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Wormwood Studios Drama - Victor Pflug trying to get exclusive ownership of Primordia

Victor Pflug

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But yeah - I'd rather know if anyone is familiar with Contra Proferentem in relation to New York contract law, or 3rd party rights (or lack of) in relation to the same - that's what I would love to discuss/pick apart.


I'll try your game if I get a free key.


I won't "stroke your ego" with free game keys - but I do know someone who does that in order to grease people up actually.
 

Victor Pflug

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"Grease them up before what?" - you might ask.

Why, before shoving their turgid member up that persons ass, of course. :D

I said before I have screenshots that would make anyone's toes curl.
 

Beans00

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But yeah - I'd rather know if anyone is familiar with Contra Proferentem in relation to New York contract law, or 3rd party rights (or lack of) in relation to the same - that's what I would love to discuss/pick apart.


I'll try your game if I get a free key.


I won't "stroke your ego" with free game keys - but I do know someone who does that in order to grease people up actually.


I don't have an ego on here, I'm here for the respect and free games.
 

Victor Pflug

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I could post some more information about my contract absolutely - but I would rather hear which one of these is true from Mark as I'm not here to entertain anybody.

I'm only posting any of this here in a silly misnamed & misguided thread because my design only posts were deleted from my Primordia thread Inifini.
 

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I could post some more information about my contract absolutely - but I would rather hear which one of these is true from Mark as I'm not here to entertain anybody.

I'm only posting any of this here in a silly misnamed & misguided thread because my design only posts were deleted from my Primordia thread Inifini.

You failed your PER check with the first pic
 

Verylittlefishes

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I could post some more information about my contract absolutely - but I would rather hear which one of these is true from Mark as I'm not here to entertain anybody.

I'm only posting any of this here in a silly misnamed & misguided thread because my design only posts were deleted from my Primordia thread Inifini.

But he is talking here about two different matters 1,5 years apart...
 

Durq

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What reason did Dave give for not showing Victor the sales numbers?
 

Victor Pflug

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What reason did Dave give for not showing Victor the sales numbers?
That he wanted me to provide him an accountant's details which is clearly against the provisions for that.

Yeah the provision makes sense NOT for me to have to do that.

Dave's denial of it?

Nope.
 

Verylittlefishes

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What reason did Dave give for not showing Victor the sales numbers?
That he wanted me to provide him an accountant's details which is clearly against the provisions for that.

Yeah the provision makes sense NOT for me to have to do that.

Dave's denial of it?

Nope.

I'm sorry, you asked him to give you the sales numbers and he did what? What accountan's details? What does it mean?
 

Victor Pflug

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This was before I contacted a law firm to represent me - he just denied the audit for that reason, then later, others.

ALL reasons mixed together in DG's lawyers response, eventually when I finally got one after so many flat obstinate denials of the plain facts and simple, basic responsibility.

Dave Gilbert has made a big fucking mess of this all, now, IMO. But hey.

I'm just a layman. I just have facts, emails, and a contract with my publisher.
 

Victor Pflug

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What reason did Dave give for not showing Victor the sales numbers?
That he wanted me to provide him an accountant's details which is clearly against the provisions for that.

Yeah the provision makes sense NOT for me to have to do that.

Dave's denial of it?

Nope.

I'm sorry, you asked him to give you the sales numbers and he did what? What accountan's details? What does it mean?
What accountant, indeed?

The contract is very clear on that point - I may "personally" audit him.

No if's and or buts about it.

It's in black and white.

So yeah. WTF right.
 

Verylittlefishes

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This was before I contacted a law firm to represent me - he just denied the audit for that reason, then later, others.

ALL reasons mixed together in DG's lawyers response, eventually when I finally got one after so many flat obstinate denials of the plain facts and simple, basic responsibility.

Dave Gilbert has made a big fucking mess of this all, now, IMO. But hey.

I'm just a layman. I just have facts, emails, and a contract with my publisher.

DaveGilbert

you are reading it anyway lol

dave.jpg
 

Durq

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So Victor asked Dave to show the sales numbers.

And Dave responded with something like, I need your accountant's details first.

And Victor didn't want to provide Dave with the accountant's details.

Is that the gist of it?
 

Verylittlefishes

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This was before I contacted a law firm to represent me - he just denied the audit for that reason, then later, others.

ALL reasons mixed together in DG's lawyers response, eventually when I finally got one after so many flat obstinate denials of the plain facts and simple, basic responsibility.

Dave Gilbert has made a big fucking mess of this all, now, IMO. But hey.

I'm just a layman. I just have facts, emails, and a contract with my publisher.

DaveGilbert

you are reading it anyway lol

View attachment 52848

ok I see you busy now, sorry

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Victor Pflug

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So Victor asked Dave to show the sales numbers.

And Dave responded with something like, I need your accountant's details first.

And Victor didn't want to provide Dave with the accountant's details.

Is that the gist of it?
If you read the part about audit provisions it states clearly I may audit Dave myself (ie ask him for some data).
 

Victor Pflug

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Oh and asked for devs tags because he somehow "accidentally" failed to ever give me those on Steam over a decade - I think dev tags on Steam means you get access to some data for your game?

Yeah.
 

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