Crispy™ WoW Rebirth: a vanilla private server

[Machocruz]

Made a dark elf hunter - Kwanmerica.

 

[Ninjerk]

I know the human mage level 10 quest is bugged, maybe that's what he's talking about. So far I've had minimal issues, mostly pathing-related and those are only mildly annoying. I've run into all of 3 bugged quests that couldn't be completed out of who knows how many, 2 of which I probably wouldn't have been able to solo anyway so it's not really a big loss. That is fairly incredible for a private server.

I believe the pathfinding is different enough that it makes certain frost mage AoE leveling spots impossible because the mobs can teleport to you and daze you.

AOE grinding is cheap anyway. Just quest like a real man.

All in all, it was all "we're aware of the issue and it is pending a fix sometime never" sort of thing. Really, I don't know why Valkyrie doesn't get the good PR it deserves. It just seems more competently made.

What do you want them to say? That they're aware of the issue and they're not planning on fixing it? Or that they weren't aware of the issue until you enlightened them? As someone playing on this server, I don't really care if the first 10 levels are rocky because mob HP is wrong or something (which it isn't). You only spend a few hours getting to level 10, while the last 20 levels take days. Like all private servers, there are only a handful of people working on scripting and they have to prioritize what they work on.

Questing is often shit.

 

[Metro]

Made a dark elf hunter - Kwanmerica.

ITS A NIGHT ELF.

 

[Wilian]

Yeah it happened sometime in 2013, and the site never documented the outage. Both server and site just went down, disappeared, and the site two weeks later (or more) came up like nothing happened. No updates, nothing. By that time I was already on Valkyrie.

I'd still like to know when this alleged downtime happened, as I've been playing there quite actively for 3 years soon and I'm well aware of all the downtimes that happened from November 2011 DDoS attack, to July 2012 server ownership transfer to another DDoS attack at November 2012 when the server was moved to cloud service to mitigate DDoS after which it didn't happen. I can't remember any prolonged downtime for 2013, something I noted jokingly to the server's owner as we missed our annual traditional November issues. Besides those there have been one 2 days downtime in 2013 when transferring server to newer hardware and another this year which lasted 1 day for same reason.

I also remember the GM admitting the player DPS vs. monster health ratio at low levels was all wrong, when I compared how many shots it took in WoW to down various monsters at the low-leveling stage. He said they were mostly focusing on higher level fixes.

I wonder which GM did that because it sounds like outright lie, considering all the devs and server owner has always told people that no fix is too small or too large, no matter level and I've not noticed any issues with mob HP. Maybe you're mistaking Rebirth's mob HP as too high, when Valkyrie is possibly based on official Beastiary data of all mobs. Data that is "out"dated for leveling because the book was released after 2.3 nerf to vanilla leveling.

As for them concentrating only on high level stuff, I can quote you last patch notes which are at least equally fixing both end game and leveling content and a link to patch archive from last year where there is quite obvious focus to fixing game overall, not just the end-game as you seem to imply. I guess the data lies.

http://www.therebirth.net/Forum/ForumSection/6
Patchnotes:
General

• Fishing should have the following changes: Certain fish should now be on a time schedule, and seasonal schedule, where some fish will not be available at certain times. Those fish include Sunscale, Nightfin, Lightning Eel, Plated Armorfish, Summer Bass, and Winter Squid.
  
  
• Containers caught while fishing should now always have loot.
  
  
• Linked mobs should no longer aggro the whole zone, unless they are supposed to.
  
  
• The correct responses to party related queries should appear on the client.
  
  
• Reputation won't be divided amongst group members anymore.
  
  
• Ranged mobs should no longer throw blue/white cubes.
  
  
• Improvements to mob/pet pathing
  
  
• Channeled spells now have priority on the last debuff slot and will not count towards the debuff limit. If a channeled spell gets knocked off it will not be interrupted.
  
  
• Knockback effects should be way smoother.

Items/Mobs

• Kurdrum Barleybear and Yaelika Farclaw were reminded that AQ is not out yet and as such, Deadly Poison V is not sold anymore.
  
  
• Loch, Large Loch, and Deviate Crocolisks should now correctly drop Crocolisk Meat.
  
  
• Searing Ghouls in Andorhal has had their level range raised, HP adjusted, melee damage lowered, attack speed lowered.
  
  
• Witherbark Bloodling should not drop items anymore.
  
  
• Lord Skwol now has armor.
  
  
• Lord Kazzak now has armor and his damage is increased. HP lowered slightly.

Quests

• "Shy-Rotam", "The Great Masquerade", and "What is Going On" should now give group credit completion.
  
  
• The Monogrammed Sash should now always drop off Mok'Rash.
  
  
• "Supplies to Auberdine" in Ashenvale should work better; Escort speed has been reduced, mobs should despawn when the event fails, and the completion should occur near the proper .location
  
  
• "Data Rescue" in Gnomeregan should function properly and the objects should no longer despawn.
  
  
• The quest "Rise, Obsidion!" should work.
  
  
• You should now be able to accept the quest "Return to Tymor" after finishing "Arcane Runes" as intended.
  
  
• The final quest of the line "A Dark Threat Looms" should now be obtainable at correct level.
  
  
• The quest "Stinky's Escape" should be working.

Classes

Druid

• The spell Soothe Animal should no longer aggro the mob it is cast on.
  
  
• Enrage should now put the player in combat for the duration of the buff.

Hunter

• Pets shouldn't get overwritten anymore when using the stable while not having the pet called.
  
  
• The Giantstalker 5/8 bonus should work now.

Mage

• Fix for the Combustion exploits.
  
  
• The Netherwind 3/8 bonus should now give the correct threat modifiers.
  
  
• The buff received from the trinket Fire Ruby (quest reward) should now only be consumed by fire spells.

Priest

• The spell Holy Nova (priest) should no longer cause aggro.
  
  
• Priests' spirit buffs now stack with Bottled Alterac Spring Water or Blessed Sunfruit Juice.

Rogue

• The talent Blade Flurry should now not have the first targets armor applied on the second target as well.

Warrior

• Bloodrage should now put the player in combat for the duration of the buff.

Professions

Engineering

• Explosive Sheep should work once more.

Instances

Stratholme

• Majority of the mobs in the Stratholme are now rebalanced to their Blizz-like values. In most cases, attack speeds were too fast and HP too high, this has now been corrected.
  
  
• Ramstein the Gorger now has slower attack speed.

UBRS

• Solakar Flamewreath should now aggro properly during Father Flame event.

Blackwing Lair

• Broodlord Lashlayer added.
  
  
• Added a 5 second cooldown to the Calm Dragonkin spell that Razorgore has. (The cooldown will not be shown correctly client side, but the controlling player will get the message "Your pet is in combat.").

Molten Core

• Lava Annihilators and Firelords share their spawn spot.
  
  
• Ancient Core Hounds, Molten Giants and Molten Destroyers have had their level ranges adjusted.
  
  
• Sons of Flame in Ragnaros encounter has had their damage increased substantially.
  
  
• Baron Geddon has his armor roughly doubled.
  
  
• Lava Spawn level adjusted, armor added, damage lowered, HP lowered.
  
  
• The Core Hounds in MC should now be forced to despawn if the instance is reloaded with Magmadar dead.
  
  
• Baron Geddon, Core Hounds, and Lava Surgers have had changes to their speed and movement paths corrected.

Zul'Gurub

• Spawns of Mar'li now has armor, hit harder and has more HP.
  
  
• Ohgen of the Mandokir fight now has substantially less HP and his attacks do less damage. He now has armor.
  
  
• Bloodlord Mandokir now has little more HP and damage.
  
  
• High Priestess Arlokk now has armor, as well as her HP increased and damage adjusted.

Battlegrounds

Alterac Valley

• Loot reworked.
  
  
• Missing NPCs added, extra NPCs deleted.
  
  
• Patrols for Horde and Alliance added.
  
  
• Quests fixed.
  
  
• Mines reworked (mob placement not finished though).
  
  
• Aerie Assault implemented.

Warsong Gulch

• Flag handling should work properly when both flags are dropped, no matter which flag is picked up.

What do you want them to say? That they're aware of the issue and they're not planning on fixing it? Or that they weren't aware of the issue until you enlightened them? As someone playing on this server, I don't really care if the first 10 levels are rocky because mob HP is wrong or something (which it isn't). You only spend a few hours getting to level 10, while the last 20 levels take days. Like all private servers, there are only a handful of people working on scripting and they have to prioritize what they work on.

+ Rebirth is completely free and do not accept donations in any form so unlike most private servers, they don't hire people to do the stuff like other realms do (and yet most of their quality is questionable at best). It's a passion project of the people.

 

[Metro]

Oh snap, it's on.

 

[Jadeite]

Good job! Let us all support real MMOs.

Unfortunately I quit these games a long time ago. They simply take too much time, and I have never found one that was captivating enough. WoW is a good single-player game, but that is not what it is supposed to be.

The last good experience I had was Project 1999, leading a group of four or five people through Befallen. Now that was intense, and worth every second, even the late hours we spent into the night recovering our corpses, so that we would not lose all our items. It was almost surreal, playing something like that nowadays.

 

[Steelburgh]

Just to answer the recurring question, the Rebirth downtime (which was only a couple days of recurring outages, not 2 weeks of continuous downtime) occurred due to a server issue with the increasing population in early March. You can see exactly when it happened in the population graph someone helpfully posted on page 6 or 7. The devs upgraded the server with the cloud hosting company and it's been humming along and increasing population back to, and beyond where it was before the issue.

Also, the website and forums are back up and functioning well. Forum features are being implemented so a few things don't work yet, but they will soon. Hope you decide to play on The Rebirth and enjoy!

 

[Metro]

Advertising plant!

 

[Wilian]

Oh dear Steelburgh, you don't know where you have dipped your toes into.

 

[Xor]

I don't see a problem, he's just giving information. We let the guy advertising the FFXI server get away with that without the plant tag.

 

[Metro]

I was joking.

 

[shihonage]

Well, they fixed the cold spell bug.

 

[Xor]

I was joking.

It's hard to tell what's serious and what's a joke on the internet nowadays

 

[Metro]

Well, they fixed the cold spell bug.

Great, you can get back to your cold mage.

 

[shihonage]

I did, but then I remembered that life is finite.

Hate it when that happens.

 

[Ninjerk]

Ice-magicking* mage

 

[Angthoron]

Refrigiration caster*

 

[Wilian]

Refrigiration caster*

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[Wilian]

Some update on Rebirth population and the pending, unfinished patch notes for next patch!

Also on another note, ED confirmed turning into pay2win server, where you can buy gear that's half a tier behind from latest tier so as it stands, Rebirth even after 3 years remain the only true server with no donations, buyable gear or anything of the sort! This probably means that thanks to latest surge, only more and more population will surge in.

This has been addressed by the staff by obtaining new hardware that can support up to 5000 simultaneous players with ease, probably double of that.

General

• It shouldn't be possible to shoot yourself with a wand or auto-shoot by switching targets.
• Argent Dawn rep fixed (killing mobs gives proper rep).
• Cenarion Hold rep fixed (killing mobs gives proper rep).
• If an NPC does 50 % or more of the damage to a creature no loot or experience will be rewarded.
• Spells should no longer turn green in the trainer lists when the client updates the interface.
• A new aggro mechanic got implemented. Mobs will reset based on timer and damage rather than range.
• Leave/join announcements are disabled by default.

Creatures/NPCs

• Dirk Thunderwood should no longer pretend to be Dirk Swindle.
• Rotting Worms no longer give XP.
• Mana Surge no longer give XP.
• Non-Elite mobs have been slowed down to allow possibility of players to escape.
• Seeker Cromwell walk speed adjusted.
• Scout Manslayer walk speed adjusted.
• Kimberly Hiett in Lakeshire shouldn't sell Explosive Sheeps anymore.

Items

• Searing Infernals and Thundering Boulderkins have had their Heavy Stone drop rates adjusted.
• Twilight Cultists now drop less of their garments.
• Encrypted Twilight Texts drop slightly less.
• The Zandalarian Hero Medallion should work correctly.
• The Twilight Cultist items will now correctly be removed when a Windstone is used.
• Drakefire Amulet should not be disenchantable
• The hunter trinket Renataki's Charm of Beasts from ZG should now function correctly.

Quests

• "Rise, Obsidion!" should be working.
• "The Smoldering Ruins of Thaurissan" should be working.
• "Wandering Shay" should be working.
• Set required level of "A Portable Power Source" to 58.
• "Of Forgotten Memories" should have a fixed amount of spawns
• "The Scent of Lar'korwi" should have more working nests, each mate should only drop one gland
• "CLUCK!" should be working and chickens shouldn't lay dinosaur eggs anymore
• Set required level of "Baron Aquanis" to level 21 as the quest starting item "Strange Water Globe" says
• Heart Of Hakkar, OOX beacons, Glowing Shard and Winterfall Ritual Totem shouldn't disappear when abandoning the quest
• Highlord Taelan Morgraine from the quest "In Dreams" should now have an appropriate walk and run speed.
• The two royal guards will reset properly when a player fails at "The Attack!"
• The Lunaclaw Spirit of the quest "Body and Heart" should despawn correctly
• Adding quest completion text for "Speak with Anastasia"
• Mux's Quality Goods will always contain a variable amount of Goblin Rocket Fuel for the quest "Hunting for Ectoplasm".
• Karang's Banner of the quest "King of the Foulweald" will not be consumed on use anymore.
• The quest "The Archbishop's Mercy" should no longer be repeatable.

Classes

Druid

• Faerie Fire should correctly be counted/displayed as skilled in the talent tree.

Warlock

• The talent Nightfall should work correctly

Professions
Engineering

• Target dummies should now be lootable even if not killed by a creature.

Instances
Blackrock Depths

• The chest in the Tomb of the Seven should no longer be spawned before the event is completed.
• Emperor Dagran Thaurissan will call for help if the room The Imerial Seat isn't cleared before engaging him.
• Lord Roccor has had attack speed slowed, resistances adjusted, an incorrect immunity removed, and abilities added/adjusted.
• Fire elementals in BRD have had immunities added.
• Lord Incendius is now immune to fire.

Blackwing Lair

• The whelps in BWL should have immunities for different spell schools based on their colour.
• Death Talon Hatchers should be immune to any CC, their Growing Flames range is increased.

Lower Blackrock Spire

• In several rooms groups were adjusted and pathings corrected.
• Zzzzzzzz's added, female models added.

Molten Core

• Increased speed for Flamewalker Priests
• Lava Spawns in MC are now fire immune.

Zul'Gurub

• Axe Throwers shouldn't continue their Axe Flurry after breaking out of a polymorph/fear.

Battlegrounds

• The correct level ranges should now be shown in the BG announcements.
• It should no longer be possible to queue a player below level 10 through group queueing

 

[Wilian]

Some news on Rebirth

After cease letter by Blizzard to Microsoft, Rebirth was forced to find a new hosting service. This resulted in 2 weeks downtime which is over now and server is back up. Website for now remains down as it apparently needs to be remade due to how it was built upon Azure cloud system before, so account creation is slightly more difficult. You can get new account by emailing muggle@therebirth.net, kyrai@therebirth.net or judgement@therebirth.net

It seems like this downtime had very little effect on population overall, as the server hit over 700 simultaneous players within two days of coming up and is only growing further with ED going down the P2W route with bad GM management. Besides website, best time to join is now!

 

[Don Peste]

So I was in the mood for some Vanilla WoW again. I made an account on Kronos and I'm an almost level 8 nelf druid already! Anyone still playing Vanilla?

 

[shihonage]

Yeah, and Nostalrius is what Emerald Dream used to be. Population is everything, and this server has thousands of people on at any given time.

Kronos may have tighter adherence to peripheral details, but Nostalrius is where the fun is. Population is EVERYTHING. I just wish people would stick to just one server - there are clearly not many enough of us to spread over more than one vanilla server.

 

[Don Peste]

Well, I'll make a Horde character on Nostalrius...

 

[Rahdulan]

Isn't Nostalrius planning to open a PvE server soon?

 

[Naraya]

^ Yes, on 17th Oct

I plan to wait till November with starting though - give them time to iron out any glaring issues, lags and avoid the initial flood of new people.

Currently I'm playing on PvP server and it's a really great experience but the ganking gets insane over level 20 or so. Some people just like to watch the world burn, I guess.