Vapourware WOTC restricting content creation in new OGL - Paizo launches competing OGL - lol cancelled

[JamesDixon]

Also the current president of WotC is one Cynthia Williams, making this the second time a woman named Williams drives D&D into the fucking ground.

Holy mother of god. It can't be real

I looked her up and couldn't find if Cynthia was related to Lorraine.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Also the current president of WotC is one Cynthia Williams, making this the second time a woman named Williams drives D&D into the fucking ground.

Holy mother of god. It can't be real

I looked her up and couldn't find if Cynthia was related to Lorraine.

Eh, matters little. The coincidence is hilarious as it is.

 

[JamesDixon]

Also the current president of WotC is one Cynthia Williams, making this the second time a woman named Williams drives D&D into the fucking ground.

Holy mother of god. It can't be real

I looked her up and couldn't find if Cynthia was related to Lorraine.

Eh, matters little. The coincidence is hilarious as it is.

Oh it is hilarious I agree, but it would be sooo much sweeter if she was Lorraine's daughter or niece. Then we can blame the Williams clan for sinking D&D twice in 30 years.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Also the current president of WotC is one Cynthia Williams, making this the second time a woman named Williams drives D&D into the fucking ground.

Holy mother of god. It can't be real

I looked her up and couldn't find if Cynthia was related to Lorraine.

Eh, matters little. The coincidence is hilarious as it is.

Oh it is hilarious I agree, but it would be sooo much sweeter if she was Lorraine's daughter or niece. Then we can blame the Williams clan for sinking D&D twice in 30 years.

And for WotC not being learning animals.

 

[Caim]

Also the current president of WotC is one Cynthia Williams, making this the second time a woman named Williams drives D&D into the fucking ground.

Holy mother of god. It can't be real

I looked her up and couldn't find if Cynthia was related to Lorraine.

Eh, matters little. The coincidence is hilarious as it is.

Oh it is hilarious I agree, but it would be sooo much sweeter if she was Lorraine's daughter or niece. Then we can blame the Williams clan for sinking D&D twice in 30 years.

And for WotC not being learning animals.

Can't find anything about a relation either, but I did find out a few things about what she did before joining WotC:

https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...oints-New-Leadership-for-Wizards-of-the-Coast

- She was the general manager and VP of the Gaming Ecosystem Commercial Team for Xbox, making her an agent of decline.
- She used to work for Amazon in the e-commerce direct-to-consumer business Fulfillment, making her responsible for even more ruthless exploitation of the wagies that work there.

 

[JamesDixon]

Can't find anything about a relation either, but I did find out a few things about what she did before joining WotC:

She's part of a patent application as well. I think the patent is about digital to physical fullfilment.

 

[Delterius]

Also the current president of WotC is one Cynthia Williams, making this the second time a woman named Williams drives D&D into the fucking ground.

Holy mother of god. It can't be real

I looked her up and couldn't find if Cynthia was related to Lorraine.

Eh, matters little. The coincidence is hilarious as it is.

Oh it is hilarious I agree, but it would be sooo much sweeter if she was Lorraine's daughter or niece. Then we can blame the Williams clan for sinking D&D twice in 30 years.

It's like those schizo theories about how the world is just a struggle between neoplatonists and aristotelians except the house of Williams swore revenge against RPGs during the satanic panic.

 

[Stokowski]

Now that Dungeons & Dragons has self-immolated, I'm so glad I trademarked Prisons & Dinosaurs, Basements & Wyverns, Oubliettes & Serpents, and Caves and Reptiles.

A pity that Mazes and Monsters was already taken though.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Now that Dungeons & Dragons has self-immolated, I'm so glad I trademarked Prisons & Dinosaurs, Basements & Wyverns, Oubliettes & Serpents, and Caves and Reptiles.

A pity that Mazes and Monsters was already taken though.

Gaols & Wyrms is mine and mine alone!

Still waiting to hear back about Stockades & Stirges.

 

[Sitra Achara]

Staking claim to Bugs & Bugbears

 

[JamesDixon]

Staking claim to Bugs & Bugbears

Is it only available in Bulgaria? They certainly love to bugger.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Ok calling dibs on Brigs and Barbarians

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

Now that Dungeons & Dragons has self-immolated, I'm so glad I trademarked Prisons & Dinosaurs, Basements & Wyverns, Oubliettes & Serpents, and Caves and Reptiles.

A pity that Mazes and Monsters was already taken though.

Shouldn't these be alliterated? You know like Castles & Crusaders, Tunnels and Trolls, Mutants & Masterminds? So Prisons & Poltergeists, Basements & Basilisks etc.

 

[lukaszek]

orcs&men

 

[JamesDixon]

orcs&men

That sounds like a new version of FATAL....

 

[Caim]

orcs&men

 

[Modron]

 

[mediocrepoet]

orcs&men

A game from the time when men were men and women were... orcs.

Spoiler

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

also:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1615028555447943168.html

Recently WotC, tried to screw over the D&D community, which blew up in their face, and forced WotC to issue a public apology.

In this apology they allegedly lied, claiming the whole thing was a draft.

I’m a 3rd party publisher myself, I allegedly know how they approached us
with this “draft”, as they claim.

You would receive an email from WotC saying that they wished to discuss the future of D&D with you, but because this was sensitive information, you would have to sign an NDA to attend that meeting.


a meeting with the big guys, of course you attend.

There, it is reported that they would tell you that they are making a new license for D&D and cancelling the previous one.


And you better sign that new license right now, because if not, you’ll have to sign the public license, which is even more of a nightmare.

To paraphrase, this them pointing a gun at you:
« hey, you can work with me, or I’ll pull the trigger, but it’s your choice really. »


Afterwards it is reported that you’d receive that special contract, and because of the NDA, you could’t talk, or ask for help.

And finally when this all leaks, thanks to a few brave people, WotC execs allegedly have the balls to go and call it a draft?


Does that mean that the couple of creators that were forced to sign this license are free from it now? Since it’s just a draft?

Full disclaimer I haven’t signed an NDA or contract, but I know people who have.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Shouldn't these be alliterated? You know like Castles & Crusaders, Tunnels and Trolls, Mutants & Masterminds? So Prisons & Poltergeists, Basements & Basilisks etc.

Gaols and Gelatinous Cubes

 

[Acrux]

Donjons and Drakes

 

[JamesDixon]

also:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1615028555447943168.html

Recently WotC, tried to screw over the D&D community, which blew up in their face, and forced WotC to issue a public apology.

In this apology they allegedly lied, claiming the whole thing was a draft.

I’m a 3rd party publisher myself, I allegedly know how they approached us
with this “draft”, as they claim.

You would receive an email from WotC saying that they wished to discuss the future of D&D with you, but because this was sensitive information, you would have to sign an NDA to attend that meeting.


a meeting with the big guys, of course you attend.

There, it is reported that they would tell you that they are making a new license for D&D and cancelling the previous one.


And you better sign that new license right now, because if not, you’ll have to sign the public license, which is even more of a nightmare.

To paraphrase, this them pointing a gun at you:
« hey, you can work with me, or I’ll pull the trigger, but it’s your choice really. »


Afterwards it is reported that you’d receive that special contract, and because of the NDA, you could’t talk, or ask for help.

And finally when this all leaks, thanks to a few brave people, WotC execs allegedly have the balls to go and call it a draft?


Does that mean that the couple of creators that were forced to sign this license are free from it now? Since it’s just a draft?

Full disclaimer I haven’t signed an NDA or contract, but I know people who have.

I don't care what happens to all those left wing companies. If they're moronic enough to hire Marxists and not know the law concerning game mechanics they deserved to be fucked over.

 

[Ismaul]

Paizo announces it's own OGL in partnership with a lot of other third party publishers.

https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6si7v

LOL

Somehow WotC always manages to shoot itself in the foot and make Paizo relevant again.

They took away their D&D magazines licenses and shat the bed with the 4E GSL, so Paizo created Pathfinder to survive. And now that PF 2nd is underperforming, Wizards goes and makes them the hero of the common rpg fan, the ones who will save the OGL. Hilarious.

Gotta give it to Paizo, they know to strike when the OGL is hot.

 

[Tyranicon]

Oubliettes and Ogresses.

It's german dungeon porn + Fiona rule 34.

Now I just sit and wait for royalties.

 

[Bloodeyes]

So if current day DnD fans are abandoning WoTC is it time to embrace DnD? The may problem with the modern game is its fans. If they were gone it would be fine.