Star Wars Was KOTOR even worth a play?

[BosanskiSeljak]

The quest on Korriban when you're trying to get into the Sith Academy and you take Jolee who acts as your slave is some great banter. Actually, Jolee & Canderous were great through the entire planet.

 

[almondblight]

I remember Korriban in general being pretty decently designed. Wasn't there a bunch of different ways you could remove your Sith rivals, from assassinating them to convincing them the Sith was evil and they should leave? And the different tombs were all designed in different ways, so they weren't just simple combat fests? I think one had something involving puzzles, another had one where you had to control how much sound you generated, etc.

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

The quest on Korriban when you're trying to get into the Sith Academy and you take Jolee who acts as your slave is some great banter. Actually, Jolee & Canderous were great through the entire planet.

Jolee has a lot of really funny banter but the slave bit is probably the funniest. If that kotor remake ever happens I won't doubt that part gets removed.

The game has a lot of memorable dialogue to me. If you go evil at the Rakatan temple Bastilla's dialogue is hilariously evil. "Shut up old man." "Flay her skin from her body."

 

[Sweeper]

Done with the game.

Absolute fucking garbage. I feel embarrassed for anyone who holds KOTOR 2 in high regard and is out of high school.
>Avellone's self insert
>Bitter, gay gnostic woman
>Sawyer's self insert
>Genocidal Christian man
I never thought I'd say this but Sawyer > Avellone.

 

[Dark Souls II]

Ah yes, Soy Wars, a series of culture-fodder for the goyim that gained popularity among the global goycattle in the 2nd half of the XXth century.

The main trope of this cultural fodder is the ressentment that magical jews (literally called judah or "jedi" ) harbor because of the fact that White people dare to have their own country (literally called "the Empire" how inventive also holy shit these jewish niggers are still upset about the fact Rome destroyed their fake temple... get a new hobby it's been 1900+ years). These jedi jews are friends with literal niggers as well as with nigger-codded space apes and gay robots. This is how "wokeness" was born.

Oh and in the "prequel trilogy", the main plot point is not so much the fact that white men want to have their own country, but that a promising young man wants to fuck TEEN PUSSY (yes I know Natalie Portman was 20 while filming Attack of the Clones but she was teen-coded). But the jews want to stop him from fucking the TEEN PUSSY because that's bad! Sorry Anakin Hitler, you cannot marry a young girl of your own race and have a lot of healthy babies because that would be against jewish jedi morals and shiet!

Get it, dumb goy? Don't ever fuck teen pussy to make more Aryans, and do not ever ever ever try to get your own country! That's bad!

And yet, some dumb goy will ask whether this or that product in the Soy War franchise was "worth" consuming? Truly the West has fallen.

 

[Necrensha]

Somebody is trying reallyyyyyy hard.

 

[Bulo]

Throwing around the word "Aryan" like he doesn't have brown nipples

 

[Camel]

Kotor is mainly for star wars fans. It's not a great game on its own merits but it captures the star wars atmosphere very well. Main story is decent. Some really good characters and side quests. The one that really sticks out in my mind is the Jolee side quest on Manaan where you act as the investigator/defender of Jolee's buddy who's locked up for killing a sith. Extremely well written quest

Yeah, it is one of the better quests in the game.

IIRC if you kill Juhani instead of turning her back to the Light side, her female friend(implied lover?) leaves the Jedi, joins the Sith academy and attacks you there. The SW Romeo and Juliet is the most memorable for me and has quite a lot of permutations.

 

[NecroLord]

Kotor is mainly for star wars fans. It's not a great game on its own merits but it captures the star wars atmosphere very well. Main story is decent. Some really good characters and side quests. The one that really sticks out in my mind is the Jolee side quest on Manaan where you act as the investigator/defender of Jolee's buddy who's locked up for killing a sith. Extremely well written quest

Yeah, it is one of the better quests in the game.

IIRC if you kill Juhani instead of turning her back to the Light side, her female friend(implied lover?) leaves the Jedi, joins the Sith academy and attacks you there. The SW Romeo and Juliet is the most memorable for me and has quite a lot of permutations.

Too bad she's a pushover.
Also the Sith students are nothing more than a bunch of thugs.
They give all Sith a bad name.

 

[Meatbag]

I enjoyed both games. Kotor 1 is fun and achieves what it sets out to do pretty well. The writing is above par for the time and the combat is serviceable if you have buy-in for the real-time/turn-based system. Characters are decent and the dialogue exceeds that of the films, even if the voice-acting is questionable.

Kotor 2 is better than the 1st in almost every reguard. It's only real failing is that it doesn't stick the landing/ending - even with the restored content mod, it's still dog shit. But honestly that never really bothered me much. I treat Malacore V as more of an epilogue to Telos and Nihilus. Other than that I love the game, especially when it reaches the crescendo of the Sith tomb on Dxun and storming the palace on Onderon. I also think the characters are really solid and like the way that they carry over HK, T3 and Mandalore from the first game.

The mechanics for both games are pretty clunky for today's standards but its worth a go if you're not too sensitive to that kind of thing.

Obviously I'm biased though. I just really love HK

 

[NecroLord]

I enjoyed both games. Kotor 1 is fun and achieves what it sets out to do pretty well. The writing is above par for the time and the combat is serviceable if you have buy-in for the real-time/turn-based system. Characters are decent and the dialogue exceeds that of the films, even if the voice-acting is questionable.

Kotor 2 is better than the 1st in almost every reguard. It's only real failing is that it doesn't stick the landing/ending - even with the restored content mod, it's still dog shit. But honestly that never really bothered me much. I treat Malacore V as more of an epilogue to Telos and Nihilus. Other than that I love the game, especially when it reaches the crescendo of the Sith tomb on Dxun and storming the palace on Onderon. I also think the characters are really solid and like the way that they carry over HK, T3 and Mandalore from the first game.

The mechanics for both games are pretty clunky for today's standards but its worth a go if you're not too sensitive to that kind of thing.

Obviously I'm biased though. I just really love HK

The combat in both games could've used some more work.

 

[Meatbag]

Yeah but you gotta look at it in the context of the time. What other games of that era pulled off real-time/turn based combat better than Kotor. It's such a trick system thats bound to be janky even with today's tools.

Personally I prefer straight turn based and would love a Kotor game with combat similar to DOS2

 

[NecroLord]

Yeah but you gotta look at it in the context of the time. What other games of that era pulled off real-time/turn based combat better than Kotor. It's such a trick system thats bound to be janky even with today's tools.

Personally I prefer straight turn based and would love a Kotor game with combat similar to DOS2

TOEE combat system, since KOTOR itself is based on the 3.5 D&D ruleset.
Turn based would've been better.

 

[Meatbag]

Never played it. I will check it out - thanks for the recommendation!

Yeah but you gotta look at it in the context of the time. What other games of that era pulled off real-time/turn based combat better than Kotor. It's such a trick system thats bound to be janky even with today's tools.

Personally I prefer straight turn based and would love a Kotor game with combat similar to DOS2

TOEE combat system, since KOTOR itself is based on the 3.5 D&D ruleset.
Turn based would've been better.

 

[JarlFrank]

real-time/turn based combat

It's called RTwP bro
There's nothing turn based about it

 

[Sweeper]

There's nothing turn based about it

Well, technically KoTOR is turn based, it's just that the turns play out in real time.
Real time turn based combat or RTwTB, as I call it.

 

[Cohesion]

I enjoyed both games. Kotor 1 is fun and achieves what it sets out to do pretty well. The writing is above par for the time and the combat is serviceable if you have buy-in for the real-time/turn-based system. Characters are decent and the dialogue exceeds that of the films, even if the voice-acting is questionable.

Kotor 2 is better than the 1st in almost every reguard. It's only real failing is that it doesn't stick the landing/ending - even with the restored content mod, it's still dog shit. But honestly that never really bothered me much. I treat Malacore V as more of an epilogue to Telos and Nihilus. Other than that I love the game, especially when it reaches the crescendo of the Sith tomb on Dxun and storming the palace on Onderon. I also think the characters are really solid and like the way that they carry over HK, T3 and Mandalore from the first game.

The mechanics for both games are pretty clunky for today's standards but its worth a go if you're not too sensitive to that kind of thing.

Obviously I'm biased though. I just really love HK

Harthwain

 

[JarlFrank]

There's nothing turn based about it

Well, technically KoTOR is turn based, it's just that the turns play out in real time.
Real time turn based combat or RTwTB, as I call it.

If the "turns" play out in real time it's not turn based, it's just real time using the same action economy as the turn based tabletop system it's based on.

 

[Sweeper]

There's nothing turn based about it

Well, technically KoTOR is turn based, it's just that the turns play out in real time.
Real time turn based combat or RTwTB, as I call it.

If the "turns" play out in real time it's not turn based, it's just real time using the same action economy as the turn based tabletop system it's based on.

Yes. But there are turns. It's still turn based.

 

[Butter]

Pretty sure it's just 6 second rounds like the IE games.

 

[Meatbag]

real-time/turn based combat

It's called RTwP bro
There's nothing turn based about it

Besides the turns?

 

[Sweeper]

Pretty sure it's just 6 second rounds like the IE games.

Quite right. The PC gets a 6 second turn, followed by the NPCs getting a 6 second turn.
It's turn based.

 

[JarlFrank]

Pretty sure it's just 6 second rounds like the IE games.

Quite right. The PC gets a 6 second turn, followed by the NPCs getting a 6 second turn.
It's turn based.

Followed? There's no turn order here, the "turns" happen simultaneously, it's just that every action takes exactly 6 seconds.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Pretty sure it's just 6 second rounds like the IE games.

Quite right. The PC gets a 6 second turn, followed by the NPCs getting a 6 second turn.
It's turn based.

Followed? There's no turn order here, the "turns" happen simultaneously, it's just that every action takes exactly 6 seconds.

Neither turn nor based.

 

[Bulo]

KotOR is based.