But that's the point, how do you decide if a game is #9 or #11 on your list? It's extremely hard and can change day by day...FFS, I instantly put forward a top 20. Then I hem and haw and cut down 5. Then I wriggle, glare, giving it the hairy eyeballs, and finally cut down 5 more for top 10, a very unreasonable selection.Top 10 are hard to do.
But that's the point, how do you decide if a game is #9 or #11 on your list? It's extremely hard and can change day by day...FFS, I instantly put forward a top 20. Then I hem and haw and cut down 5. Then I wriggle, glare, giving it the hairy eyeballs, and finally cut down 5 more for top 10, a very unreasonable selection.Top 10 are hard to do.
Not to mention that any such grading always has a subjective factor attached to it, so whatever rank you might give it is closely tied to that particular point in your life.But that's the point, how do you decide if a game is #9 or #11 on your list? It's extremely hard and can change day by day...FFS, I instantly put forward a top 20. Then I hem and haw and cut down 5. Then I wriggle, glare, giving it the hairy eyeballs, and finally cut down 5 more for top 10, a very unreasonable selection.Top 10 are hard to do.
you guys may be overthinking this, it's not like your life depends on the perfect top 10
Top 10s are serious business on the Codex. The content of yours will determine whether or not your future opinions will be discarded or not.you guys may be overthinking this, it's not like your life depends on the perfect top 10
This is true. Anyone that has no Wizardry in his top 10 already has his opinion discarded.The content of yours will determine whether or not your future opinions will be discarded or not.
Twitcher 3 in top-10 - iggy bin. This way?The content of yours will determine whether or not your future opinions will be discarded or not.
In no particular order:
Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions
Mask of the Betrayer
BG2
BG
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Dark Souls
SW: KotOR
Xenoblade Chronicles
Dragon Quest VIII
The Witcher 3 (except for the fact that in the main story they ruined Geralt, basically making him a baby sitter!)
Dragon Quest XI (the story is great, the gameplay and characters less so)
Dragon's Dogma (the gameplay is great, the story and the characters less so)
Pathfinder: Kingmaker (would have been better without the kingdom management system)
Radiant Hystoria: Perfect Chronology (story and characters are great, the gameplay (fighting) less so)
SW: KotOR 2 (has some interesting parts, like the ability to influence followers, but there are many problems, like the existence of G0t0, the loss of the manichean phylosophy, which is a major betrayal of what star wars is, and more)
Age of Decadence (the end is too abrupt)
Too many more...
Mate, click on RPG discussion, and right underneath RPG General Discussion is a thing called "jRPG Weeaboo Discussion". You go there and find peace.Codex elitists : Hey there are japanese games in your list. Disgusting! This is blasphemy!
I agree,jap RPGs are disgusting garbage!In no particular order:
Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions
Mask of the Betrayer
BG2
BG
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Dark Souls
SW: KotOR
Xenoblade Chronicles
Dragon Quest VIII
The Witcher 3 (except for the fact that in the main story they ruined Geralt, basically making him a baby sitter!)
Dragon Quest XI (the story is great, the gameplay and characters less so)
Dragon's Dogma (the gameplay is great, the story and the characters less so)
Pathfinder: Kingmaker (would have been better without the kingdom management system)
Radiant Hystoria: Perfect Chronology (story and characters are great, the gameplay (fighting) less so)
SW: KotOR 2 (has some interesting parts, like the ability to influence followers, but there are many problems, like the existence of G0t0, the loss of the manichean phylosophy, which is a major betrayal of what star wars is, and more)
Age of Decadence (the end is too abrupt)
Too many more...
Codex elitists : Hey there are japanese games in your list. Disgusting! This is blasphemy!
Yeah, this kind of sweeping generalizations are always sign of knowledge and deep thought! I mean, everyone knows that "Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions" == "Dragon's Dogma".I agree,jap RPGs are disgusting garbage!In no particular order:
Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions
Mask of the Betrayer
BG2
BG
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Dark Souls
SW: KotOR
Xenoblade Chronicles
Dragon Quest VIII
The Witcher 3 (except for the fact that in the main story they ruined Geralt, basically making him a baby sitter!)
Dragon Quest XI (the story is great, the gameplay and characters less so)
Dragon's Dogma (the gameplay is great, the story and the characters less so)
Pathfinder: Kingmaker (would have been better without the kingdom management system)
Radiant Hystoria: Perfect Chronology (story and characters are great, the gameplay (fighting) less so)
SW: KotOR 2 (has some interesting parts, like the ability to influence followers, but there are many problems, like the existence of G0t0, the loss of the manichean phylosophy, which is a major betrayal of what star wars is, and more)
Age of Decadence (the end is too abrupt)
Too many more...
Codex elitists : Hey there are japanese games in your list. Disgusting! This is blasphemy!
They can be fun sometimes, but for the most part, they're not really RPGs because you can't make any real choices in them.I agree,jap RPGs are disgusting garbage!
Like I said in the OP, you don't have to rank the RPGs in your top 10. Just list what RPGs you think are in the top 10.
Top 10s are indicative (or symptomatic) of your taste in RPGs. Or your agenda.
They don't make or break a poster, per se, but they can certainly give other posters confidence in you, make them suspicious, or cause them to write you off completely.
I'd say there are "tolerances":
* Those of Fallout Interplay, Troika, Sir-Tech and Black Isle pedigree can have one or two popamoles max, and they should be Deus Ex and/or System Shock 2. With New Vegas in there, you cheapen yourself. Vampire Bloodlines is borderline.
* No one of such pedigree would even consider a Bethesda game other than perhaps Daggerfall.
* Oblivion or Fallout 3 in the list? Instant write-off. Same goes for post-NWN BioWare.
* BG2 but no BG, Fallout 2 but no Fallout? Write-off.
* It is impossible for one of such pedigree to have current gen RPGs on their list, with the exception of Age of Decadence. MotB is about as modern as one can reasonably go.
* jRPGs are out as are Diablo and Diablo 2 as well as any Diablo clone.
* Some pre-1995 RPGs are fine but loading the list up with old Wizardry and Ultima screams super-thick poindexter nostalgia goggles, and possible dementia. Same goes for blobbers other than a select few.
These points are not exhaustive; they only point the way and indicate who to bend the knee to.
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This is a friendly thread in which everyone can freely list what they think are the best RPGs. Don't be shy.
Huh?Like I said in the OP, you don't have to rank the RPGs in your top 10. Just list what RPGs you think are in the top 10.
What?Top 10s are indicative (or symptomatic) of your taste in RPGs. Or your agenda.
What is this garbage I'm reading?They don't make or break a poster, per se, but they can certainly give other posters confidence in you, make them suspicious, or cause them to write you off completely.
I'd say there are "tolerances": <snip>
These points are not exhaustive; they only point the way and indicate who to bend the knee to.