Game News Wasteland 2 Kickstarter Update #36: Stats, Skills and Screenshots

[shihonage]

When it comes to breaking doors, being fat and heavy is all that matters. House wrecking balls don't have muscle strength.

 

[Declinator]

Instead I am certain that the door will stay there unscathed, only imbeciles believe that bodybuilders are not only strong but superstrong, are you twelve years old?

Sure, maybe the primary goal of bodybuilding isn't strength, but bodybuilders such as shown in the picture are much stronger than the average person, and they do use weight progression for hypertrophy. Didn't you know Arnold competed in powerlifting and his godfather Franco Columbu was the winner of several strongman competitions? Also have you heard of Stan Efferding? He currently holds the all-time raw world powerlifting records in the 275-pound-class in the Total with and without knee wraps (/w 2,303 lbs; w/o 2,226.6 lbs) and in the Squat without knee wraps (854 lbs).

So your disdain for bodybuilders doesn't mean they aren't much stronger than you.

It's quite a leap to say that Kz3r0 has "disdain for bodybuilders" based on what he said.

Breaking a door down doesn't have all that much to do with strength anyway and more to do with body mass and kicking technique. Even a bodybuilder would probably just dislocate his shoulder with the old shoulder-to-the-door method and his effectiveness would probably be the same as a fat person of equivalent weight trying it. Upper body strength is most likely completely useless in breaking down doors unless you are using a battering ram.

 

[Lhynn]

It's quite a leap to say that Kz3r0 has "disdain for bodybuilders" based on what he said.
Breaking a door down doesn't have all that much to do with strength anyway and more to do with body mass and kicking technique. Even a bodybuilder would probably just dislocate his shoulder with the old shoulder-to-the-door method and his effectiveness would probably be the same as a fat person of equivalent weight trying it. Upper body strength is most likely completely useless in breaking down doors unless you are using a battering ram.

As long as youve got a teammate, youll always have a serviceable battering ram.

 

[Behelit]

Anyone ever watch human wrecking balls?

 

[toro]

Anyone watch some retards lately?

Fxed.

 

[funkadelik]

Bros I am nowhere near as strong as Arnie, yet I have busted down many doors with only my brute force. It is not hard, and definitely not really a skill.

 

[Lhynn]

Bros I am nowhere near as strong as Arnie, yet I have busted down many doors with only my brute force. It is not hard, and definitely not really a skill.

Depends on the door.

 

[drae]

Bros I am nowhere near as strong as Arnie, yet I have busted down many doors with only my brute force. It is not hard, and definitely not really a skill.

Depends on the door.

It also depends on the locks, and how the locks are secured to the frame/door. Mythbusters did an episode about it a while back

Is it possible for a medium-to-large build man to bust through a wooden doorframe on his own power?

plausible

Using only his shoulder, Jamie was able to break through three of the four locks installed on the doorframe the Build Team constructed that met the American Building Code standards. The only reason the fourth lock did not break was because the Build Team used stronger screws to anchor it into the frame than what came with the actual lock. Adam attempted to break the fourth lock but slipped on a mat in front of the door and fell on his back instead. Still, considering that Jamie got so far by simply shoulder-ramming, a determined individual could easily break through.

 

[Xeon]

Yea, I agree with that.

Once I was stuck outside and couldn't really find a way in to my apartment and decided to see if I can break the door and it was pretty easy. But when I tried that a few years later on a different lock I couldn't and I only ended up hurting my shoulder.

 

[Grotesque]

Yea, I agree with that.

Once I was stuck outside and couldn't really find a way in to my apartment and decided to see if I can break the door and it was pretty easy. But when I tried that a few years later on a different lock I couldn't and I only ended up hurting my shoulder.

Here we have a perfect example that being strong its not enough to break a door if you do not have the technique and the fuckin' knowledge.
rule number 1: never use your shoulder when taking down doors

 

[Behelit]

Yea, I agree with that.

Once I was stuck outside and couldn't really find a way in to my apartment and decided to see if I can break the door and it was pretty easy. But when I tried that a few years later on a different lock I couldn't and I only ended up hurting my shoulder.

Here we have a perfect example that being strong its not enough to break a door if you do not have the technique and the fuckin' knowledge.
rule number 1: never use your shoulder when taking down doors

Real talk.

 

[Grotesque]

Hey Brother None!

Check out his new skill idea!


<<Defining Toughness
Men in particular often confuse toughness with strength, thinking that being strong is automatically the same as being tough, when in fact the two are distinct qualities. As Erwan Le Corre, founder of MovNat, says, “Some people with great muscular strength may lack toughness and easily crumble when circumstances become too challenging. On the other hand, some people with no particularly great muscular strength may be very tough, i.e., capable of overcoming stressful, difficult situations or environments.>>

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/10/03/you-may-be-strong-but-are-you-tough/

 

[Severian Silk]

There should be a Troll skill in honor of the Codex.

 

[A user named cat]

Farting around in Photoshop again.

 

[Jim the Dinosaur]

bit too sleak.

When it comes to breaking doors, being fat and heavy is all that matters. House wrecking balls don't have muscle strength.

Except the only application of the brute force skill we've seen so far involved pushing a cart out of a ditch. Somehow I'm guessing that doesn't involve being fat.

But like Infinitron pointed out, these skills have nothing to do with making sense in the first place (like say, having multiple people push the cart), so this discussion is completely pointless.

 

[Xeon]

Grotesque & Behelit: Thank you

Edit:
Aren't fat guys strong? I don't mean chubbies I mean fat people with arms as big as someone's thigh or torso for example. I am not sure if the latter can even walk.

 

[Crooked Bee]

The fax paper is absolutely awful but other than that the UI is fine. Whatever though, as long as the game's good.

 

[undecaf]

Farting around in Photoshop again.

It's really tidy, but it looks like a stylish Winamp skin.

 

[Rake]

Farting around in Photoshop again.

I like that is one unified piece, but it looks too sleak, modern. If you could put rust, dirt etc. on it it would be better.

 

[Infinitron]

Phantasmal Better! I'm not sure making it grimier would be an improvement, either.

 

[A user named cat]

Any better? Added rust, crust, cracks and all that.

 

[felipepepe]

I won't deny, it does look good, but the usability of both yours and the official one are mostly the same, so it became only a point of personal taste now, not "OMG, THIS SUCKS!".

 

[Rake]

Any better? Added rust, crust, cracks and all that.

 

[A user named cat]

I won't deny, it does look good, but the usability of both yours and the official one are mostly the same, so it became only a point of personal taste now, not "OMG, THIS SUCKS!".

Yes they'd both function the same and it's all preference but I hate the look of segmented elements and buttons just randomly popamoling around the edges. It just comes off as lazy, uninspired, derp-gen pandering and requires less work for graphic artists. I don't care about seeing more of the bottom of the screen - give me a solid, themed and connected UI any day.

 

[Rake]

I won't deny, it does look good, but the usability of both yours and the official one are mostly the same, so it became only a point of personal taste now, not "OMG, THIS SUCKS!".

Yes they'd both function the same and it's all preference but I hate the look of segmented elements and buttons just randomly popamoling around the edges. It just comes off as lazy, uninspired, derp-gen pandering and requires less work for graphic artists. I don't care about seeing more of the bottom of the screen - give me a solid, themed and connected UI any day.