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Who are the best modern cRPG developers?

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It's not best porn simulator. Best RPG developer
 

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Larian vs. nobodies and their coping supporters.
Perfect summary.

A bunch of coping boomers that ignore the fact Larian just released the most critically acclaimed (also by players if we check steam user reviews) and most commercial successful crpg EVER.

Larian is king and the rest of the garbage studios do not even come close, that's the reailty, the rest is pure cuckdex cope.
 

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It's maddening that D&D is more popular than ever and the entire crpg world still looks like a wasteland.
Some people even had the balls to say that it's ''impossible'' to create another game on the level of BG3, for fucks sake.
As for the question: Nobody.
 
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It's maddening that D&D is more popular than ever and the entire crpg world still looks like a wasteland.
Some people even had the balls to say that it's ''impossible'' to create another game on the level of BG3, for fucks sake.
As for the question: Nobody.

I watched the gameplay, and I don't understand the hype
 

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Modern Obsidian is a shadow of itself.
I think everyone agrees that Obsidian peaked with New Vegas.
I think one of their main problems is that they're good at playing with other people's franchises, but they never managed to make (or buy) THEIR franchise.
They did make their franchise, it's Pillows of Returnity (including two games, and the upcoming Awoked), and it's shit.

Obshitian turned to ass precisely when they came up with their own franchise.
 

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Modern Obsidian is a shadow of itself.
I think everyone agrees that Obsidian peaked with New Vegas.
I think one of their main problems is that they're good at playing with other people's franchises, but they never managed to make (or buy) THEIR franchise.
They did make their franchise, it's Pillows of Returnity (including two games, and the upcoming Awoked), and it's shit.

Obshitian turned to ass precisely when they came up with their own franchise.
Because literally every single one of their competent writers left right before or during the development of PoE1.
 

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These days, there are relatively few CRPG developers who have made more than a single game. Off the top of my head, I can think of Obsidian, inXile, Larian, Owlcat, Harebrained, Bioware, Bethesda, and Iron Tower - and the latter three only barely qualify. I'd be hard-pressed to call any of them great. If I had to pick one it would be Larian, but it certainly doesn't reach the heights of the best old studios.

That said, there are plenty of good CRPGs around. They just take so long to make now that in the five-to-ten year span that most developers of the past made their great games, developers today usually only manage a single game. Mainly because almost all existing developers who are worth a damn are tiny. In a way, it's better like this, but at the same time, you don't get to be in the club with Sirtech and Black Isle off the back of one game.
 

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Modern Obsidian is a shadow of itself.
I think everyone agrees that Obsidian peaked with New Vegas.
I think one of their main problems is that they're good at playing with other people's franchises, but they never managed to make (or buy) THEIR franchise.
They did make their franchise, it's Pillows of Returnity (including two games, and the upcoming Awoked), and it's shit.

Obshitian turned to ass precisely when they came up with their own franchise.
Because literally every single one of their competent writers left right before or during the development of PoE1.
Left... or got pushed out by Soyer, because he decided that no fun disagreement with his boring-ass "creative" vision is allowed?
 

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It's not best porn simulator. Best RPG developer
BG3 is 4 minutes of "porn", 40 hours of inventory sorting. It's a warehouse manager simulator. Belgian government funded the game to ensure the key infrastructure is properly staffed.
 
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Using the list from the "best of all time", these are the game developers who got the most voted from codex since 2010. All of these devs has 2 or more games, and both games or more were voted as the "best of all time" by codex. I did not include dev with only one game.

  • Obsidian Entertainment
  • Owlcat Games
  • FromSoftware
  • Iron Tower Studios
  • CD Projekt RED
  • Heroic Fantasy Games
  • Harebrained Schemes
  • Larian Studios
 
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I wasn't unsure to include Netcore Games with Tales of Maj'Eyal, because this guy made three DLCs/Expansions after Tales of Maj'Eyal release, and Stygian Software with one DLC/Expansion for Underrail.

And if we're being picky, we can remove FromSoftware from the list.
 

The Bishop

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It's not best porn simulator. Best RPG developer
BG3 is 4 minutes of "porn", 40 hours of inventory sorting. It's a warehouse manager simulator. Belgian government funded the game to ensure the key infrastructure is properly staffed.

Like 2 hours, 4 minutes is how long you took to finish :lol::lol::lol:

https://www.ign.com/articles/all-ba...en-captured-and-they-add-up-to-two-full-hours
I obviously meant within a single playthrough. Unless you actually went out of your way to watch all the stuff, in which case my condolences I guess?
 

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Far from a cost effective way of producing 2 hours of porn. And how much of that is bears/twinks? Definitely not the best developer.
 

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2018 Avernum 3: Ruined World
2021 Geneforge 1 - Mutagen

Yes, they are remakes, but yes they are still modern and better than the woke slop other studios shit out.
 

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These days, there are relatively few CRPG developers who have made more than a single game. Off the top of my head, I can think of Obsidian, inXile, Larian, Owlcat, Harebrained, Bioware, Bethesda, and Iron Tower - and the latter three only barely qualify.
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CDPR, duh. And (regretfully dead) Reality Pump (Two Worlds 1&2, Vendetta: Curse of the Raven's Cry). Also Fool's Theory (Seven, Thaumaturge, working on Witcher Remake).
I'd be hard-pressed to call any of them great.
Obsidian and Bioware were, CDPR still is, despite some mistakes.
If I had to pick one it would be Larian, but it certainly doesn't reach the heights of the best old studios.
Gotta play BG3. New Divinities didn't impress me so much, I enjoyed the old ones more.
That said, there are plenty of good CRPGs around. They just take so long to make now that in the five-to-ten year span that most developers of the past made their great games, developers today usually only manage a single game. Mainly because almost all existing developers who are worth a damn are tiny.
true, indies like Stygian or Atom Team are saving the genre.
In a way, it's better like this, but at the same time, you don't get to be in the club with Sirtech and Black Isle off the back of one game.
Fortunately Atom made 2 games and is making a 3rd one, Stygian is producing Underrail sequel. So there is hope.
 
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2018 Avernum 3: Ruined World
2021 Geneforge 1 - Mutagen

Yes, they are remakes, but yes they are still modern and better than the woke slop other studios shit out.

I didn't include some developers like AtomTeam because the only game codexers vote for is ATOM RPG, I don't see Trudograd in the list.

The only recent game from Spiderweb that people here in codex voted for is Avernum: Escape from the Pit (2012), I didn't see Avernum 3 or Geneforge 1.

Maybe Codex should make a better cRPG list and give more visibility to those cRPGs instead something like Dark Souls, which, "best of all time" has 4 games made by FromSoftware, 1, 2, 3 and ElderRing. I would guess that only Dark Soul 1 is the best, and the other games are included in the list because they were new when the vote was open. Instead, add rules that prevent new games during the voting.
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
These days, there are relatively few CRPG developers who have made more than a single game. Off the top of my head, I can think of Obsidian, inXile, Larian, Owlcat, Harebrained, Bioware, Bethesda, and Iron Tower - and the latter three only barely qualify.
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CDPR, duh. And (regretfully dead) Reality Pump (Two Worlds 1&2, Vendetta: Curse of the Raven's Cry). Also Fool's Theory (Seven, Thaumaturge, working on Witcher Remake).
I'd be hard-pressed to call any of them great.
Obsidian and Bioware were, CDPR still is, despite some mistakes.
If I had to pick one it would be Larian, but it certainly doesn't reach the heights of the best old studios.
Gotta play BG3. New Divinities didn't impress me so much, I enjoyed the old ones more.
That said, there are plenty of good CRPGs around. They just take so long to make now that in the five-to-ten year span that most developers of the past made their great games, developers today usually only manage a single game. Mainly because almost all existing developers who are worth a damn are tiny.
true, indies like Stygian or Atom Team are saving the genre.
In a way, it's better like this, but at the same time, you don't get to be in the club with Sirtech and Black Isle off the back of one game.
Fortunately Atom made 2 games and is making a 3rd one, Stygian is producing Underrail sequel. So there is hope.
I was judging them on their output in the modern era, since that's the period we're talking about, which I think of as the last decade or so. Within that time, Obsidian haven't made anything that would make me consider them a great developer (although truthfully all I've played after New Vegas is about 30% of Pillars 1). Same with Bioware, and Wikipedia says Reality Pump shuttered in 2015 so they're out as well. Fool's Theory is borderline for me as I think of Seven as more of an action adventure than an RPG. Anyway, if we're talking total lifespan, Obsidian would be my choice for best surviving dev. Too bad it's in name only.

Also you're right, I forgot about Atom.

Also also, everything CDPR has made is shit.
:creamyblood:
 

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I think the dex got baited into thinking the WL2 and PoE Kickstarter would be the start of a renaissance of cRPGs, but nothing really happened. CRPGs are still a tiny, almost non-existent segment of gaming. We've got to just get used to the reality that CRPGs are just not a popular genre.
 

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I think the dex got baited into thinking the WL2 and PoE Kickstarter would be the start of a renaissance of cRPGs, but nothing really happened. CRPGs are still a tiny, almost non-existent segment of gaming. We've got to just get used to the reality that CRPGs are just not a popular genre.
I think it's funny that Sawyer said things like "The audience didn't abandon CRPGs. Publishers did." and then Obsidian abandoned CRPGs in order to make shooters, survival games, and visual novels.
 

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