WR - General Chit-Chatter/Tidbits

[Destroid]

I'd guess at the coarse fabric in the first picture and the dirty paper in the second is what makes it look "western-y". Also looks much better than most of the stuff people try to make.

edit: If it's supposed to look more modern you'll probably have to look for more modern equivalents of the elements that you have in your picture. I can't remember seeing fabric that coarse, ever.

How can you go through life never seeing hessian?

 

[Yaar Podshipnik]

If you want to have something to look mass-printed but without use of modern tech maybe try to make it like http://www.sw.org.pl/techniki.html. Stuff you have now (like the gun) looks sharp and well printed. Reduce detail, add some noise to the dark parts, add some bleed of dark to bright parts.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Well in terms of gameplay, it's a lot of "western" setting, as in strongest guy survives, absolutely no law, frontier-area, no currency, no order, people trying to come by and such - much more like Fallout.

Fallout had all that? I guess I never noticed beyond all the bottle caps, Vault Cities, super mutants acting as Sheriffs etc.

 

[deuxhero]

Ok, so please explain the difference between Gender and Sex to me ( a non native speaker) - this would've been sorted out later anyway by my proofreaders, but I am interested in the reasoning anyway...

The sexes (male and female) are the two divisions in which many organisms are placed, based upon their reproductive role. The genders (masculine and feminine) refer to social characteristics (such as behavioral norms) associated with males and females, respectively. To illustrate: facial hair is a male characteristic, while courage is a masculine characteristic in many cultures.

As such "gender" is a bad choice because it implies more than is needed about the PC, a no-no for a cRPG.

 

[Surf Solar]

If you want to have something to look mass-printed but without use of modern tech maybe try to make it like http://www.sw.org.pl/techniki.html. Stuff you have now (like the gun) looks sharp and well printed. Reduce detail, add some noise to the dark parts, add some bleed of dark to bright parts.

Thanks for that link! And yeah, that gun is just a placeholder, looks too clean. Righto!

Fallout had all that? I guess I never noticed beyond all the bottle caps, Vault Cities, super mutants acting as Sheriffs etc.

Nope, it didn't really have that, my formulating the sentence was poorly chosen. I meant, that my mod will feel like that more, then it was in the original Fallout titles.




As for actual editing the interface, worked a bit today again.. But I don't know why, I always end up with this "western" theme. I mean it's not that I don't like it (I like it a lot), but... bleh. Something feels wrong there.

Last few nodes are (obviously) just placeholders.

 

[villain of the story]

I love it. And it looks more noir (despite the colour) than western.

 

[Black Bart Charley]

Will it be done by 2020?

 

[Surf Solar]

As the engine is already written and all the necessary stuff is much easier to edit then it is in plain Fallout2modding, it is very likely, yes. :D

 

[WetWorks]

I love it. And it looks more noir (despite the colour) than western.

Thats what i thought at first glance at the menu shot.

Anyway, looks good. Keep up the good work and all that.

 

[Jaesun]

I don't like that font for the dialogue personally.

Love the backgrounds though.

 

[Surf Solar]

Yeah, I've tried some different fonts, which look more like handwriting, but they always ended up looking like comic sans (you don't want comic sans ) and too cartoon-y.

Even though I really like that font (the Noir-like one) I get what you mean. The day I finally finish the interface and can concentrate on the rest of the maps and dialogs will be truely a glorious day. :D Feeling totally insane looking at wooden panels all day long.

 

[ghostdog]

Looks good.

Go for an old style typing font.

I want a chaingun-wielding coffin named Django as a follower.

 

[Jaesun]

Looks good.

Go for an old style typing font.

I want a chaingun-wielding coffin named Django as a follower.

Yeah I was thinking something like an old typewriter like font might be cool.

 

[Destroid]

Looks like a bioshock font.

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

I like the font now.

 

[GarfunkeL]

Good job so far, keep it up! As others said, the western-y feeling is quite strong but it's not a bad thing at all.

 

[Brotherman Bill]

EDIT:

Here are some examples from my mom's 1950's cookbook. Might give you some font and layout ideas:

http://www.rpgcodex.net/gallery/7275.png
http://www.rpgcodex.net/gallery/7276.png
http://www.rpgcodex.net/gallery/7277.png
http://www.rpgcodex.net/gallery/7278.png

Man, where do you get books like that? All I see in bookstores around here are popamole cookbooks which just lists ten ingredients per dish and call it a day.

 

[Needles]

How about some spirals in there?

That's just nitpicking though - looks great!

 

[Elwro]

Man, where do you get books like that? All I see in bookstores around here are popamole cookbooks which just lists ten ingredients per dish and call it a day.

http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9780764595622/Hors-DOeuvres-at-Home-with-The-Culinary-Institute-of-America

in unrelated news, http://www.thebitchstoppedcooking.com/

 

[shihonage]

So, how do you plan on selling it?

As someone also dependent on preexisting, copyrighted graphics assets, I have a vested interest in this topic.

 

[Surf Solar]

Selling? I am quite puzzled and tend to tell it's a "game" not a "mod", but basically it is just a mod. It's background is still rooted in the fallout universe, although my style and imagination how the world looks is popped on. People still need to have a Fallout 2 disc, for some of the graphics (although I am trying very hard to replace old ones with new ones to minimize the need of od game files). Also, we're just two people working on, one scripter (a very good one though), and me, writing everything and doing the "art" and interface stuff. Only some proofreaders later on too. There is just no way this can be made into a commercial game, and quite honestly I don't even want that, as I go with the "By gamers for gamers" style. No need to sell anything, I do this as my hobby.

I've done some editing today aswell, here's the journal (as for stuff written there, just made that up as placeholder, it's no actual game content). There is still stuff missing, especially at the left hand side, hm.

 

[shihonage]

Selling? I am quite puzzled and tend to tell it's a "game" not a "mod", but basically it is just a mod. It's background is still rooted in the fallout universe, although my style and imagination how the world looks is popped on. People still need to have a Fallout 2 disc, for some of the graphics (although I am trying very hard to replace old ones with new ones to minimize the need of od game files). Also, we're just two people working on, one scripter (a very good one though), and me, writing everything and doing the "art" and interface stuff. Only some proofreaders later on too. There is just no way this can be made into a commercial game, and quite honestly I don't even want that, as I go with the "By gamers for gamers" style. No need to sell anything, I do this as my hobby.

Garry's mod is a mod, but he sells it. Anyway, I was just curious.

 

[Surf Solar]

Just don't want to summon Bethesda (or however holds the rights to the Fallout1/2 games) etc.

 

[Zed]

Typewriter fonts are usually monospaced, which I personally often find advantageous.

 

[Surf Solar]

Some random PC ( ? not sure yet, as it sounds a bit too badass) lines recorded ... You can listen to them at 1:15 in the video. As for the rest, I tried to capture actual ingame shots, but my PC can't handle that. So you gotta listen to ambient sfx from the very first location plus some random shots popped on...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upDQL76GYGM