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So the other day, I was cleaning up my screenshots folder, and I accidentally got a bit too zealous and deleted some of the screenshots of December 2028/January 2029. No biggie, but information will be a bit scant for this period. Suffice it to say that after PEC Zwolle approached Hardman, we lost the home game against Watford 1-0, but then hit another fine run of form in January, winning all but one game, and eliminating Millwall and York City in the FA Cup third and fourth rounds. If memory serves, at this point we are 2nd in the league and have the title spot within breathing distance. To shore up our strike force, we bring in Valentin Carboni on loan from Inter:



He hits the ground running, providing competition for Aravena's striker spot, together with the Portuguese Gabriel Silva. We also bring in Swedish midfielder Lucas Bergvall for only £3M from Tottenham, in order to compete with and eventually replace Andreas Pereira.

But then, in February:

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:argh:

Quite how we lose this, I don't know. Or maybe I do. The fundamentals behind our success have been the position play, the passing game, the high possession, and a reliable defence, including ultra-consistent goalkeeping. All these fundamentals work fine here, except the defence: Baxter has been very consistent so far, but this time, he lets some pretty soft shots go under him, including one shot where he narrowed the gap between the near post and his body, but still let it in. Sazonov is the tallest central defender, but gets beaten in the air anyway by Daryl Dyke, the Baggies' target man.

At home against Preston, another extremely undeserved defeat:

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Against promotion competitors Leeds, a sHoCkIng tWo-FoOteD LuNgE!!!!

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In the FA Cup 5th round, we hold Premier League side Newcastle to 0-0 in the first 90 minutes, but in extra time, they get a penalty and then score from regular play in the 102nd minute, and our cup run ends.

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As unfair as some of the defeats have been, we can't really have any complaints about this result against Middlesbrough. They fight fire with fire, also coming up with a 4-3-3 possession-based game, and they win the battle of the midfield. Eric Dier is back in the team after having been plagued by injury for most of the season, and he doesn't move the dial for us much either. Probably not what he had in mind for himself at the age of 35, either. Last season he was often our most reliable player in that half-back position, but his injury woes mean that he never really gets going in the season when we need an experienced force in the Championship title challenge.

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The formation comes under criticism, but for now, Hardman doesn't want to abandon the 4-3-3 yet. Andreas Pereira and Sasa Lukic tend to function well in that two-man central midfield pairing, with Andreas surging forward. Andreas can't play in the defensive midfield position at all, so switching to e.g. 4-2-3-1 would mean benching one of our stars. 4-4-2 would be another option, but it's mostly the lower teams in the league that employ Brexit-ball. But more fundamentally, there is a lot of risk involved in switching formations mid-season, although we do keep training that 4-1-4-1 to grind out results when needed. That's the most experimentation we'll do for now. However, whether it is with this formation or another, the tactic is far from perfect yet, and it will need some more tweaking towards the end of the season and going into the next one.

Speaking of next season, we're already pre-empting the transfer window by approaching players with expiring contracts. This lad is surplus to requirements at Barcelona, but would be a fine fit for us next season, even in the Premier League:

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In real life, he has just signed with Chelsea:



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Our first-choice goalie gets injured too, so it's another chance for Kjell Scherpen after his poor start made him lose his spot to Baxter early on. At Blackburn Rovers, we're up 2-1 going into injury time when Blackburn get a penalty! But Kjell steps up and saves it!

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:fuuyeah:

We lost 4 games in a row at the worst possible time of the season, and Kjell may have just saved Joe Hardman's job here.

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Bernd Leno does a bit of punditry about his former team-mates. Thanks mate! He's not wrong, unfortunately. Fosu has had a great start in the season, but his form has slumped together with the rest of the team's.

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At Peterborough, we finally get CLINICAL. No wasteful shooting, no defensive errors. Even Aravena is incredibly efficient. We give our third goalie Max Weiß a chance, and he looks safe when called upon as well.

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More gems coming in from the youth academy. Will they be good enough for the Premier League though? It's hard to say. But the board want us to give the youngsters a chance, as we've done for Bekoe and Fosu this season. Besides local lads, a coughing man in a trench coat also delivers us a supple 15-year-old Kosovar boy. When Joe asks how he ended up here, the man simply says "Oh, he fell off a lorry, don't ask questions mate".

Against Plymouth, we are the better side, but just as we go into the closing minutes...

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Why you gotta be like this man?

We draw the game 1-1, but then, at Ipswich, we win both the 3 points and the admiration of Robbie Keane:

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You tell me which one you value more! The game itself is another Jekyll and Hyde performance: a great first half, but then in the second half, complacency creeps in while the opposition goes for broke. This guy Ellertsson was on our shortlist, but we never ended up getting him. He runs the game for Ipswich here, and it's only thanks to an offside that we come away with 3 points here.

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With 5 games left until the end of the season, we've done well to recover from that horrible slump in February. We are 3 points behind in the title race, but with the better goal difference. Second place will also lead to automatic promotion. However, Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds, Watford and Middlesbrough are also still in the race for promotion, and are likely all going to be in the playoffs in any case.

Some sage advice from our director of football:

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"I know Harry Wilson wants to leave the club, but we can just press this button here and force him to stay!"

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"Yes, that worked out so brilliantly with Wout Weghort last time. Are you out of your fucking mind?"

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We do get in on the market for Brazilian boys. This lad costs us £6 million and is a pacey forward with good finishing. Although we already have 3 of those, we can easily loan him out and sell him for a greater amount of money.

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Against Sunderland, Quilindschy Hartman gets his second red card of the season! :argh: But we eke out a win anyway.

Actually, here I want to talk about the dirtiness attribute. This is a hidden attribute that is described in coaching/scouting reports as "has a competitive streak which can occasionally lead to him bending the rules". OK, so bending the rules is fine, but hacking the rules down with studs up is not so conducive to keeping 11 men on the pitch. Hartman has this attribute, as does Sasa Lukic. Very annoying, because sometimes they will do something retarded like this.

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Hull win their game, but Sheffield lose theirs. The Premier League beckons!

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Our form and final 4 matches. We still have the opportunity to take the top spot from Hull City too! But with Hull and Watford in there, it's not an easy schedule by any means.

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With both our full-backs suspended, it's Hull who go up and over instead. Although technically anything can still happen, we must accept the title dream is probably over at this point:

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So let's not fuck this u--

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While Hull secure the title, we produce a pretty grim display at Blackpool. We are good at everything except the final third.

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Against Derby, we do what must be done, but Sheffield Wednesday and Middlesbrough both win too. You can barely see it at the top of the screenshot, but Middlesbrough scored their 2-1 at Preston in the 94th minute! :argh:

This means that we haven't yet done enough to secure automatic promotion, and we once again go into a dramatic final match day. Worse, our opponents, Watford, can still secure a playoff spot, so they will not fold easily. The only good news: it's all in our hands.

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The first half is a struggle to break Watford down. Worse yet, the news comes in that Sheffield have scored in their home game against Plymouth Argyle. As we go into the final ten minutes, Watford start coming out of their shell, and Ben Broggio flicks it on to Lucas Da Cunha...

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Well, fuck. Middlesbrough win too, and they have the better goal difference, so we fall back from 2nd to 4th on the final day of the season. That's the reality check right there: we had the big money, we were favourites to win the league, but we simply didn't do enough over the course of 46 matches. There were many times when we were in that 2nd place, with an opening towards the title-winning spot, but failed to capitalise. On the other hand, the competition was stiff, with Sheffield Wednesday and Middlesbrough also competing for promotion, and Leeds being right up there too until they hit their own terrible run of form, with zero wins in the whole month of April. For our part, those 4 defeats in a row in February made a huge difference, with at least two of them being completely against the run of play. But there were also other games where we were on top, but gave it away, or lacked incisiveness in front of goal. All that's left to do now is face the music, lick our wounds, and take that final chance in the playoffs.

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The silver lining: Leeds, as mentioned, have had a poor run of form too. In the league campaign, we didn't have VAR, only goal-line technology. But in the play-offs, VAR is used, and he confirms a foul against us in the box! Lukic coolly converts the penalty. Leeds get back into the game and Jason van Duiven scores the equaliser on an assist from Ruben Mendoza, the left winger. Now Mendoza is not a real player, but a regen, or newgen. Newgens are youth players automatically generated by the game each year, and there are always some new wonderkids emerging all over the world. Newgens can easily be recognised because they don't have a real photograph (or a blank face, if you don't have a face pack), but a CGI face that tends to look like this:
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Anyway, 1-1 in the away tie is not a terrible result, but it gets better!

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Carboni does it again! Lurking outside of the box, he heads in a free kick from Hartman. Four defenders and even the goalie converge on him when they realise where the ball is going and that Carboni is coming in, but they're all too late. That's just a fucking excellent piece of positioning and movement.

In the second leg at home, we hold them to 0-0 until injury time, when Aravena finds a chance to break away. He plays the through ball to Iwobi and...

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Middlesbrough have also dispatched Watford, so our last chance at promotion will be against them! Actually, Fulham haven't won a game against the Teesside club since December 2024! But statistics don't matter when the playoff final is at stake. This final does not have a home and away tier, but is played at Wembley!

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As a young lad, Joe Hardman dreamed of setting foot on this sacred ground, where Bobby Moore lifted the Jules Rimet Trophy in 1966. Instead, the old Wembley, with its iconic twin towers, was demolished in 2000 and replaced by the new Wembley, finished in 2007:

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It's still a stadium like no other. With a capacity of 90,000, it's unlikely that these two sets of fans will fill out the stands entirely. Instead of a cup final or England game, Joe Hardman walks onto this pitch under entirely different circumstances: to salvage a Championship season that should have been over already, considering the massive amount of money poured into the club by the new Korean owner, and the dominant performances on the pitch in most games.

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It's once again the Inter loanee Carboni who opens the scoring after a visionary pass over the defence from Lukic. The game remains a very tight affair, similar to a cup final. Boro don't roll over easily, and actually have the most possession. In the 70th minute, they get a corner which finds Abel Ruiz in the box. He shoots it into the mass of Fulham defenders, but Baxter has already gone down. The ball bounces back to Ruiz, who heads it into an empty net.

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Both exhausted teams are unable to produce much more in extra time, and this is going to end the only way it could have. Yes, the final opportunity for us to achieve promotion will be on penalties! Vanja Milinkovic-Savic, their Serbian goalie, is over 2 metres tall and has excellent reflexes. Our Nathan Baxter is no slouch either, although Kjell Scherpen would have probably been a bit better for this sort of thing. Still, he stops two penalties, while Vanja saves only one. Boro's second miss, by Leonidas Stergiou, looks like some kind of audacious Panenka attempt, but Baxter stays put and the ball bounces off his hands! :smug:

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Our 6th penalty taker, Fosu, steps up. 21 years old, born in Ghana, he came up through the youth academy in 2024, and broke into Hardman's first team this season. On his shoulders rests not just the responsibility for the win, but the entire difference between success and failure of the season, tens of millions of pounds, and his manager's job, among several other high stakes.

Fosu cuts a slightly nervous figure, while Vanja touches the bar, showing his height. Fosu runs up, Vanja spreads his arms and dances on his line, moves forward, dives into the corner where Fosu aims, but it flies straight into the top corner!!!

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The Fulham fans are in ecstacy! The poshest set of fans in the country invade the pitch like a bunch of yobs! Prawn sandwiches and charcuterie lies abandoned in the stands! Monocles fly!

Although Fulham have been here before, this has to be one of the most dramatic bounce-backs in recent history. And so, the final table looks like this:

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Fulham will be joining champions Hull City and Sheffield Wednesday in the Premier League! Although we had the best defensive record, we missed a lot of chances. Middlesbrough, Leeds and Watford took it extremely close, while Sunderland and Swansea also got over 70 points, but they will have to languish in the Championship for another season. The mid-table remains the mid-table, with Norwich not making it back up. Luton Town fought bravely despite going into administration and being docked 12 points, but now they're slipping into even deeper despair, joining Bristol and Blackburn in League One.

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In the Premier League, normality is restored after Chelsea's title last season. The richest seven clubs form the top seven, while all of last season's promoted teams go straight back down into the Championship, a damning indictment of the violence inherent in the system! We'll have our work cut out if we don't want to join them next season.

Joe Hardman returns to the Premier League with another sizeable transfer budget and players accustomed to his system. On the other hand, it falls on him to bring the squad up to Premier League level, and find a way to make the tactic more incisive up front, while keeping it tight against the Premier League's attacking players. While many of our Championship opponents parked the bus and had to be broken down, back in the Prem, we can expect them to try and attack us. This also has its positive sides, as our own forwards may get their chances. But we'll need to improve the supply to them and make sure we take our chances.

2027/28 was the season Joe Hardman briefly entered the Premier League with Fulham, but was relegated. 28/29 was the season he returned there. 29/30 will be make or break: is Joe Hardman the genuine article? Is he a Premier League manager?
 

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Damn, the suspense of scrolling down sentence by sentence on that shootout report... nice to see the unlucky losses didn't do the season in.

How long was Joe's Fulham contract? Are you even planning to stay after it expires?
 

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Pheeew, that was some stressful, edge of your seat stuff. I would guess Joe Hardman lost a couple of years of his life from the stress of that final match alone.

At a minimum I vote to stay at least one more season at Fulham, see if we can stay in the Premiership at least once and so Joe can’t be accused of being a complete mercenary.
 

wwsd

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Damn, the suspense of scrolling down sentence by sentence on that shootout report... nice to see the unlucky losses didn't do the season in.

How long was Joe's Fulham contract? Are you even planning to stay after it expires?

Actually, it was ending after this season, but it will get extended now that we've won promotion. Definitely want to do one full season with them in the Prem at least, unless like literally top 7 Prem or top La Liga/Serie A/Bundesliga clubs come knocking.
 

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June 2029... while the annual race riots and pandemic monkeypox rock Britain, only Fulham soldiers on! Well, let's hope it won't actually look like that, but should things continue to go south in Britain, you would sort of expect the residents of plush Fulham to make it out OK, considering the circumstances. Keep calm and keep those real estate prices up!

For Joe Hardman, the summer is marked by the preparations for yet another make-or-break season. After only just failing to save Fulham FC from relegation in his first season, and only barely making it back into the top flight in 2028-2029, the upcoming season presents both tremendous danger and opportunity. If we can nestle ourselves in the Premier League just once, it will be worth all the headaches. One mid-table finish or better, and it means that only an exceptionally bad season could dislodge the club from the Premier League. Not that Fulham have been strangers to that happening in the last decade, but still... On a more personal level, for Joe Hardman, it would add even more superlatives to an already meteoric career. To go from nothing, to the Welsh leagues, to the Scottish top flight, and then to borderline Premier League/Championship could be considered an incredible trajectory by itself. But if Joe becomes an established Premier League manager on top of that, he will finally cement himself as the absolute maddest of mad lads, and the sky will be the limit as far as job perspectives go. He would only have to show his face on a council estate again as part of the club's ambassadorial duties, which he would do with pleasure, but he'll never have to actually live there anymore.

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Although it's not 'rich seven' money by any means (or rather 'rich eight', as FM-universe Everton were taken over by a Hong Kong tycoon in 2024, just in time for the Bramley-Moore Dock move, and currently have the 3rd-highest wage bill in the league - they finished 4th once as a result, but have remained mired in mid-table obscurity since then; I suggest they bring back David Moyes), our Korean overlords give us an ample transfer budget. All throughout last season, our scouts have been trawling both in South America and in our own EFL Championship. Now, it's time to raid those clubs that didn't quite make it up.

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Mendoza made 22 assists for Leeds. Leeds did well all season, but a tremendous slump in April saw them drop down to playoff spots, and the rest is history. Although Mendoza contributed an assist against Fulham, he wasn't able to stop us from winning the away game 2-1. With Leeds remaining behind, their squad is ripe for the picking. Mendoza is our first transfer target. Although Louis Bekoe is our own home-grown left-winger, Joe already learned way back at Briton Ferry that it's not a good idea to be sentimental after winning promotion. We have to keep forging on to find players good enough for the Premier League level. Bekoe can be a back-up or be loaned out.

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Before we can start reeling in the Spanish wonderkid however, there is the matter of our own contract to consider. With Joe's contract expiring at the end of the season, our K-Pop Tycoon was obviously waiting and seeing how the playoffs would end. Had we failed, he would have surely been happy to let it expire, for he has high ambitions for the club that he took over. In the upcoming season, we're only expected to fight bravely against relegation. But by 2032, he wants the club to look towards the top half of the league. And since he enjoyed seeing Fulham at Wembley so much, by 2034, he wants the team to go back there, not for a playoff game, but for an FA Cup semi-final or higher, or for the League Cup final! With a 3-year contract on offer, 2032 will be the halfway point to evaluate whether we broke into the top half or not.

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Speaking of sentimentalism, there are going to be some redundancy notices handed out. I forgot to mention this in the previous post, probably due to having deleted the screenshot, but Andreas Pereira also started getting homesick halfway in the previous season.

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"You want to go back to... Belgium? I thought you were Brazilian!"

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"Actually, I'll have you know that I was born in Duffel. My dad's Brazilian, but he was playing in Belgium, so that's where I grew up before I signed with PSV. Just seeing a duffel bag or a duffel coat makes me tear up inside..."

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"All right mate, I didn't ask for your life story. You're free to go to Belgium at the end of the season."

Eric Dier is also allowed to leave. He decides to sign with Portimonense in the sunny Algarve. Good choice!

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Andreas is not the only person who wants out. Although Norwich will still be in the Championship next season, our assistant manager Craig Shakespeare wants to go back to working under Nick Montgomery, who was Fulham manager before Joe Hardman came along. Is it too soon to make a joke about how ungrateful he is, considering that we stuck with him despite being dead? You decide!

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We replace Shakey with an assistant with a very similar profile. Mike Phelan spent a large part of his coaching career as Sir Alex Ferguson's assistant. He usually did the interviews with the BBC because Sir Alex was angry about the BBC's investigations into his son. Now at an advanced age, he brings a wealth of experience to Joe Hardman's backroom staff.

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Another big-ticket signing: the goalie we already wanted in our first season, but failed to get at the time. Another purchase that's all about levelling up for the Premier League.

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With most of our budget spent already, we can sit back and wait for any major offers to come in for our players, or look for some loanees or cheaper youth signings. Although our budget is ample, everyone is also getting 25%-35% wage increases because of our promotion.

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These two Barcelona players come in on free transfers already arranged last season. Georgiev, the Bulgarian central defender, functioned well for us on loan last season, so it's good we can make the deal permanent. Let's see if he can make it to Premier League level.

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Another free transfer, Harvey Vale will be our back-up in the left-back position, although he can also double as a winger or even striker in a hurry. Hey, he's only one typo removed from 'Bale', so that makes sense, right?

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For a brief moment, we were hoping to sign an aged Fabián on a free transfer. Hey, nothing ventured, nothing gained, right? Unfortunately, he rejected Fulham because of Al Taawoun's "stronger squad". The "stronger squad" in question:

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"Yeah, I get it mate, I'm a massive fan of Georges Mikautadze too. :M"

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Although we're just recently back in the Premier League, the bookies have high hopes for Fulham. While Sheffield Wednesday and Hull City are expected to go straight back down, we're not considered relegation candidates, what with the money being thrown around and the quality being brought in.

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Another pure depth signing, this former Fiorentina man rounds out our defence nicely. At this rate, we may end up with some disgruntled players, and someone will probably have to be loaned out during the winter transfer window, but that's fine.

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This lad could be our sleeper hit, signed on a free after extensive scouting. He's a central midfielder, but he's also 190cm tall. Physically strong and mentally balanced, he is like a bigger, better version of Andreas Pereira, and he will be replacing Andreas in that attacking central midfielder role. By having a big guy there, we can also win some aerial challenges if the opposing goalies make the mistake of playing high balls. He can also play in Lukic's role as a deep-lying playmaker. He's just an extremely versatile player, the only thing that lets him down a little bit is that he doesn't have a lot of flair.

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Since we now have four experienced goalies, it's better to let one go. Scherpen didn't bring what we were hoping for, so he can now warm the bench at Ajax instead. We more or less break even on him.

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Chelsea are always happy to contribute some unsettled players for loan signings. Madueke here was a decent squad player until 2024, but then fell into obscurity. When he does actually play, he seems to be very injury-prone, so it's a bit of a punt we're taking here. But there's no harm done when he's on loan and we still have Jack Harrison in that same position.

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The interface gets a fresh coating of paint too with a new skin and stadium pictures added for flavour. I might still change the skin later, but this will do for now.

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We check back in on Andreas to see if he's happy in Belgium now. Turns out he's filled his duffel bag with Putin's dirty roubles!

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We start the Premier League campaign with an extremely dominant display against West Ham, but fail to capitalise. Thankfully, our next opponent is the also newly promoted Sheffield Wednesday.

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Aravena is finally coming into his own this season, being more clinical in his finishing. All his attributes should point to this being the case, with Aravena having excellent dribbling, finishing, first-touch and technique skills. It just hasn't come out under Hardman yet. We can also improve the supply to him this season.

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Off the pitch, we continue to tap into the loan market. Sebastiani is a talented defensive midfielder, but his transfer sum is estimated to be in the region of £50M-60M. We can't afford this, but we have wage budget to spare, so bringing him on loan is the smart thing to do. Although his technical, passing and vision ability is so good that playing him in a purely defensive role is a bit of a waste of his talent. He would do very well as a deep-lying playmaker starting from the DM position, but he may have to wait until next season (if we can retain him) in order to play in his favourite role.

We beat League One side Reading in the League Cup. The next game will be away at Liverpool!

Then we conclude our last bit of transfer business this window:

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An Argentinian in Brazilian service, Fausto's contract with Corinthians expires in January 2030, so that's when he'll be joining our squad. We have a lot of quality in midfield already, but he is another potential replacement for Lukic, who has just turned 33.

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We tweak our tactic a little bit: instead of playing with two full-backs, Van Ewijk will play in a more attacking wing-back role. With Madueke cutting inside, Van Ewijk can contribute more crosses into the box. This way, we are more threatening up front, and Aravena gets more supply to profit from his improved form. But at the same time, it's still defensively balanced. It would have been nice going with two wing-backs, as Hartman and Van Ewijk are both capable in that role, but it could be a bit too attacking in the Premier League. Besides, Mendoza is a classic winger, so he can provide that width on the left. So we attack in different ways on each flank. We keep the half-back role, so the defensive midfielder (Sebastiani in this screenshot) drops between the two central defenders. So in possession, the 4-3-3 becomes more of a 3-4-3.

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It's going to take some time for this to work, and we lose the game against our neighbours, Brentford.

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For the League Cup game against Liverpool, we try something new.



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:yeah:

I've been wanting to try a deep-lying 4-4-2 (so, 4-4-2 but with defensive midfielders instead of CMs) for a while now, and this video gave me a good opportunity, as this variant is being touted as a great choice for underdog teams. I followed the advice from the video and switched my wingers to 'Defensive Wingers' instead of regular ones. This is a very underrated role by itself, since the wingers will do a lot to press the opposing full-backs. So any opponent that makes the mistake of trying to build up with their full-backs will be in for a nasty shock. With that deep-lying central midfield, it's like you're smothering the opposition. It's a very intense, high-pressing tactic, so you're not just sitting back. But what makes it very overpowered is where you press, and which players are involved. On more than a few occasions, I've had the pressing forward surprise an opposing defender from behind while he was trying to find passing options for his build-up play. I don't know if this is some kind of match engine-breaking thing, or if it's just that good. For now, we'll use this against the top teams and see how many upsets like this we can sneak in.

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At Southampton, we start extremely well, with two early goals by Aravena, and we're up 4-0 in the 50th minute. After that, Southampton start to come back a little bit, and we end the game in the most defensive formation possible, but still walk away with the three points.

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We deploy the deep 4-4-2 again in the Man United game, and it's really only thanks to their individual qualities that they escape with a draw at Craven Cottage.

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With Liverpool seen off in the League Cup, and 2 wins, 2 draws and 2 defeats from the first six games, it's an encouraging start to the Premier League campaign.

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"Wait, it's a full month until our next game?"

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"Oh yes, the calendar is a bit out of wack. There's international games in all these weeks."

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"Well fuck me, that's one way to deal with fixture congestion. Better plan some friendlies for those of us who are not playing any international games."

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In the international break, Ruben Mendoza gets his first cap for Spain under Unai Emery.

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This headline has been around in FM for decades and it still cracks me up. :lol: Reminds me of this for some reason (minus the kill part):



He's a decent striker, but we've got a whole bunch of those, and if he's on the bench for Leeds in the Championship now, he's probably not what we're looking for. But we'll keep him in mind.

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When league play resumes, we see off the former Championship champs.

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If it weren't for games like this, we could have been competing for European spots already! :argh:

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In the League Cup game against Sheffield United, we field a B team and have to bring Mendoza and co. back in when they score an early goal. They proceed to park the bus, and the fairy tale that went so well with the win against Liverpool comes to an end.

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Roberto Mancini has wormed his way into another big-money club. Since 2025, Everton's Hong Kong-based owners have sacked Sean Dyche, Vincent Kompany and Alessio Dionisi before bringing in Mancini, and he starts mouthing off about how we're not all that great, everyone's just been understimating us. With the 3rd-biggest budget in the league, he's not going to make a mistake against us, right?

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:smug:

With the team in 7th place and the board delighted with Joe Hardman, it's time to take the final leap:

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As if managing Fulham wasn't enough, Joe now embarks on a year of gruelling studies, at the end of which, he will be able to:

Four pillars of the UEFA Pro Diploma​

A UEFA Pro licence holder will have a clear understanding of player and team development and coaching at professional level, and must demonstrate competence in the following four areas:

The professional coach

- Working as the head coach of a professional club’s first team or, in some cases, as a member of the coaching staff at professional level
- Working closely with and leading the coaching and multidisciplinary staff
- Being involved in developing and applying a club’s technical policy and philosophy
- Ensuring the right balance between the players’ professional and private lives
- Working with professional players from different cultural backgrounds, of different ages and experience, e.g. young talented players, experienced players, star players
- Dealing with all factors affecting the team’s performance: media, players’ agents, fans, scouts, sports ethics, etc
- Being accountable to the club’s management: club owner, club board, technical director, etc
- Contributing to the club’s overall policy

Russia coach Stanislav Cherchesov addresses Pro Licence students at UEFA HQ in2019

Russia coach Stanislav Cherchesov addresses Pro Licence students at UEFA HQ in2019UEFA via Getty Images
The player and team

- Planning, executing and supporting individual player development, including players’ own objectives, and complying with the club’s technical policy
- Giving direction and supporting players, enabling them to take responsibility for their individual development and involving them in the process (stimulating self-regulation)
- Working on the team’s development in cooperation with all support staff, i.e. technical, medical and performance staff
- Managing all aspects of the team’s performance
- Creating a winning team and a high-performance culture in a positive environment at professional level

The training environment

- Preparing and conducting individual and team training sessions at professional level
- Working with individual players and the team and understanding how the training session design can affect performance at professional level
- Designing game-oriented (team tactical) training sessions in terms of opponents, pressure and intensity
- Planning, delivering and reviewing training sessions in accordance with the club’s coaching philosophy
- Designing a seasonal team-tactical and physical plan in accordance with the competition schedule and the club’s objectives
- Embracing and adopting an interdisciplinary approach to physical and mental preparation and development, wherever possible in cooperation with other members of the multi-disciplinary team, e.g. performance analysts, fitness coaches, sports scientists, medical and other performance staff

The match

- Preparing a team for and coaching them during matches at professional level
- Using the game to develop each player and the team, but also to create a winning team and a high-performance culture
- Preparing the match plan (with the staff) in accordance with the club’s playing philosophy, taking the opponent team into account
- Analysing matches (with the staff) as an evaluation and learning tool for individual players and the team as a whole.

https://www.uefa.com/news-media/new...b8-1000--course-details-the-uefa-pro-diploma/

Coaching a team during matches at professional level! Imagine that! Just one more year and we'll never have to think about this mechanic ever again.

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That's 5 wins in 10!

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After that Crystal Palace win, we struggle a bit, but recover against Wolves. Coming up towards the end of the calendar year are four games against traditional top teams, but there is one strange thing going on here. If you'll look at the screenshot above, Liverpool are in 18th place with 10 points from 14 games! They've just sacked Luis Enrique as their manager, and it's shaping up to be their worst season in living memory, and the question has to be asked: can Liverpool really get relegated?

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We give them more than a little push. Although it's not quite 22-assist level like in the Championship, Mendoza is proving to be an excellent purchase so far. At the age of 20, he's already a top Premier League-level player. We follow this victory with a 0-0 against Chelsea.

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We are also reaching Aravena much better, with his tally now standing at 10 goals out of 14 league games.

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We push Manchester City very close to an upset, but they come back in the 88th and 95th minute.

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We really deserved to get more out of the Arsenal game too, but still, getting 5 points against these four top opponents in one of the hardest series of fixtures of the season is some achievement.

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On New Year's Day, Fausto Vera joins the squad, and we also sign another Argentinian for £5M. This is purely a long-term signing, and we might just loan him out later. Yes, Joe Hardman is already proving surprisingly adept at playing Monopoly with the club's money. Any young talents we sign for cheap can be trained by the club and loaned out or sold for far greater sums later. An unfortunate side effect is that it turns the first-team squad into a foreign legion. Out of our best XI, only Noni Madueke has English nationality. The other English lads in the team are all squad players or lower: Nathan Baxter, Jayden Bogle, Jack Harrison, Harvey Vale, Horace Harvey and Louis Bekoe are our native-born English lads.

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But any mix of nationalities can be forged into a team, as we prove once again at Aston Villa. We beat them, despite the presence of the now 34-year-old Jack Grealish, who, after having escaped from Pep's clutches to Saudi Arabia, rejoined his old club on a free. Sadly, Aravena is beginning to hit a bit of a goal drought again, with his production not nearly as high as it was in the first half of the season.

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The first murmurs of discontent are beginning to be heard from benched players. Bergvall was another candidate to replace Andreas Pereira, but he never really broke into the team even in the Championship season, let alone in the Prem.

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Birmingham City are in the mid-table in the Championship, and in this FA Cup game, we show them exactly why we left the Championship behind.

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At last, another British lad joins the team. The Scotsman's natural position is as a right-back, but he has recently apparently been converted into a winger. He is another back-up/investment.

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It's a blast from the past as none other than SERGIO AGUEROOOOOOO draws us against Championship team Portsmouth, where Wayne Rooney has just been appointed to try and save them from their precarious 24th spot.

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Here you can see our shape in possession, with Keita dropping into the defence to form a back three. Another bad day in the office for Sheffield Wednesday?

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They actually get back into the game, and it takes a corner in the 90th minute, headed in by Georgiev, for us to get the 3 points here! :shredder:

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Bayern Munich make an offer for our 3rd goalie. Although it's not a great amount of money being offered, we also don't want to force him to stay here when he's only going to play for the reserves anyway, so we let him go. Bergvall is offloaded to Palermo on loan, although he's probably not going to get much playing time there either.

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Our first heavy thrashing comes not against Manchester City or Arsenal, but away at West Ham. We are done in by some incredibly lethargic defending, allowing 19-year-old Belgian-Moroccan newgen Oudghiri to run onto the ball not once, but twice.

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We substitute one 3rd goalie for another, bringing in a Cuban no less! The challenge for reserve goalies is always to find someone who is good enough to actually stop som fackin shots if needed, but not good enough that he'll actually want playing time. Judging from his career stats so far, this guy fits the bill as he is comfortable sitting in the stands and playing for the reserves at various Spanish clubs.

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Wayne Rooney's Pompey actually take the lead against us, but we get two penalties and Aravena contributes two assists from the wings this time, as we give Josué a chance. In the Fifth Round, the opposition will be none other than... Arsenal! Time to break out that weird 4-4-2 DM tactic again!

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Maybe we should have used it against Brentford too, as they prove troublesome again. We take an early 2-0 lead, but they gradually begin to control the game, and the collapse is disappointing. It's another game where our defence gets wrongfooted by a pinpoint through ball. And anyone who has paid attention to the Eredivisie IRL knows that you can trust Vangelis Pavlidis to score from all angles.

With 16 games left to play, we're just over the halfway mark. Next time, you'll find out if there are any shenanigans on transfer deadline day, if the FA Cup produces any magic, and where we'll end in the league!

The results so far:

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With 33 points out of 22 games so far, we are smashing our target of avoiding relegation! The magical 40 points are not far away now, and it's pretty much impossible for us to go down at this stage. The real question is whether we'll already be able to achieve the top-half finish that is expected by 2032. Some of the teams below us still have games in hand, so it will be very hard to keep them all at bay. Our recent form has also been a bit too inconsistent and too weak at the back to suggest that we're really going to challenge for European spots, but never say never! Also, note the still so far invincible Chelsea, and Liverpool barely scraping out of the relegation zone with one game in hand. April and May brings another 4-week gauntlet against Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City and Arsenal, so it will be important to build as big a cushion as possible before that. But all in all, it's been a stylish return to the Premier League, with Joe Hardman's star rising accordingly just when he's working on his final coaching badge. Let's see if we can't crown this achievement with something like a 7th place, or a good showing in the FA Cup!
 

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That's a very impressive post-promotion campaign. Looks like Joe Hardman does his best work as an underdog coach, and I imagine you're even higher in the xG table.

Being the manager of an established Premier League side is when you've pretty much 'made it' in FM terms, and it's hard to see where the journeyman career can continue from that. How many teams are there at this point that are a clear step up in prestige or compensation? 20 worldwide? A move to Lille or AS Roma would be lateral at best, unless you really want to push that mercenary aspect of the game and go for the biggest paycheck. Just from the quality of writing and drama standpoint I'm slightly disappointed there never was an intermediate step as the manager of Zwolle or Stade Reims or something after Livingston, but you can't argue with success. The madman Khan saw a buy-low high-reward asset in Hardman and his gamble is paying off.
 

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Nah, Joe still has to win some serious silverware before we can say he’s ‘made it’. Lesser men might be content with what you’re suggesting, but Joe Hardman has the titanium balls to try and shoot for the stars.
 

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That's a very impressive post-promotion campaign. Looks like Joe Hardman does his best work as an underdog coach, and I imagine you're even higher in the xG table.

Being the manager of an established Premier League side is when you've pretty much 'made it' in FM terms, and it's hard to see where the journeyman career can continue from that. How many teams are there at this point that are a clear step up in prestige or compensation? 20 worldwide? A move to Lille or AS Roma would be lateral at best, unless you really want to push that mercenary aspect of the game and go for the biggest paycheck. Just from the quality of writing and drama standpoint I'm slightly disappointed there never was an intermediate step as the manager of Zwolle or Stade Reims or something after Livingston, but you can't argue with success. The madman Khan saw a buy-low high-reward asset in Hardman and his gamble is paying off.

Nah, Joe still has to win some serious silverware before we can say he’s ‘made it’. Lesser men might be content with what you’re suggesting, but Joe Hardman has the titanium balls to try and shoot for the stars.


Yeah, I think there are many things still to be done in this playthrough. Sure it's been a great upwards trajectory, but actually winning the big trophies is the one thing that's better than just becoming established in the top flight. And that moment is still far removed. On a more meta level, I'm also still learning how to develop tactics (without cheesing the game). When I see Liverpool struggling in this season, I almost feel sorry I didn't apply with them when they sacked Luis Enrique. Restoring them to Premier League-winning glory might be a good challenge in the next few seasons (if they don't actually get relegated). Then there are European top leagues, Champions League, international football, etc. After winning lots of successes, it would also be fun to try and win stuff with youth players, with mostly UK & Ireland players, playing 4-4-2 Brexit-ball, etc. Or maybe we'll eventually get sacked somewhere and have to do it all over again. Or maybe Joe lets the money get to his head, has several trophy wives and children in short succession, and he has to work in the Saudi league to pay for all the alimony and child support (OK, that doesn't sound like fun, but you get the idea).

At some point it will inevitably be a matter of thinking horizontally rather than vertically. But I would love to have some kind of long-term trajectory where Joe reaches a certain peak, and then starts going back down with crazy shit like managing in the Japanese or American leagues, or taking Malaysia or Jamaica to the World Cup, or something similarly exotic. Like how Dick Advocaat is doing Curaçao in real life now, I think that would be fun to do when it's like the year 2056 and Joe is like 70 years old and no longer has anything to prove as a manager. We can take the whole 'Journeyman' thing very literally. Of course this all depends on how much longer I want to keep playing this save without getting bored of it. At some point the pace will inevitably slow down, but we're not there yet!
 

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January 31rd, 2030. As the first month of the new decade draws to a close, Joe Hardman texts Susan Dublin, his devoted personal assistant, who has been by his side since the Briton Ferry days.

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"I'm going to bed early tonight, love. No more transfer business for today."

It's been a quiet month, even by winter transfer window standards. Full-backs Iván Enrique and Alex Underwood were brought in with a view to the future, and some other players were loaned out. One third goalie was replaced by another. But no club ever approached Fulham for any of its top players. Despite the recent drop in form, the club is having a dream return in the Premier League. As Joe turns in for the night, the transfer deadline passes quietly.

So, did we continue to accumulate points in the second half of the season? Spoiler alert: not exactly.

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The defeats against West Ham and Brentford you already saw last update. This is followed by three more games without a win, despite being better at home than Southampton and Spurs. Maybe a bit OTT to already start speculating about sacking though. :lol:

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We also lose the FA Cup fifth round to Arsenal.

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This rotten patch of form goes on for 8 games, all the way until mid-March, when we finally completely dominate Crystal Palace.

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In the league standings, it doesn't matter that much, as we remain in an extremely respectable 9th place, and will likely end in the mid-table somewhere. But it leaves a bad taste in the mouth to go from 33 points out of 22, to 'only' 39 out of 29. Both attack and defence have become an issue, with Aravena no longer finding the goals as easily as before, while the defence is beginning to look a bit shakey and not necessarily up to scratch for the Premier League anymore. Probably some teams are also adapting to us better. Joan Gonzalez got 3 goals and 4 assists early in the season, but has barely been able to add to his tally since then.

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Joe wins some battles on another front. Some of our best players still have minimum release clauses. We use the club's large coffers to either get rid of these clauses, or at least increase them in Mendoza's case. Mendoza thus becomes by far the best-paid player in the team, earning almost twice as much as the likes of Keita and Aravena, but they'll just have to deal with that for now.

Against Brighton, we take the lead in the 1st minute, and then Mendoza pays Joe for his confidence in the way that only the elite of the elite of football can do:

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:abyssgazer:

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The half-week fine that he'll have to pay for that is probably more than most British people's yearly salary.

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It was a bit "blink and you'll miss it", but João Gomes was on loan for us last season as one of several options in the defensive midfield. Back at Wolves, he sinks us in the 86th minute.

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Long-suffering Liverpool have once again turned to a Spanish manager, Míchel, formerly of Girona (also IRL) and then Wolves and Valencia. Under his lead, they slowly crawl out of the abyss, and we don't push them around as easily anymore either. The deep-lying 4-4-2 is not exactly the giant-killing magic bullet Joe thought it might be. It does create a lot of chances, but it also creates openings that a good opponent will exploit. Although in any other universe, any manager would have signed for a 2-2 against Liverpool, now it almost feels like a disappointment.

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The end of the season draws near, with three incredibly tough games against Chelsea, Man City and Arsenal before a home game against Aston Villa, who are still fighting relegation.

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Nobody breaks down the 4-4-2 better than Chelsea though. The league leaders give us the biggest hiding of the season, and the squad resort to a bit of demagoguery to appease the fans:

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:takemymoney:

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Obviously Man City haven't been watching the footage of that game, because they run straight into our knives. :lol: It's one of the sweetest wins of the season, coming as it does just when the team's form has been poor, with the 6-1 against Chelsea fresh in everyone's memory from last week, and with some of our most important players not performing. This time however, Aravena scores two, Madueke provides two assists, and Mendoza is involved in two goals!

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With so many points spilled since January, the season is effectively over for Fulham. Although we can still finish between 9th and 12th, it's really only a technical difference between the top and bottom half of the table at this point. Liverpool can look back at a wasted year, but at least they climbed out of the relegation zone. Manchester City have been poor all season, and their defeat at Craven Cottage places them below their neighbours United. Arsenal give away the top spot by conceding a penalty at Everton in the 95th minute! Arsenal will really come at us next week to keep their title challenge alive. At the bottom of the table, the curtain has already fallen for Sheffield Wednesday. Hull are likely to join them, but could still pull off a great escape. Wolves, Southampton and Aston Villa are all still fighting tooth and nail to stay up. Joe sympathises with them, remembering the desperate relegation battles at Livingston and the first season at Fulham, but Villa can't expect any favours when they come to the Cottage!

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We give Arsenal a tough time at the Emirates, and we almost torpedo their title chances. But with this defeat, the season is well and truly over for us, as only a big change in goal difference could theoretically still put us below Liverpool. Southampton managed to snatch a point from Manchester United in the 93rd minute, so our last game, at home against Aston Villa, will actually become a relegation cracker! Just not for us.

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Apparently we "failed" an objective. How this is measured or what the manager can do to influence it remains a mystery. But maybe we can ask the board to divert some more funding towards youth recruitment?

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:deathclaw:

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Obviously our youngsters are doing something right though, because they win the U21 Premier League!

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Lukic must endure an even greater disappointment however, as he is left out of the Serbia squad for the World Cup in Spain. Even though he has been a consistent performer for us in the Premier League even when others faltered, he is now 33 and slowly declining physically, and apparently Serbia want some fresh blood in there. Seven others do get a chance to shine on the world stage:

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We end the season with a decent, if unspectacular send-off against Aston Villa. For us, the game no longer matters, but for Villa, it's far more consequential:

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Since Southampton have lost their game as well, Villa needed a draw to stay up on goal difference. Their defeat here sends them down into the Championship for the first time since 2019, after a decade of having been a solid Premier League side. Even the return of the aged Jack Grealish didn't save them.

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In the Championship, Middlesbrough have once again fallen at the final hurdle. Nottingham Forest will be joining Leeds and Leicester in the Premier League instead, while Wayne Rooney's Portsmouth fall down into League One.

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The final Premier League table with the European qualifications. Chelsea and Arsenal surprisingly both drew their final games, leaving Chelsea the league winners! Crystal Palace won the FA Cup, while Brighton won the League Cup. Newcastle won the Europa League, that's why they're in the CL next season. As for Fulham, the bookies predicted us to finish 12th, and they were not far from the mark. It stings that we didn't keep winning points at the same rate as before, but the mid-table finish is well above the board's expectations at least. Brentford were relegated in 2025, promoted back in 2026, then built up a succession of mid-table finishes, before finally finishing 5th this season. If we can emulate this trajectory with Fulham, we'll do very well. Brighton are also worth emulating, even if they didn't repeat their 4th-place finish of last season.

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Although our underperformance wasn't as extreme as in the Championship last season, the xG table indicates that we could have already been in European qualifier places with a bit better finishing, less leaky defending, and a bit more sheer dumb luck. The second half of the season is where we mainly ended on the wrong side of this table:

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We've got the brightest talent in England in our midst! If Mendoza does well in the World Cup, it may not last long.

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The board are all ready to help us make the leap, too. Where can we improve?

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Aravena ended up 4th in the top scorer's table, but we may still want a more consistent striker. Luizão has been a very consistent defender in the Championship, but one might wonder if he's really cut out to compete in the upper reaches of the Premier League. Some other positions could do with improvements as well.

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We shore up the backline with Maxim Dekker, former AZ, but marginalised and transfer listed at Atletico Madrid. Not a bad player to pick up from the bargain bin.

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Mendoza bursts onto the World Cup scene in his homeland. Although it's not against the strongest opposition, being involved in 5 out of 8 goals is an achievement to say the least.

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Meanwhile, there is a struggle to find enough space for more stars on the EU flag, as all the remaining former Yugoslav countries and Albania finally settle their differences and join the EU collectively.

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But Joe Hardman decides to sign a British lad instead! Haley is young and not quite up to Premier League level yet, but he'll be an important part of our set-up. The idea is to switch to a 4-2-3-1 and use a shadow striker next season.

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We shell out on a complete forward, a man with size, strength and speed. It's a risky purchase, and the competition for the striker position will be stiff, but it'll hopefully be worth it in the end.

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Madueke's loan becomes permanent.

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Manchester City sacked Thomas Tuchel for only finishing 4th with them. Joe put his hat into the ring, but they picked this Brazilian guy instead.

Mendoza's fortunes at the World Cup begin to wane. Although Spain dominate the tournament in their own country, Mendoza's last major contribution is in the round of 16, where title holders Nigeria are smashed 4-0, and Mendoza contributes a goal and an assist. But in the quarter-finals against England (2-0 win for Spain), he starts on the bench, and only plays in the second half. In the 3-0 semi-final win against Belgium, he remains on the bench, but then starts again in the final against Italy.

On that day in July, Joe Hardman attends the World Cup final in person. Although he's been to the Camp Nou on a tour before, to see the World Cup final there is an experience in and of itself. Already in the first minute, Mendoza takes a corner that is cleared away, but Lamine Yamal gets it just outside the box and scores!!! Then in the 9th and 11th minute, Italy scores two clone goals: two free kicks by Federico Dimarco from almost the same spot on the right flank, both headed in by Lorenzo Pirola. Weird. Camp Nou falls silent. Mendoza gets subbed off during the break, having been invisible except for that corner that led to the first goal. In the second half, uncharacteristically, Italy try to attack and extend their lead, and finally get the 3-1 in the 73rd minute. Spain claw one back in the 86th minute, but it's clear that they have choked in front of their home crowd. Or maybe they should have held the final in Madrid instead...

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Although he didn't dominate every match, Mendoza still gets a couple of awards for his performances in the tournament.

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While Joe is sipping sangrias and commiserating with Mendoza, the ever hard-working Tony Khan puts pen to paper on another defensive signing.

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We do some selling too though. Bergvall was signed for £3M, never really got going, but is sold for £20M to the Ay-rabs now.

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To reduce the competition for the central defence spots, we allow Luizão to go home to Brazil on loan.

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But could someone else be headed for Brazil? That's right, we've put out some applications again. Here I think the game is a bit weird. Although it's a toss-up whether you actually get a chance at any major clubs, the national teams start offering contracts very easily once you start to overachieve even a little bit at the top level. The full list of countries offering us contracts: Egypt, Ivory Coast, Morocco, South Korea, Denmark, Israel, Netherlands, Sweden, New Zealand, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay. After these came in, I saw that England, Argentina, France, Germany and Portugal have vacant managerial jobs as well, and if the other offers are anything to go by, we could probably get offered jobs by some or all of them too.

At some point I do want to manage a national team, I'm just not entirely sure if now is the right time. Just for the sake of realism, I also don't want to manage both a (major) country and a club at the same time, so if I did take on a job like Brazil or the Netherlands, I would choose to resign from Fulham. I haven't played FM with a national team in ages, so not 100% sure if it's going to be a lot of fun. Let me know if you think we should take on a national team, and if so, which one!

There haven't been a lot of vacancies at clubs yet, other than the Manchester City one mentioned before. If we want to be mercenary, we can also simply stay at Fulham and see if anything comes up in the 'sacking season' in October or later.
 

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My instinct would suggest to stick with the current team, but it wouldn’t fit the journeyman vibe if we didn’t go around the globe teaching the natives to SCORE SUM’ FACKIN’ GOALS! in the traditional British manner if given the chance.
 

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The national team management side is notoriously barebones in FM (although I haven't played the last releases). You have to sort potential callups with clunky tools, and there's no training or physio recovery component in international tournaments so all the players get completely gassed by the twice-a-week schedule in Euro or World Cup.

Still, it's a semi-fun way to breeze through a couple of years faster. And you must be intrigued by that oranje offer, right?

I'd say that if any of the teams in the countries you've loaded leagues from can double your salary, just go for it.
 

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The national team management side is notoriously barebones in FM (although I haven't played the last releases). You have to sort potential callups with clunky tools, and there's no training or physio recovery component in international tournaments so all the players get completely gassed by the twice-a-week schedule in Euro or World Cup.

Still, it's a semi-fun way to breeze through a couple of years faster. And you must be intrigued by that oranje offer, right?

I'd say that if any of the teams in the countries you've loaded leagues from can double your salary, just go for it.

I found the Netherlands intriguing, sure, but Brazil too. Since their atrocious IRL World Cup record has continued in-game. To wit:

2026: 3rd in the World Cup group stage with Germany, Ghana and the Dominican Republic. Lost 5-1 to Germany, won 4-1 against the DR, lost 2-1 to Ghaniggas. Didn't even qualify as the best 3rd-placed team. Shamefur dispray.
2030: eliminated in the quarter-finals on penalties by Belgium after drawing 1-1. Well, I guess that can happen, but suffice it to say the jogo wasn't very bonito.

Although they did win the Copa America in both 2024 and 2028 in-game, so there's that. But there's something intriguing about how shit they have been in the World Cup since 2002.

This is one thing I like about this kind of save in FM. When I just load with a favourite team of mine, the temptation to job-hop rarely arises. Like if I start with Ajax, then Real Madrid themselves could come knocking, but I still wouldn't make the change, because I'm invested into Ajax at this point, I'm invested in the challenge of overachieving in the CL with Ajax, not in playing Real Madrid and probably winning it once every few years anyway. The idea of the AI ruining my painstakingly built up squad would kill me. But with Journeyman, it's different. Of course you can feel some attachment to Fulham or Livingston or whatever club you're currently at, but it's not like you're ever going to make a CL-class player out of Justin Marvellous Osagie.

Anyway, long story short, I'll give it a couple nights' sleep and then decide. For me there are no bad options here, just different possibilities, even if it's a little immersion-breaking that you're suddenly guaranteed a job with the national team the moment you apply. The weird thing is the game doesn't show any bookies' favourites for national team managers, which just reinforces to me that there's not really a system involved in getting a job, like there is with clubs.
 

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Yeah, I did a journeyman save with a self-imposed rule of never extending my contract and it was a fun one. Get in, sell your underachievers, drive them to the airport, and hear the lamentations of the Fair Weather fans. Repeat every two years like a BoozAllenHamilton consultant.

I was even completely eclipsed by a successor manager! I had a series of nondescript midtable finishes with HSV before departing, but Henk de Jong turned that squad into a perennial Europa League outfit after he got his hands on it.
 

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Yeah, I did a journeyman save with a self-imposed rule of never extending my contract and it was a fun one. Get in, sell your underachievers, drive them to the airport, and hear the lamentations of the Fair Weather fans. Repeat every two years like a BoozAllenHamilton consultant.

I was even completely eclipsed by a successor manager! I had a series of nondescript midtable finishes with HSV before departing, but Henk de Jong turned that squad into a perennial Europa League outfit after he got his hands on it.



We toil all day to push that rock up that hill called FM, but at the end of the day, the Frisian gym teachers steal all our glory. Verskrikkelijk! :negative:

I always remember when Henk made it to the BBC website (as "Henk de John of Cambuurg") in the early days of Covid, because he called it "a disgrace to football" that the whole 2019/20 season was struck off the record when his team was leading the second tier league, so they missed out on promotion (it had a happy ending, because they did it in 2020/21).
 

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