POOPERSCOOPER
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Red Orchestra is probably my fav rpg.
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Your favorite RPG, including all subgenres.
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Hümmelgümpf
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POOPERSCOOPER said:
But that's obvious and doesn't deserve to be mentioned. We are supposed to name our favorite cRPG(s) besides Red Orchestra.
Talking seriously... Arcanum is my favourite, using the tech and spell fixes, of course, Fallout and heavily modded Morrowind would be my next favourites. Planescape: Torment had a very good story, but as a game I consider it an average classic RPG.
kingcomrade
Kingcomrade
Dawn of War
MetalCraze
Arcane
Fallout 2 or Baldur's Gate 2... And... and Planescape: Torment too (cuz of the most emotional story-line and also a setting). Shit. I simply can't determine 
Kamaz
Pahris Entertainment
Fallout (of course) because ... there are tons of reasons and I am sure you have heard them all. Including pretty graphics.
And the other one, that is not really an RPG -- DeusEx. I like the mix of RPG and story-driven action plus the unforgettable setting. Bloodlines comes really close, but loses because of the bugginess and respawning enemies :/.
And the other one, that is not really an RPG -- DeusEx. I like the mix of RPG and story-driven action plus the unforgettable setting. Bloodlines comes really close, but loses because of the bugginess and respawning enemies :/.
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Lol, Kamaz is back. Today is a good day for LARPing.
Hümmelgümpf
Arbiter
Every day is a good day for LARPing.
Shagnak
Shagadelic
Welcome back Kamaz! You great big hairy larper you! 
Trash
Pointing and laughing.
Buck Roger’s Countdown to Doomsday was in my eyes a work of art. It had a really cool 50-ish sci-fi tale to tell. One that unfolded as you explored the myriad of space stations, asteroids and planets in the game. It had fun turn-based combat and some of the quests missions were really memorable. One of the first had you fighting to secure a derelict spaceship while a parasite slowly started killing your party members. Or how about a fight to save a primitive village that you just couldn’t win. In the end it was inevitably exterminated. It may not be the best rpg ever, but this little goldbox game wasted an entire summer of my youth and I loved every minute of it..
Fallout had a great setting and just drew me in. I kind of bought it because of the “enemies explode like a blood sausage” statement that I read somewhere, but was amazed and hooked because of it’s depth and story. Never before and after have I seen a game that had such meaningful choices in its gameplay. The best rpg ever, and incredible fun to play even today. Nough said, almost everybody here knows and loves it.
Planescape: torment was as mentioned before a work of art. Great story, setting and characters combined with great replayability. It sometimes feels like a digital book that plays out slightly different each time because of different choices I make. Every time I replay it, there seem to be some new things I discover.
Darklands had you adventuring through medieval Germany. Fighting robber knights, demons, the templars, evil villagers and even a Dragon, exploring the countryside, doing missions for the Hanze or running into a group of Pilgrims. This game was huge in both scope and replayability. I remember really loving the combat (it was kinda new at the time) and the many ways I could shape my characters. This baby has been on my HD for years and still have I never finished all the “main questlines”.
Dark Sun started me out in an arena, fighting for the enjoyment of the crowds. Trying to escape my inevitable death in that harsh place and the adventure following it was a riot to play through. It again had a great setting to explore (something that I really enjoy in my entertainment) and the gameplay nowadays looks like an early incarnation of Baldurs Gate. Though it had it’s share of bugs and the ending was a bit disappointing, the game is still one of my all time favs to this day.
The rpg genre had a few real gems in it’s time. I haven’t even spoken about great games like star trail, ultima 7, mega traveller, avernum, starflight 2 (rpg-ish I know) , Baldur’s gate 2 or gothic 2. Hopefully we’ll see some new fresh stars in the future, though I don’t see any in the near future.
Fallout had a great setting and just drew me in. I kind of bought it because of the “enemies explode like a blood sausage” statement that I read somewhere, but was amazed and hooked because of it’s depth and story. Never before and after have I seen a game that had such meaningful choices in its gameplay. The best rpg ever, and incredible fun to play even today. Nough said, almost everybody here knows and loves it.
Planescape: torment was as mentioned before a work of art. Great story, setting and characters combined with great replayability. It sometimes feels like a digital book that plays out slightly different each time because of different choices I make. Every time I replay it, there seem to be some new things I discover.
Darklands had you adventuring through medieval Germany. Fighting robber knights, demons, the templars, evil villagers and even a Dragon, exploring the countryside, doing missions for the Hanze or running into a group of Pilgrims. This game was huge in both scope and replayability. I remember really loving the combat (it was kinda new at the time) and the many ways I could shape my characters. This baby has been on my HD for years and still have I never finished all the “main questlines”.
Dark Sun started me out in an arena, fighting for the enjoyment of the crowds. Trying to escape my inevitable death in that harsh place and the adventure following it was a riot to play through. It again had a great setting to explore (something that I really enjoy in my entertainment) and the gameplay nowadays looks like an early incarnation of Baldurs Gate. Though it had it’s share of bugs and the ending was a bit disappointing, the game is still one of my all time favs to this day.
The rpg genre had a few real gems in it’s time. I haven’t even spoken about great games like star trail, ultima 7, mega traveller, avernum, starflight 2 (rpg-ish I know) , Baldur’s gate 2 or gothic 2. Hopefully we’ll see some new fresh stars in the future, though I don’t see any in the near future.
majestik12
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It is surprising that only one person has mentioned Ultima 7 so far. It is a wonderful game.
But my favorite is Betrayal in Krondor. This game is absolutely linear and provides little actual choices for the player to make. But it has the BEST writing I've ever seen in a video game. The characters, the dialogues, the plot - everything is amazing. Besides, the turn-based combat system is pretty good and the game in general has a perfect style and atmosphere.
But my favorite is Betrayal in Krondor. This game is absolutely linear and provides little actual choices for the player to make. But it has the BEST writing I've ever seen in a video game. The characters, the dialogues, the plot - everything is amazing. Besides, the turn-based combat system is pretty good and the game in general has a perfect style and atmosphere.
Trash
Pointing and laughing.
Course I have, and though I liked it, it wasn't as memerable as the ones I wrote about. When it was in production it sounded great. Steampunk meets fantasy, from the makers of fallout, turn-based, etc. However the game just didn't fascinate me that much.
The amount of characters possible were great, and the amount of choices and options during the game was as good as one could hope. However the turn-based combat sucked, the game felt unbalanced and the graphics were kinda bland. What irks me most however were the dungeons. They just weren't that much fun, and for me even worse, they didn't feel logical or like real life locations. Just hallway after hallway of monsters and traps. I absolutely hated them.
Still the game had some of the brilliance of fallout, but felt a bit too lacking. I guess I had my hopes up too high.
The amount of characters possible were great, and the amount of choices and options during the game was as good as one could hope. However the turn-based combat sucked, the game felt unbalanced and the graphics were kinda bland. What irks me most however were the dungeons. They just weren't that much fun, and for me even worse, they didn't feel logical or like real life locations. Just hallway after hallway of monsters and traps. I absolutely hated them.
Still the game had some of the brilliance of fallout, but felt a bit too lacking. I guess I had my hopes up too high.
quasimodo said:
I loved all three of these games. I sometimes forget about JA2. It was a fantastic game.
- Livonya
Keldryn
Arcane
It is impossible for me to pick only one RPG as my all-time favourite.
Ultima VII: The Black Gate (PC) features what may still be the best-realized fantasy world. The main storyline wasn't anything special, but the detailed world, "living" NPCs, portrayal of a society in decay, companions that played more of a role than just extra swords... There are good reasons why this game is still highly regarded and projects like Exult exist.
Fallout & Fallout 2 (PC) - I don't think I need to elaborate much on these. Fallout was the original and had a more consistent atmosphere, but I think that Fallout 2 was a more fun game to play. Other than the Temple of Trials, which is one of the most tedious intro segments in any game.
Knights of the Old Republic (Xbox) is a rarity in that it's a Star Wars game that I actually like. I've been a huge fan of the movies since the first one was in theatres, I love the prequel films and Return of the Jedi too, I hate the novels almost without exception, and I've found most of the games to be uninspired (other than X-Wing, TIE Fighter, Jedi Knight). KOTOR is an absolutely brilliant game, and I think it finds a very good balance between nonlinear gameplay and strong storytelling. You do have to complete all four middle worlds eventually, but you can do them in any order and don't even have to complete one before moving on to the others. There are many optional sidequests, and many events in the game play out very differently, depending on your choices. It's not as open-ended as Fallout, but being too sandboxy wouldn't really feel true to the source material. Presentation values are top-notch, and I was astounded with the amount and quality of voice acting in the game. The characters and storyline were great, and I may actually like KOTOR even more than Fallout, as blasphemous as that may sound.
Chrono Trigger (SNES) is better than any of the Final Fantasy games, as far as I am concerned. The characters are memorable, the story is interesting and sends you to a variety of "worlds." It was 1994-95 and they had already dispensed with the random battles. The story is fairly linear, but unlike most JRPGs, your choices do have a dramatic effect on the outcome of the story. The game has 17 documented endings, some of which are obviously more simliar to each other than others. It's one of the only games that I know of where you can finish the game without the main character. One of the first games to feature "New Game+" that allows you to start the game with your characters' stats and items intact, and doing so opens up an ending halfway through game that you wouldn't have been able to accomplish the first time through. Square has yet to top this one.
Skies of Arcadia Legends (Gamecube) does have a lot of fantasy cliches, but it's damn fun and uplifting. The characters are generally optimistic and cheerful, driven by a simple love for exploration, and it's a nice departure from the angst-ridden navel-gazing of brooding, sarcastic anti-heroes that seems to have become popular. Just when you think you've explored the whole world, new regions open up, there are tons of hidden discoveries to find, ship-to-ship combat, recruting crew members, and a cool element-based combat system. It's from the team that did Phantasy Star II and IV.
Planescape: Torment (PC) needs little explanation as well. Brilliant concept, mostly-brilliant execution, fantastic art direction. Only thing that really holds the game back is, ironically, the AD&D rules that the Planescape license is stuck with.
Deus Ex (PC) is one of those hybrid or cross-genre games, but it's still a damn brilliant game. It has its share of flaws (like goofy AI), but it's got a fantastic story and doesn't force the player into a specific way of playing the game. Has just enough RPG stats to serve the purpose of the game (unfortunately dropped from the sequel), and is deservedly one of my all-time favourites.
Okami (PS2) will ruffle some feathers by being on my list, but it's an action-RPG by any definition I've seen. Playing as a goddess incarnated as a wolf is unique, and the game throws an incredible variety of environments and challenges at you. The artistic direction is flat-out amazing, like a living Japanese watercolour painting. You learn "celestial brush" techinques (which can be upgraded) to paint solutions to puzzles into existence (or for use in combat) and to restore life to the world. It's an incredibly rewarding experience to watch the dead and blasted landscape burst to life as the direct result of your actions.
I would also include Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time, but I'll definitely get the "Zelda is an adventure game and not an RPG" crowd all riled up, despite their RPGish elements and the influences they've had on the RPG genre.
Ultima VII: The Black Gate (PC) features what may still be the best-realized fantasy world. The main storyline wasn't anything special, but the detailed world, "living" NPCs, portrayal of a society in decay, companions that played more of a role than just extra swords... There are good reasons why this game is still highly regarded and projects like Exult exist.
Fallout & Fallout 2 (PC) - I don't think I need to elaborate much on these. Fallout was the original and had a more consistent atmosphere, but I think that Fallout 2 was a more fun game to play. Other than the Temple of Trials, which is one of the most tedious intro segments in any game.
Knights of the Old Republic (Xbox) is a rarity in that it's a Star Wars game that I actually like. I've been a huge fan of the movies since the first one was in theatres, I love the prequel films and Return of the Jedi too, I hate the novels almost without exception, and I've found most of the games to be uninspired (other than X-Wing, TIE Fighter, Jedi Knight). KOTOR is an absolutely brilliant game, and I think it finds a very good balance between nonlinear gameplay and strong storytelling. You do have to complete all four middle worlds eventually, but you can do them in any order and don't even have to complete one before moving on to the others. There are many optional sidequests, and many events in the game play out very differently, depending on your choices. It's not as open-ended as Fallout, but being too sandboxy wouldn't really feel true to the source material. Presentation values are top-notch, and I was astounded with the amount and quality of voice acting in the game. The characters and storyline were great, and I may actually like KOTOR even more than Fallout, as blasphemous as that may sound.
Chrono Trigger (SNES) is better than any of the Final Fantasy games, as far as I am concerned. The characters are memorable, the story is interesting and sends you to a variety of "worlds." It was 1994-95 and they had already dispensed with the random battles. The story is fairly linear, but unlike most JRPGs, your choices do have a dramatic effect on the outcome of the story. The game has 17 documented endings, some of which are obviously more simliar to each other than others. It's one of the only games that I know of where you can finish the game without the main character. One of the first games to feature "New Game+" that allows you to start the game with your characters' stats and items intact, and doing so opens up an ending halfway through game that you wouldn't have been able to accomplish the first time through. Square has yet to top this one.
Skies of Arcadia Legends (Gamecube) does have a lot of fantasy cliches, but it's damn fun and uplifting. The characters are generally optimistic and cheerful, driven by a simple love for exploration, and it's a nice departure from the angst-ridden navel-gazing of brooding, sarcastic anti-heroes that seems to have become popular. Just when you think you've explored the whole world, new regions open up, there are tons of hidden discoveries to find, ship-to-ship combat, recruting crew members, and a cool element-based combat system. It's from the team that did Phantasy Star II and IV.
Planescape: Torment (PC) needs little explanation as well. Brilliant concept, mostly-brilliant execution, fantastic art direction. Only thing that really holds the game back is, ironically, the AD&D rules that the Planescape license is stuck with.
Deus Ex (PC) is one of those hybrid or cross-genre games, but it's still a damn brilliant game. It has its share of flaws (like goofy AI), but it's got a fantastic story and doesn't force the player into a specific way of playing the game. Has just enough RPG stats to serve the purpose of the game (unfortunately dropped from the sequel), and is deservedly one of my all-time favourites.
Okami (PS2) will ruffle some feathers by being on my list, but it's an action-RPG by any definition I've seen. Playing as a goddess incarnated as a wolf is unique, and the game throws an incredible variety of environments and challenges at you. The artistic direction is flat-out amazing, like a living Japanese watercolour painting. You learn "celestial brush" techinques (which can be upgraded) to paint solutions to puzzles into existence (or for use in combat) and to restore life to the world. It's an incredibly rewarding experience to watch the dead and blasted landscape burst to life as the direct result of your actions.
I would also include Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time, but I'll definitely get the "Zelda is an adventure game and not an RPG" crowd all riled up, despite their RPGish elements and the influences they've had on the RPG genre.
Sarvis
Erudite
Keldryn said:
Halfway through? You can go and fight the boss at the very beginning, if you want!
Definately one of their best.
Fat Dragon
Arbiter
Fav. RPGS, eh?
1. Fallout
I just love the strong focus on role playing this game has. However, I've still never been able to keep from creating a psychotic sniper with a genius IQ everytime I replay the game. What are some other interesting character builds?
2. Arcanum
Like Fallout, it has a great focus on role playing. The setting is also excellent. And there's just so much shit to do in this, in never gets old.
3. KOTOR
I'm not really a big Bioware fan, but I think this game is excellent. Sure, the frame-rate was shit at times, and Carth was an annoying litle prick, but I still played the hell out of this fun game.
4. Final Fantasy 4
The first console game I've ever played. I greatly enjoyed this game's storyline, and its cast of characters. The art style was nice too, as were all the other FF's. Unfortunately, Square ditched the style for the generic anime look most Japanese games have these days.
5. Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
I know most don't consider Zelda series an RPG, but the games do have a number of RPG elements. This game has much more depth to it than the other Zelda games. Townspeople have their own skedule that is different for each of the 3 days the game takes place in, so they were never just standing in the same place saying the same things. TONS of side-quests, fairly challenging, and the way time travel was handled in the game was brilliant. Depending on how many people you helped out during the game, the ending would also be slightly different, which was pretty cool.
6. System Shock 2
Do I really need to explain? Out of all the games I've played, I had the most fun with this one. My fav. game.
7. Deus Ex 1
JC Denton was a complete badass. What more needs to be said?
1. Fallout
I just love the strong focus on role playing this game has. However, I've still never been able to keep from creating a psychotic sniper with a genius IQ everytime I replay the game. What are some other interesting character builds?
2. Arcanum
Like Fallout, it has a great focus on role playing. The setting is also excellent. And there's just so much shit to do in this, in never gets old.
3. KOTOR
I'm not really a big Bioware fan, but I think this game is excellent. Sure, the frame-rate was shit at times, and Carth was an annoying litle prick, but I still played the hell out of this fun game.
4. Final Fantasy 4
The first console game I've ever played. I greatly enjoyed this game's storyline, and its cast of characters. The art style was nice too, as were all the other FF's. Unfortunately, Square ditched the style for the generic anime look most Japanese games have these days.
5. Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
I know most don't consider Zelda series an RPG, but the games do have a number of RPG elements. This game has much more depth to it than the other Zelda games. Townspeople have their own skedule that is different for each of the 3 days the game takes place in, so they were never just standing in the same place saying the same things. TONS of side-quests, fairly challenging, and the way time travel was handled in the game was brilliant. Depending on how many people you helped out during the game, the ending would also be slightly different, which was pretty cool.
6. System Shock 2
Do I really need to explain? Out of all the games I've played, I had the most fun with this one. My fav. game.
7. Deus Ex 1
JC Denton was a complete badass. What more needs to be said?
Keldryn
Arcane
Sarvis said:
Wow, I didn't know that. Just goes to show how freaking cool the game was. Where do you get a chance to fight Lavos near the beginning?
Morbus
Scholar
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No RPG ever truly satisfied me. I could mention Fallout, Arcanum, Planescape Torment, Morrowind, Baldur's Gate, even Diablo or Arx Fatalis, but though I enjoyed all those games (some more than others, of course), all of them, with no exception, lack something that cuts the sweet flavor a good RPG should always have. I would elect Arcanum for the one I like the most, but the combat kills the game for me: it's an utter pile of shit, for chirst sake, when compared with the rest of the game. It surely is better than most other game's combat, but it could be so much better. Anyway, Arcanum is one of the few games that actually made me cry, and that's something, I think.
katzenjammer
Novice
No love for Wasteland? It holds up surprisingly well for a game made in the 80s.
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