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Decline Why are RPG fans so uncommonly inept?

Do you think people are more hostile to...

  • both complexity and difficulty in RPGs than in other genres

    Votes: 20 23.8%
  • difficulty, but not complexity

    Votes: 6 7.1%
  • complexity, but not difficulty

    Votes: 12 14.3%
  • neither complexity nor difficulty - but some other related factor

    Votes: 3 3.6%
  • neither complexity nor difficulty, demands to RPGs are nothing special

    Votes: 4 4.8%
  • neither complexity nor difficulty, people are *less* hostile to these in RPGs

    Votes: 5 6.0%
  • König Kamerad

    Votes: 34 40.5%

  • Total voters
    84

Kyl Von Kull

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
I don't understand why someone would buy Kingmaker then complain it's to hard and complex. Do people not watch gameplay/video footage of the game there going to buy? Like I don't care if you hate Kingmaker but don't buy shit you know you aren't going to like/understand.

I'm looking at the game's Steam page, there's nothing there to hint at the difficulty. The description does not hint at that, the negative reviews mostly say buggy/boring/slow. What's there to dissuade your average Skyrim lover from buying the game? And don't say that you need to go read reviews, any Steam sale makes the game cheap enough so that you don't care about research much. In contrast, Celeste's page has a "difficult" game tag, "hardcore platforming challenges" and "where every death is a lesson" in the description. All the reviews say how it's "one of the hardest" and the trailer video shows that levels are hard at first glance. You've been warned, buyer.

The game has (extremely customizable) difficulty settings, so...? You can put it on easy or story mode and play through the whole thing without learning how the systems work. And the spider swarm thing they patched after a day or two so the questgiver would tell you how to damage them.
 
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I think that the feeling that there is less complaining from people playing other genres is because we are more exposed to RPGs so we encounter those kind of people more often.
 

Roguey

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that should make the players better, not worse

It can go either way. Autists only care about mastering things they care about; if they don't consider "being good at games/a particular game" something worth caring about, they'll always be terrible at it.
 
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elminage: gothic has the absolute perfect amount of complexity and abstraction. It's a thing of fucking beauty.
 

Zed Duke of Banville

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