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World of Whorecraft: Battle for Asseroth

Discussion in 'MMO(RP)G / Online Discussion' started by Zed, Oct 21, 2013.

  1. Israfael Arcane

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    That depends, sometimes CC can save a huge amount of time even if you are overgeared for the heroics / normal. It's essential in challenge modes, some of the mobs melee tank for 60-90k per swing (insane amount, if you look at pre-squish tank DTPS). I personally like new dungs, they are somewhat easier than the average cata heroic dungeons (there's nothing that is as challenging as SFK was back in 4.0 days), but much harder than MoP lol-faceroll dungeons. Challenge mode can be brutal, second boss in Skyreach has insane hps requirements (our healer did ~40k hps when we finally downed him), some trash (even on hc) requires steady interrupting (two void elementals in SBG will wipe the party very fast if no one interrupts)
     
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  2. Hoodoo It gets passed around. Dumbfuck

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    whats the garrisons or w/e like and how they figure into endgame?
     
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  3. Avellion Erudite

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    Imagine if FarmVille and Assassin's Creed Brotherhood both got drunk one night, and spent said night together. Garrisons would be the result of said encounter.

    They come into endgame because the legendary ring requires a keep and they can be used to craft consumables for you.
     
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  4. Angthoron Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Not quite only that. Missions and dwarven bunker can be a source of "extra roll" tokens, and there's some other stuff as well, like providing the mats, yep, or (wohoo) having your own personal enchanter station without having the actual skill. Plus dungeon/apexis dailies. Dungeon dailies can be sweeeeet, those that played a bit of MoP might remember Shard of Madness (an endless flask item basically) - now you get a similar item from a quest. 200 of all stats for an hour, on a 15 minute CD? Don't mind, don't mind at all. Doesn't persist through death though.

    But yeah, otherwise it's a mix of Farmville and that Assassin's Creed Something feature. It's quite addicting for a while, though, since it does translate into ingame benefits (got a nice trinket from a mission, for example).

    By the way, a good idea to get the best out of the garrison (mainly resource missions, of course) is to have most of your followers at L100, but then one at 91, one at 94 and one at 96, so you get metric fucktons of missions spawning for you all the time. This translates into a much higher chance of getting garrison resource missions, and if you have a few Scavenger trait dudes, you'll be swimming in infinite resource pretty damn soon.
     
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  5. Avellion Erudite

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    They struck it with a nerf stick and now it only adds 100 to each stat for an hour. They havent updated the tooltip though.
     
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  6. Angthoron Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Oh? That's fucking lame. There's no way it will replace proper flasks, even if you'd slap on 500 stat on it, because wipes and persisting through death. Might as well make the effect be "persist through death" then.
     
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  7. Israfael Arcane

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    That depends what you mean. Some missions can award 645 gear (if your follower(s) are geared high enough), there's also a chance to get a 645 piece from Inn quests at lv3, and obviously profession buildings boost the daily production of hexweave cloth / ingots / taladite crystals by 6-10 (so you can basically do double the amount of the mats). But the question if that's necessary to excel in raids has no definite answer now — Blizzard claimed raids are (comfortably) tuned around normal (for flex) and heroic (for old normals / new "hc") dungeon gear, but it may be different in reality.
     
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  8. Israfael Arcane

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    It is the same as the crystal of insanity from MOP now, nothing really outrageous. In any case, 200 stat flasks are easy to come by (just 4 herbs), so it's even more accessible to craft them now than ever.
     
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  9. TedNugent Arcane

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    Certain challenge modes (UBRS) are major buttfuck right now.

    Each trash pull should involve CC. Mechanics are do or die. Tank damage is high. DPS reqs are actually quite low in challenge modes. Enough to where a DPS can die halfway through and you can still kill the boss.

    Gear scales to 630. It appears to be appropriately tuned for 630 except for the DPS requirements on bosses being a bit low.

    Heroics were difficult at 610 which was the gating for queue, but they are now faceroll at 630+. There's not much questing content, I would say around half to a third of what was in MoP. Most of your time right now is going to be spent farming heroics or running your stupid garrison. BTW garrisons mean all professions can make potions and enchants.
     
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  10. TedNugent Arcane

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    Flasks cost around 11 gold on the Auction House right now.

    They also nerfed the new Crystal. It says 200 to all stats but it's actually half that, 100 to all stats, they just didn't update the tooltip yet. Also, the 250 to stat flasks are what you're actually going to want for anything serious. 100 strength on a 15 minute cooldown versus 250 strength that persists through death. Basically the new crystal is good for soloing.

    Also, I'm fucking mad because Blackhand oneshots Doomhammer in this expansion pack, but this was Doomhammer in canon:
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    Metzen, you cunt, fix it.
     
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  11. Wilian Arcane Patron

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    Just did UBRS CM today. Holy fuck that instance was exactly what sort of 5 man end game content I want for gear progression. I'm glad they added the box with 640 item for finishing so it remains worthwhile for a while.

    There was only 3 issues with it. First boss electric things weren't indicative enough of their range, first boss's pushback/slowball in the lightning rod run wasn't visible enough and last boss hitbox was too small. Aside from that, perfect for a REAL end game small group content.
     
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  12. abija Prophet

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    It's not exactly range issue with the circles but lag, you want to run close to one going ahead of you not the one behind. Common issue with that type of mechanic.
     
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  13. TedNugent Arcane

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    They nerfed the fuck out of UBRS in the last two days.

    First Warlord Zaela's knockback was removed. Then they reduced the number of protodrakes from 3 to 2. They also removed the add phase at 20% on Tharbek, in my opinion the most challenging part of the encounter.

    And still our healer managed to stand in the flames on Zaela and was hardcasting for at least 4 seconds. On the 15th attempt.
     
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  14. Cyberarmy Love fool Patron

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    It is good to see that Blizzard haven't changed, or the bad players without a a clue...
     
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  15. Avellion Erudite

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    Blizzard havent changed indeed

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    Once again the new armor sets are the same overdesigned trash. I think it speaks volumes that the best sets in the expansion are from the War Mill/Dwarven Bunker.
     
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  16. Avellion Erudite

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    Speaking of which, did you guys see the new BELF models?

    Not as bad as humans, and male BELFs finally got nipples.

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    Of the new ones it is probably one of the best/least disgraceful. Still, I find that the female belf's faces are rather horselike and emotionless.

    Not that anyone here plays a belf anyway... I hope.
     
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  17. Wilian Arcane Patron

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    The butt sure got upgraded. And now they look less anorectic and more toned.
     
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  18. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Brazilian butt lift.
     
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  19. Talby Arcane Patron

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    Warlords of Draenor plot summary;
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  20. Avellion Erudite

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    Brazillian eh?

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    No, I did not post someone's dick, I posted a Atretochoana eiselti. Therefore image is SFW
     
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  21. Xenich Cipher

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    Well, when I think of complex tanking, I think of LoTRO Guardian, Warden, Champion (before they tried to emulate WoW). I think that was the best tanking tools game I have ever seen, aside from some interesting implementations in RIFT when I played.
     
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  22. Avellion Erudite

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    It is not so much that it is complex, as much as it is the active tanking style that makes it so good.

    That said, I fear they made a mistake in the recent buffs the spec got. Instead of addressing the real issues the spec had such as chi issues, forcing everyone to go with Serenity. Blizzard instead opted to double the amount from guard (which is fine) and increased the ammount of stagger by 10%, essentially turning mastery into a god stat. Now, thanks to stagger alone, I only take 40% of any given hit, and mastery also scales much better than armor.

    Edit: Chi Explosion has some usage in challenge mode. But overall, it is still outclassed by Serenity.
     
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  23. J1M Arcane

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    So you intentionally sought out 10-year old content that you don't enjoy that has been intentionally sped up half a dozen times because the developers recognize that it is a speed bump to the real gameplay at max level... and they are the retarded ones?
     
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  24. Xenich Cipher

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    I tried my max level characters and started doing some of MoP. Well... nothing changed, same retarded content design, same easy mode play and a character development system that is designed for those who love to roll their face over the keyboard and win. The same core aspects of play that destroyed the game existed. Nothing will change with the latest release (I have read and youtubed the features), I have been there... done that and your rose tinted glasses aren't going to suddenly make this game change that it is the epitome of MMO decline.

    No need to act all WoWtard and go on the attack though, I mean, you are acting like a little piss-ant groupie who feels that any dislike for their game is an affront to them. You like it, fine... great... so does million of other people with ADD. /shrug
     
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  25. Wilian Arcane Patron

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    Spoken like someone who did not try end-game of WoD
     
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