You have to understand, a lot what goes on here in debate is characterization. A nasty habit some developed playing real RPGs back in the day.Vipera said:If I were 100% dedicated to Bethesda, would I be here pointing out the flaws I find in Oblivion? Admittedly, I find few flaws, but that doesn't mean I'm a Bethesda fanboy.
OverrideB1 said:I disagree with what Darkflame and Inziladun said, but agree with Jim Kata's and Vault Dweller's comments -- or possibly its the other way around...Vault Dweller said:What that Inziladun guy said. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about.Inziladun said:Jim Kata said:Darkflame said:Do you ever have any actual opinions of your own, or do you just latch onto other people's like flies to shit? Is it too mentally challenging to explain in your own words why the list at the beginning of this thread is "enthusiasm" and "exaggeration" rather than absolute BS?
I agree with darkflame.
I'm with Jim Kata and Darkflame on this.
I have to agree.HardCode said:Admiral jimbob said:Vault Dweller said:What that Inziladun guy said. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about.Inziladun said:Jim Kata said:Darkflame said:Do you ever have any actual opinions of your own, or do you just latch onto other people's like flies to shit? Is it too mentally challenging to explain in your own words why the list at the beginning of this thread is "enthusiasm" and "exaggeration" rather than absolute BS?
I agree with darkflame.
I'm with Jim Kata and Darkflame on this.
You're probably right.
Ditto.
Not really.Data4 said:Probably. Sucks to not matter, eh?Vipera said:Am I correct in assuming that no one read the reasons I posted?
Vipera said:Am I correct in assuming that no one read the reasons I posted?
This is the truth.Monica21 said:I have to agree.HardCode said:Admiral jimbob said:Vault Dweller said:What that Inziladun guy said. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about.Inziladun said:Jim Kata said:Darkflame said:Do you ever have any actual opinions of your own, or do you just latch onto other people's like flies to shit? Is it too mentally challenging to explain in your own words why the list at the beginning of this thread is "enthusiasm" and "exaggeration" rather than absolute BS?
I agree with darkflame.
I'm with Jim Kata and Darkflame on this.
You're probably right.
Ditto.
I concur.KreideBein said:This is the truth.Monica21 said:I have to agree.HardCode said:Admiral jimbob said:Vault Dweller said:What that Inziladun guy said. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about.Inziladun said:Jim Kata said:Darkflame said:Do you ever have any actual opinions of your own, or do you just latch onto other people's like flies to shit? Is it too mentally challenging to explain in your own words why the list at the beginning of this thread is "enthusiasm" and "exaggeration" rather than absolute BS?
I agree with darkflame.
I'm with Jim Kata and Darkflame on this.
You're probably right.
Ditto.
I agree with Lumpy.davo said:I concur.KreideBein said:This is the truth.Monica21 said:I have to agree.HardCode said:Admiral jimbob said:Vault Dweller said:What that Inziladun guy said. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about.Inziladun said:Jim Kata said:Darkflame said:Do you ever have any actual opinions of your own, or do you just latch onto other people's like flies to shit? Is it too mentally challenging to explain in your own words why the list at the beginning of this thread is "enthusiasm" and "exaggeration" rather than absolute BS?
I agree with darkflame.
I'm with Jim Kata and Darkflame on this.
You're probably right.
Ditto.
That would probaly be yours trully MrSmiley (see his "i't not a dumbing down feature" reply)one of the devs put an end to it with the claim that NPC's would give out directions because they obviously "didn't want the game to play itself lol!"
JrK said:I guess 'we' can't. Oblivion is a milestone in the amount of hype and lies produced to propagandate the game. The sheer hugeness of unbelievability they tried to shove this shit down our throats *and* financially succeeded is confirming what we were already suspecting:
We're doomed.
T'is true that Lumpy is most agreeable.Lumpy said:I agree with Lumpy.davo said:I concur.KreideBein said:This is the truth.Monica21 said:I have to agree.HardCode said:Admiral jimbob said:Vault Dweller said:What that Inziladun guy said. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about.Inziladun said:Jim Kata said:Darkflame said:Do you ever have any actual opinions of your own, or do you just latch onto other people's like flies to shit? Is it too mentally challenging to explain in your own words why the list at the beginning of this thread is "enthusiasm" and "exaggeration" rather than absolute BS?
I agree with darkflame.
I'm with Jim Kata and Darkflame on this.
You're probably right.
Ditto.
I'm not so sure abou that.MINIGUNWIELDER said:T'is true that Lumpy is most agreeable.Lumpy said:I agree with Lumpy.davo said:I concur.KreideBein said:This is the truth.Monica21 said:I have to agree.HardCode said:Admiral jimbob said:Vault Dweller said:What that Inziladun guy said. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about.Inziladun said:Jim Kata said:Darkflame said:Do you ever have any actual opinions of your own, or do you just latch onto other people's like flies to shit? Is it too mentally challenging to explain in your own words why the list at the beginning of this thread is "enthusiasm" and "exaggeration" rather than absolute BS?
I agree with darkflame.
I'm with Jim Kata and Darkflame on this.
You're probably right.
Ditto.
micmu said:That would probaly be yours trully MrSmiley (see his "i't not a dumbing down feature" reply)one of the devs put an end to it with the claim that NPC's would give out directions because they obviously "didn't want the game to play itself lol!"
Also, Kathode (I think) said that many people will be surprised by the awesome dialogue they've put in.
As it turned out, he meant it in a negative way...
Another thing is, Howard claimed in many interviews that the game will constantly remind you "you are doing the right stuff, keep going forward, keep going forward, etc...".
And by that he obviously meant those next gen walkthrough message boxes and unbearably railroading plotlines and individual quests.
Anaglyph said:I'd like to believe that they were simply misguided and lacking objectivity (coz I quite liked a couple of them), but it looks to me as if they're all a bunch of lying liars lying their lies.
Jim Kata said:It is one thing from the PR clowns, but you expect your actual programmers at least to not outright lie to your face....