kunley sums up his philosophy: "The best chung wine lies at the bottom of the pail / And Happiness lies below the navel."
:obviously:
Converting Demons with his Thunderbolt

The Lama Kunga Legpa decided to go to bind the Demon of Wong Gomsarkha (in the Thimphu district), who was threatening to exterminate the people of that area. From an inaccessible hiding place high up the valley, this venomous Serpent Demon had terrorize the inhabitants living on the terraces by the river, carrying them off at night, until only one old woman remained. Kunley entered the demon's territory and lay down using his bow and arrows and long sword as a pillow; he placed a pot of tsampa beside him, sucked in his stomach, smeared tsampa on his behind, and gave himself an erection. Lying on his back, he relaxed and awaited the demon, who was not long in coming.

'Adzi! Adzi! exclaimed the demon. 'What is this? I have never seen anything like it! But perhaps it's edible.' He called loudly to his Elemental Slaves, who immediately descended upon the area in inconceivable numbers like flies on rotten meat. Some of them thought the body was dead, and others thought it was still living.

'We had better not eat it if we don't know what it is,' said the Phuya Fiend. 'The body is warm, so it cannot be dead; it isn't breathing, so it is not alive; there's tsampa in that pot, so it can't have died of starvation; its belly is empty, so it couldn't have died of over-eating; there are weapons under its head, so it's unlikely it died of fear; its penis is still erect, so it must have been alive recently; it has worms in its anus, so it couldn't have died today. Whatever it is, it looks unhealthy for us. We should leave it alone.'
'Whatever we do,' said the Serpent Demon, 'we should eat the old woman today. Let's meet at her door at nightfall.' Agreeing upon this plan, they dispersed.

The Lama arose and went straight to the old woman's house. 'How are you, old lady?' he greeted her.
'You are welcome,' she replied, 'but I am desperate,'
'What's the matter?' the Lama consoled her. 'Tell me about it.'
'Once I was wealthy,' she told him, 'but since no Buddha or Adept has ever set foot in this poor outlandish valley, the demons have run amuck and devoured both men and cattle. I myself do not expect to live through this coming night. You are a holy man and need not stay here. Go away while you can or you will be eaten alive. Tomorrow, if I am not here, you can take anything of value from the house to support yourself or to distribute amongst the poor.' Thus she made her will.

'Things aren't as bad as they seem,' the Lama told her. 'I will stay with you here tonight.
'Do you have any chung?'
'I had a little but the petty gods and demons stole the moisture,' she replied. 'I don't know whether there is any taste remaining in the grain.'
'Bring the grain and I'll see,' he said.

He was drinking when night fell and the demons arrived at the door. When they began pounding upon it the old woman began screaming in paroxysms of fear.
'You stay up here,' the Lama directed. 'I'll take care of this.'

Down below, he took his erect penis in his hand and thrust it through the hole in the door which was big enough to take a fist, and as a Flaming Thunderbolt of Wisdom it rammed into the Serpent Demon's gaping red mouth knocking out four teeth above and four teeth below.

'Something hit me in the mouth!' screamed the demon wildly, and fled down the terraces of the river valley until he came to the cave called Lion Victory-Banner, where a nun called Lotus Samadhi was sitting deep in meditation. 'Naljorpa! Something weird hit me in the mouth,' he stormed breathlessly.

'Well, what was it, and where did it come from?' she enquired.
'It was at the old woman of Gomsarkha's house. A strange man who was neither a layman nor a monk hit me with a flaming iron hammer,' panted the demon.
'You have been hit by a magical device,' the nun told him. 'That kind of wound never heals. If you doubt me look at this.' She raised her skirt and opened her legs. 'This wound was caused by the same weapon. There is no way to heal it.'
The demon put his finger to it and raised it to his nose. 'Akha! kha! This wound has gone putrid, and I suppose mine will go the same way,' he moaned. 'What should I do?'
'Listen to me and 1 will tell you,' the nun told him. 'Go back to the man who hit you. He will still be there. His name is Drukpa Kunley. Offer him your life, and vow never to harm living creatures again. Then perhaps you may be cured.'

The demon took this advice, and returned to the house where the Lama awaited him. He prostrated before the Lama, and said, 'I am yours to command. I offer you my life.'
The Lama placed his Thunderbolt upon the demon's head and ordained him as a layman, binding him with the lesser vows.' He gave him the name Ox-Devil, and invested him as a Reality Protector. Even today he is the Master of Gomsakha, and offering' is still made to him.

Ascending from the Lhangtso river valley, the Lama saw the terrifying form of the Lhadzong Demoness approaching him dressed in absurd, unconventional clothing. He immediately erected his Flaming Thunderbolt of Wisdom in the sky and she, unable to bear the sight of that magical tower, changed herself into a Venomous Serpent. The Lama stepped upon her head and the creature was petrified. It can still be seen today in the middle of the main road.
:bravo: :bravo: :bravo:
 

Oriebam

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in the interest of politeness I'm going to say I was hoping for another kind of answer and what she said was what I expected... I wasn't expecting such a rich explanation, though, which makes me feel bad for not having left some warning, but she probably enjoys writing this shit anyway
 

Menckenstein

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It was a bad idea reading this thread while having to poop really bad.
 

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