World of Warcraft: The War Within

[Stormcrowfleet]

I played during Classic, BC and a bit WOTLK. However, I'd mostly be playing alone and I really don't have much gaming time, so it would be a waste of money to pay for a sub. Hence why I'd play this game if it was not sub-based. Maybe I could just spawn a local server and play alone, but one of the biggest fun is the instances in a team...

 

[Keshik]

Tried some PvP, I forgot that healing in BGs is nowhere near fun. It got annoying when everyone had the addon to target healers rather than have any sense, and everyone's packing so much CC.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Tried some PvP, I forgot that healing in BGs is nowhere near fun. It got annoying when everyone had the addon to target healers rather than have any sense, and everyone's packing so much CC.

Not everyone uses the Top Target addon (particularly in the new solo queue RBGs), and not everyone is discord listening to a target caller, so queue teams can't switch targets on a dime to kill off a target before the healer gets them. So it's easiest to just focus the healer.

 

[abija]

Do delves scale to your item level? Are they beyond retarded?

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Do delves scale to your item level? Are they beyond retarded?

I don't know how the level scaling works for players 70-80, but there are 12 tiers of difficulty and tier 8 gives the best gear for level 80 characters, especially if you do the bountiful delves (each day, 2 delves have an additional chest at the end which can be opened with a timegated key to get 603 gear). They also contribute to the great vault and you can get up to 616 gear from there if you do enough tier 8 delves.

The delves are a neat diversion, more chill than being rushed by the mythic+ timers. There are delves where the rooms are enveloped in void magic, so you have to stay within the confines of a candle to avoid dying, but the candle has limited fuel so you have to consider your steps. There is a delve where spiderweb aoes spread and you have to use a flamethrower to burn them. There is another delve that is underwater where your air meter is running out and you have to find air bubbles to replenish your breath. My only real gripe is that delves were advertised as being about exploration, so I thought it was going to be more adventure/puzzle gameplay like the Zskera Vaults and Niffen Seeking. But it turned out to be more combat like scenarios/island expedtions/torghast.

 

[abija]

I'm not talking about scaled to level but item level. There's no difference in delve 8 performance between ilvl 540 and 600 (and about 20 lvls on bran). Meanwhile in other content character is multiple times stronger.

 

[Late Bloomer]

Items missing from your guild bank?

https://boundingintocomics.com/vide...se-guild-banks-were-empited-by-recent-glitch/

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/guild-bank-missing-items-update/1963451

 

[Dr1f7]

good, fuck guilds

 

[J1M]

I have had a string of bad or weird luck with retadins in mythic groups — to the point I find myself hesitant to invite any. One Paladin kept spamming “go” on a 6+ Boralus on packs that should not be rushed and died on the final boss. Another left mid-pull on 5+ Grim Batol because the timer was too tight (you can still get loot though); thus bricking the key. Years ago, I had a retadin brick a key because someone told him to use his interrupts.

People keep doing this because there are no consequences for failure. Their key isn't the one being bricked. They aren't losing score. They can quickly get into another PUG group. Also seeing lots of people AFKing and bringing bad attitudes with them into the new 8v8 solo queue RBGs.

I have been playing FF11 Horizon again and the difference in people's attitudes is night and day. You lose exp upon death and can delevel, becoming unable to equip gear with level requirements. There is a high amount of time and some money required to travel to the location and buy buff food. The server has 2k to 4k people online and only a few dozen people on the same step of their journey as you. You can't sabotages groups like that or else word is going to get around and people won't invite bad actors, and you become stuck. I have played for 300 hours and I don't think I have ever seen anyone throw a group like I see happen in WoW. IIRC there was some discussion a while back (either here or on another forum) comparing the attitudes you see in WoW vs FF14, and while I agree that FF14's community is not sunshine and rainbows and you see bads there too, there just seems to be something about WoW. Haven't seen anywhere near as much crap like this in GW2 either. Maybe the focus on hyper competitive endgame has weeded out a lot of pleasant people out of the game and pugging. The solution is to join a community like "WoW Made Easy" where people with bad attitudes who sabotage keys get kicked from the community, so you have committed, pleasant people playing the game together.

The treadmill in WoW is too obvious and too much of the focus. I have no motivation to get gear level X because I know it will be replaced like clockwork by catch-up gear with the next patch in 2 months.

It also feels like the content is either trivial or time gated by gear acquisition.

In FFXI the progress feels permanent (job level, equipment that you save for level-capped encounters, travel shortcuts, advanced job unlocks) and even simple things are a struggle that require player cooperation. Really nice that Horizon provides a form of time capsule/game preservation because there's an entire generation now that will never see a game like this made in their lifetime.

 

[Maculo]

I have had a string of bad or weird luck with retadins in mythic groups — to the point I find myself hesitant to invite any. One Paladin kept spamming “go” on a 6+ Boralus on packs that should not be rushed and died on the final boss. Another left mid-pull on 5+ Grim Batol because the timer was too tight (you can still get loot though); thus bricking the key. Years ago, I had a retadin brick a key because someone told him to use his interrupts.

People keep doing this because there are no consequences for failure. Their key isn't the one being bricked. They aren't losing score. They can quickly get into another PUG group. Also seeing lots of people AFKing and bringing bad attitudes with them into the new 8v8 solo queue RBGs.

I have been playing FF11 Horizon again and the difference in people's attitudes is night and day. You lose exp upon death and can delevel, becoming unable to equip gear with level requirements. There is a high amount of time and some money required to travel to the location and buy buff food. The server has 2k to 4k people online and only a few dozen people on the same step of their journey as you. You can't sabotages groups like that or else word is going to get around and people won't invite bad actors, and you become stuck. I have played for 300 hours and I don't think I have ever seen anyone throw a group like I see happen in WoW. IIRC there was some discussion a while back (either here or on another forum) comparing the attitudes you see in WoW vs FF14, and while I agree that FF14's community is not sunshine and rainbows and you see bads there too, there just seems to be something about WoW. Haven't seen anywhere near as much crap like this in GW2 either. Maybe the focus on hyper competitive endgame has weeded out a lot of pleasant people out of the game and pugging. The solution is to join a community like "WoW Made Easy" where people with bad attitudes who sabotage keys get kicked from the community, so you have committed, pleasant people playing the game together.

The treadmill in WoW is too obvious and too much of the focus. I have no motivation to get gear level X because I know it will be replaced like clockwork by catch-up gear with the next patch in 2 months.

It also feels like the content is either trivial or time gated by gear acquisition.

In FFXI the progress feels permanent (job level, equipment that you save for level-capped encounters, travel shortcuts, advanced job unlocks) and even simple things are a struggle that require player cooperation. Really nice that Horizon provides a form of time capsule/game preservation because there's an entire generation now that will never see a game like this made in their lifetime.

I would make an exception for mythic+, where the mythic score and seasonal titles are what matter.

While gear level helps, there is only so much it can do to save you from some of these mechanics. The amount of fears, stuns, casts, stacking bleeds, stacking dmg+ debuffs, and one-shot abilities. For example, the vortex ability from the last boss of Arakara, 20-30 ilvl or more isn’t going to save you from that ability unless you do the mechanic correctly. Further, you are competing against other players for the top spot.

 

[J1M]

Resets every 2 months like everything else.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Blizzard has just dropped a $90 mount on the cash shop (just as the 20th anniversary patch released). It is a recolor of the FOMO Brutosaur mount with an auction house NPC from BFA that costed 5 million gold ($700 in WoW tokens) which was removed at the end of BFA.

WoW token price is currently skyrocketing, is currently at 252,513, up from the 195k it had been holding at since TWW's launch up until this morning. If you bought a WoW token for 195k gold, it will soon cross the break-even point and become profitable. Hopefully the token price goes up above 300k. Momentum might be slowing for the day as East Coast players go to bed and West Coast players stop logging in, and then it will fall until tomorrow. Historically, when it comes to these spike events, it is usually not the first day that is the peak, but the second or third as people find out something new is in WoW and they dust off WoW to catch up, so it might be best to wait until tomorrow at noon/afternoon.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I'm not sure what blows me away more: that there's a $90 video game mount, that people buy it, or that people spend this much time and energy on a video game stock market for fake money when you could do that with the real stock market and make real money.

 

[Reever]

Blizzard has just dropped a $90 mount on the cash shop (just as the 20th anniversary patch released). It is a recolor of the FOMO Brutosaur mount with an auction house NPC from BFA that costed 5 million gold ($700 in WoW tokens) which was removed at the end of BFA.
WoW token price is currently skyrocketing, is currently at 252,513, up from the 195k it had been holding at since TWW's launch up until this morning. If you bought a WoW token for 195k gold, it will soon cross the break-even point and become profitable. Hopefully the token price goes up above 300k. Momentum might be slowing for the day as East Coast players go to bed and West Coast players stop logging in, and then it will fall until tomorrow. Historically, when it comes to these spike events, it is usually not the first day that is the peak, but the second or third as people find out something new is in WoW and they dust off WoW to catch up, so it might be best to wait until tomorrow at noon/afternoon.

It's ~430k on EU right now. I had a wow token saved up so I just dumped that and made a bit of profit. I saw some people speculating that the price will continue to go up until jan when the mount leave the store but I am not that invested in this shit.

I'm not sure what blows me away more: that there's a $90 video game mount, that people buy it, or that people spend this much time and energy on a video game stock market for fake money when you could do that with the real stock market and make real money.

Lower starting investment I assume and the fact that they're doing this in a video game that they like.
What blows me away more is that they push this shit after releasing one of the buggiest patches I've seen in a while with a 20th anniversary event that is FOMO'd to hell and the people are still eating it up. Than again, it doesn't really matter the outrage, whales will be whales.

 

[abija]

Whales? That's not even a little dolphin...

Whales in wow buy boosts for hard to get items.

 

[Caim]

Imagine paying one and a half times the price of a AAA game just to get one long boy.

 

[Abesolus]

Blizzard has just dropped a $90 mount on the cash shop (just as the 20th anniversary patch released). It is a recolor of the FOMO Brutosaur mount with an auction house NPC from BFA that costed 5 million gold ($700 in WoW tokens) which was removed at the end of BFA.

WoW token price is currently skyrocketing, is currently at 252,513, up from the 195k it had been holding at since TWW's launch up until this morning. If you bought a WoW token for 195k gold, it will soon cross the break-even point and become profitable. Hopefully the token price goes up above 300k. Momentum might be slowing for the day as East Coast players go to bed and West Coast players stop logging in, and then it will fall until tomorrow. Historically, when it comes to these spike events, it is usually not the first day that is the peak, but the second or third as people find out something new is in WoW and they dust off WoW to catch up, so it might be best to wait until tomorrow at noon/afternoon.

this is one of the reasons i dont play this game anymore. i cant fathom playing the same thing as these chumps, i dont like bullying at all. but public shaming needs to make a comback, these "people" are beyond morons. these are the type of people that would be place on the town square and laughed at. imagine flexing your wallet. Jesus crhist, what a garbage game and community.

 

[abija]

You would be the one public shamed in town square irl. Dumbfucks are the large majority. Flexing your wallet is one of the most wide spread human behaviors.
Just how fucking delusional are you?

 

[Thalstarion]

Narcissism is an encouraged personality trait at this point, unfortunately. Most media actively encourages it - promoting the idea that if you get something new and shiny sooner rather than later than it's somehow an achievement to celebrate as opposed to a tacky display of wealth.

That being said, you can at least curate your experience and who you choose to interact with and hang out with. Most games reward such behaviour other than the increasingly rare 'one and done' titles that are complete at launch with no DLC or microtransactions.

 

[J1M]

I'm not sure what blows me away more: that there's a $90 video game mount, that people buy it, or that people spend this much time and energy on a video game stock market for fake money when you could do that with the real stock market and make real money.

Or that those same people will turn around and complain that $70 is too much for a new game.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

 

[Morgoth]

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Who is the Night Elf lady with the Hearthstone cards on the bottom right? Is she a Hearthstone character or from one of those explorers questlines in Dragonflight?

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Blizzard has just dropped a $90 mount on the cash shop (just as the 20th anniversary patch released). It is a recolor of the FOMO Brutosaur mount with an auction house NPC from BFA that costed 5 million gold ($700 in WoW tokens) which was removed at the end of BFA.

WoW token price is currently skyrocketing, is currently at 252,513, up from the 195k it had been holding at since TWW's launch up until this morning. If you bought a WoW token for 195k gold, it will soon cross the break-even point and become profitable. Hopefully the token price goes up above 300k. Momentum might be slowing for the day as East Coast players go to bed and West Coast players stop logging in, and then it will fall until tomorrow. Historically, when it comes to these spike events, it is usually not the first day that is the peak, but the second or third as people find out something new is in WoW and they dust off WoW to catch up, so it might be best to wait until tomorrow at noon/afternoon.

this is one of the reasons i dont play this game anymore. i cant fathom playing the same thing as these chumps, i dont like bullying at all. but public shaming needs to make a comback, these "people" are beyond morons. these are the type of people that would be place on the town square and laughed at. imagine flexing your wallet. Jesus crhist, what a garbage game and community.

Cucks enjoy being shamed.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Cringeworthy 55 minute long stream.

• MoP Classic happening some time in 2025
• They're going to do yet even more Vanilla servers
• 10.1 patch zone is the underground Goblin city of Undermine. Looks like that private server that had a Goblin city with highways. Also includes a GW2-esque ground mount, a Goblin Hot Rod that can drift and travels much faster than old ground mounts.
• Midnight will have player housing in some form (20 years late better than never eh?), no idea how it will compare to LotRO or FF14 or ESO or GW2.
• No new patch zone for 11.2. You are paying more for less!

Is that Neltharion on the Bayard Wu art?