Which programming language did you choose and why?

[Rewrite]

Those languages are alll shit.
You should contact me and I will license you my own custom, high-level creation.
Its called Hashtagdefine and its has LLVM support, highly portable, stdlib, etc. Everything from C/C++!
Greatest Syntax Of All!

 

[Tramboi]

If you want to build a complex IA, for example in RTS games, then go for some language allowing great flexibility and easy writing of algorithms, such as Racket, Common Lisp or OCaml. They are designed to allow you to write code quickly and efficiently without having to deal with overly technical matters such as memory management.

Just wanted to disagree on this point (having worked on several AAA RTSs) : those games have many many things to manage so you need good-ish algorithms AND a good constant factor (sprinkled with parallelism would be better), so I'd definitely use C, C++, Rust, or Common Lisp there, but would avoid Racket and OCaml.

 

[Hag]

If you want to build a complex IA, for example in RTS games, then go for some language allowing great flexibility and easy writing of algorithms, such as Racket, Common Lisp or OCaml. They are designed to allow you to write code quickly and efficiently without having to deal with overly technical matters such as memory management.

Just wanted to disagree on this point (having worked on several AAA RTSs) : those games have many many things to manage so you need good-ish algorithms AND a good constant factor (sprinkled with parallelism would be better), so I'd definitely use C, C++, Rust, or Common Lisp there, but would avoid Racket and OCaml.

Oh ok, wasn't aware of that. Maybe I was overeaching with Racket, but I thought OCaml could have pretty good performances.

 

[Tramboi]

Oh ok, wasn't aware of that. Maybe I was overeaching with Racket, but I thought OCaml could have pretty good performances.

Yes single-thread performance would be quite good indeed with OCaml!
But multicore OCaml is still not a thing (I think).

 

[Rewrite]

Where are all the auto-parallel super-concurent languages I heard about 15 years ago when the dualcores came (all over my face)?
I have 8 cores, why do I use OpenMP and think about data and racism?

 

[Rewrite]

Tour of our 250k line Clojure codebase (redplanetlabs.com)
roffles, they copied my macro language!!!1
Claimed a"100X decrease in application development cost" but then deleted it and I didnt care to snapshot, shame.
I'd cut off my pinky finger if they gave me 100X speed up. You wrote that app in 100 hours? Here is how you can do it in 1!
CLOJURE!

 

[Krice]

JBlow is working Jai, which, people claim, will be a better C++ for game development.

Let's hope so. I think it's frustrating to think about these modern languages that still fail in some aspects, because the language developers don't think things in practical way. It's like they don't even want to create a language for actual use, possibly their background is linux which has always been more specific than "mundane" desktop programs.

 

[Rewrite]

This is now a code thread!

Here is a shithouse thought I had for a regurgitated blogpost:
The famously "hardest thing in comp sci" being the "naming of things (and cache invalidation)" is ideologically/fundamentally the same as choosing the degree of "object" generalization, the degree of A-bstraction in APIE.
So object abstraction in typical OO languages is the hardest thing architecturally. And is impossible to do right on first try and remains impossible once the object environment starts to change, if you are too general/universal.

You can go from:
int convert_float_to_int(float); // which takes a float and converts to integer ...or does it...?
to ultimately:
void* convert_data(void*); // which takes abstract "data" and shits out abstract "data", very abstract, very OO factory generator base class

And the Art is finding the proper degree of generalization, "naming" it right.
And "naming" in OOP is harder.

Conclusion? Actionable Intelligence? -> idunnolol

 

[Catacombs]

You can go from:
int convert_float_to_int(float); // which takes a float and converts to integer ...or does it...?
to ultimately:
void* convert_data(void*); // which takes abstract "data" and shits out abstract "data", very abstract, very OO factory generator base class

You can use \[code\] tags to format your code.

 

[Rewrite]

Here is a cute anti-C++ OOP things I ran across:
https://toit.io/product/device
A startup SaaS that picked a common !specific! piece of hardware, an mcu with a wifi chip ESP32 (lookitup if you dont know),
developed a custom language (lock in, lol) where you pay $0.10 per MB data transfer through """Cloud""" roffles,
but the cute thing is, they limit inheritance to 1 level heh, smart:
https://docs.toit.io/language/objects-constructors-inheritance-interfaces/
Interfaces
A class can only extend one class, but can implement several interfaces. Like classes, interfaces act as types in Toit's type system, but unlike classes, they do not include implementations for the non-static methods they declare.

 

[Rewrite]

why the fuck would i format 2 lines?

 

[Catacombs]

why the fuck would i format 2 lines?

Because whatever shit code you wrote is easier to read with code tags:

// which takes a float and converts to integer ...or does it...?

int convert_float_to_int(float);

// to ultimately:

void* convert_data(void*);

// which takes abstract "data" and shits out abstract "data",
// very abstract, very OO factory generator base class

 

[Rewrite]

Because whatever shit code you wrote is easier to read with code tags:

suck my dick faggot

 

[Catacombs]

suck my dick faggot

We've got a Big Boy™ here.

 

[Krice]

Anti-C++ rants are somewhat annoying, because I find that it's not C++ that is making (game) development difficult, it's pretty much everything else. Also those rants are quite dishonest or even worse the person who is ranting doesn't know how to code.

 

[Rewrite]

suck my dick faggot

We've got a Big Boy™ here.

fucking a, zoomer cuck, i was riting c in notepad.exe wihtout any dark theme, syntax highlights, m o n o s p a c e d font, language server, debugging, compiler error messages, and i liked it
while you hurr durr about 2 func decls, holy shit, having the !nerve!, go ask for [fag] tag...

 

[Rewrite]

https://loup-vaillant.fr/articles/deaths-of-oop

move over oop, its lambda time!
no gooby pls!
xD

 

[Catacombs]

fucking a, zoomer cuck, i was riting c in notepad.exe wihtout any dark theme, syntax highlights, m o n o s p a c e d font, language server, debugging, compiler error messages, and i liked it
while you hurr durr about 2 func decls, holy shit, having the !nerve!, go ask for [fag] tag...

I simply suggested code tags, and you sperg out like this is a /g/ thread. Seek help.

 

[Rincewind]

This is what hard drugs do to people.

 

[Hag]

This is what hard drugs do to people.

I've seen addicts much more articulate than this guy.

On the other hand, I'd be curious to read some of his code, must be a curiosity. Rewrite , would you share some of your code repo or sources ? I'm sure we can all learn from your knowledge.

 

[Rewrite]

I simply suggested code tags

and i told you discretely to fuck off and shut the fuck up
but you didnt get it on the first try
here is me simply suggesting it to simpleton a third time (a charm): suck my dick and kys

 

[Rewrite]

I'd be curious to read some of his code, must be a curiosity.

oh it aint pretty breh (but dont tell anyone) but how about you post some nice lines of yours?

 

[Rewrite]

here is some python i had fun with, i remember because there was mistake in it that """test driven development""" pointed out,
and i had to debug lambdas,
have you tried to set a breakpoint on a lambda?:

P = lambda a, b, c: sum(((-1)**k) * comb(a,k,True) * comb((c-b*k-1),a-1,True) for k in range(0, max(1,(c-a)//b+1)))
...
for m in range(0, x * y + 1): mean += max(0, m+mind-u) * (P(y, x, m) / x**y)

 

[Hag]

I'd be curious to read some of his code, must be a curiosity.

oh it aint pretty breh (but dont tell anyone) but how about you post some nice lines of yours?

Ok, I'm game.
Here is the main logic file of my current game project :

Spoiler

#include <stdio.h>
#include "../include/linmath.h"
#include "bigh.h"
#include GLAD_PATH
#include SDL_PATH


void reset_game_state(GameWorld* GW, GameVars* GV, GameData* GD) {
   GW->level = GD->levels[GV->current_level];
   GV->game_state = IN_PROGRESS;
   GV->continues = 3;
   GV->bricks_left = GW->level.bricks_count;
   GV->score = 0;
}

void set_texture(GameData* GD, int index, unsigned int texture) {
   GD->res.textures[index] = texture;
}
void set_shape(GameData* GD, int index, Shape shape) {
   GD->res.shapes[index] = shape;
}

void game_init(GameWorld* GW, GameVars* GV, GameData* GD) {
   float w = (float)GD->width;
   float h = (float)GD->height;
   unsigned int shader_sprite = shader_create("src/shaders/vs_cube.glsl", "src/shaders/fs_sprite.glsl");
   unsigned int shader_text = shader_create("src/shaders/vs_text.glsl", "src/shaders/fs_text.glsl");
   unsigned int shader_tile = shader_create("src/shaders/vs_cube.glsl", "src/shaders/fs_tile.glsl");

   mat4x4 mat_proj;
   mat4x4_identity(mat_proj);
   mat4x4_ortho(mat_proj, -(float)GD->interface_size, w, 0.0f, h, -10.0f, 10.0f);
   // mat4x4_perspective(mat_proj, deg_to_rad(45), w/h, 0.1f, 100000.0f);
   
   glUseProgram(shader_sprite);
   shader_set_int(shader_sprite, "image", 0);
   shader_set_mat4x4(shader_sprite, "projection", mat_proj);
   Shape basic_obj = sprite_init(shader_sprite);
   
   glUseProgram(shader_text);
   shader_set_int(shader_text, "image", 0);
   shader_set_mat4x4(shader_text, "projection", mat_proj);   
   Shape text_obj = sprite_init(shader_text);
   
   glUseProgram(shader_tile);
   shader_set_int(shader_tile, "image", 0);
   vec2 tile_size = {1.f, 900.f/64.f};
   shader_set_vec2(shader_tile, "tex_ratio", tile_size);
   shader_set_mat4x4(shader_tile, "projection", mat_proj);   
   Shape tiled_obj = sprite_init(shader_tile);
   
   set_texture(GD, GO_BLOCK,        texture_load("img/block.png"));
   set_texture(GD, GO_BLOCK_SOLID, texture_load("img/tex2.png"));
   set_texture(GD, GO_BACKGROUND,    texture_load("img/tile_grass1.png"));
   set_texture(GD, GO_PADDLE,        texture_load("img/paddle2.png"));
   set_texture(GD, GO_BALL,        texture_load("img/goatball.png"));
   set_texture(GD, GO_TEXT,       texture_load("img/font.png"));
   set_texture(GD, GO_INTERFACE,    texture_load("img/tile_border.png"));
   set_texture(GD, GO_POPUP,        texture_load("img/popup.png"));
   
   set_shape(GD, GO_EMPTY,        basic_obj);
   set_shape(GD, GO_BLOCK,        basic_obj);
   set_shape(GD, GO_BLOCK_SOLID,    basic_obj);
   set_shape(GD, GO_BACKGROUND,    basic_obj);
   set_shape(GD, GO_PADDLE,        basic_obj);
   set_shape(GD, GO_BALL,            basic_obj);
   set_shape(GD, GO_TEXT,            text_obj);
   set_shape(GD, GO_INTERFACE,    tiled_obj);   
   set_shape(GD, GO_POPUP,        basic_obj);
   
   init_text(GW, GV, GD);
   init_interface(GW, GV, GD);
   reset_paddle(GW, GV, GD);
   reset_ball(GW, GV, GD);
   
   GV->wireframe = 0;
   GV->timing = 1.0f;
   GV->paddle_max_speed = 1.7f;
   GV->paddle_acceleration = 0.8f;
   GV->current_level = 0;
   GV->score = 0;
   GV->score_bonus = 0;
   
   reset_game_state(GW, GV, GD);
   // GW->popup.state = ENABLED;
   // GW->text_popup.m.state = ENABLED;
}


void game_update(GameWorld* GW, GameVars* GV, GameData* GD, float dt) {
   
   switch (GV->game_state) {
       case IN_PROGRESS :   
           GV->timing = 1.0f;
           GW->ball.timing = 1.0f;
           ball_move(GW, GV, GD, dt);
           paddle_move(GW, GV, GD, dt);
           if (GV->bricks_left == 0) {
               GV->game_state = WON;
           }
           for (int i=0; i < GW->level.obj_count; ++i) {
               WO_update(GW, GV, GD, &(GW->level.bricks[i]), dt);
           }
           break;
       case WON :
           GW->popup.state = ENABLED;
           GW->text_popup.m.state = ENABLED;
           if (GV->score > GD->levels[GV->current_level].highscore) {
               GD->levels[GV->current_level].highscore = GV->score;
           }
           ball_move(GW, GV, GD, dt);
           break;
       case NEXT :
           GW->popup.state = DISABLED;
           GW->text_popup.m.state = DISABLED;
           if (GV->current_level < GD->level_count - 1) {
               ++ GV->current_level;
               // GW->level = GD->levels[GV->current_level];
               reset_game_state(GW, GV, GD);
               reset_paddle(GW, GV, GD);
               reset_ball(GW, GV, GD);
           } else {
               GW->background.rotation += 0.5f;
           }
           break;
       case OUT :
           GV->continues -= 1;
           if (GV->continues <= 0) {
               GV->game_state = LOST;
           } else {
               reset_ball(GW, GV, GD);
               reset_paddle(GW, GV, GD);
               GV->game_state = IN_PROGRESS;
           }
           break;
       case PAUSE1 :
           // GV->timing = 0.0f;
           GW->ball.timing = 0.0f;
           ball_move(GW, GV, GD, dt);
           paddle_move(GW, GV, GD, dt);
           for (int i=0; i < GW->level.obj_count; ++i) {
               WO_update(GW, GV, GD, &(GW->level.bricks[i]), dt);
           }
           break;
       case LOST :
           GV->game_state = QUIT;
           break;
       default :
           break;
   }
}

void game_render(GameWorld* GW, GameVars* GV, GameData* GD) {
   if (GV->wireframe == 1) {
       glPolygonMode(GL_FRONT_AND_BACK, GL_LINE);
   } else {
       glPolygonMode(GL_FRONT_AND_BACK, GL_FILL);
   }
   
   shape_draw(GD, &GW->interface);
   shape_draw(GD, &GW->background);
   shape_draw(GD, &GW->paddle);
   
   for (int i=0; i < GW->level.obj_count; ++i) {
       shape_draw(GD, &(GW->level.bricks[i]));
       // shape_draw(GD, &(GD->levels[GV->current_level].bricks[i]));
   }
   shape_draw(GD, &GW->ball.m);
   
   shape_draw(GD, &GW->popup);
   
   sprintf(GW->text_level.text, "LEVEL %d/%d", GV->current_level+1, GD->level_count);
   WO_text_draw(GD, &GW->text_level);
   
   sprintf(GW->text_score.text, "Score");
   WO_text_draw_xy(GD, &GW->text_score, -180.f, 310.f);
   sprintf(GW->text_score.text, "%d", GV->score);
   WO_text_draw_xy(GD, &GW->text_score, -180.f, 240.f);
   sprintf(GW->text_score.text, "Top ");
   WO_text_draw_xy(GD, &GW->text_score, -180.f, 170.f);
   sprintf(GW->text_score.text, "%d", GD->levels[GV->current_level].highscore);
   WO_text_draw_xy(GD, &GW->text_score, -180.f, 100.f);
   
   if (GV->score > GW->level.highscore) {
       sprintf(GW->text_popup.text, "Nouveau record !\n%d points !", GV->score);
   } else {
       sprintf(GW->text_popup.text, "Ouais ! Ca vous fait %d points bien merites.", GV->score);
   }
   WO_text_boxdraw(GD, &GW->text_popup, 450.f);
}

Come on everybody ! Code showdown !

 

[Twiglard]

Virgin `unsigned int' user vs the chad `unsigned'.