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KickStarter Phoenix Point - the new game from X-COM creator Julian Gollop

Discussion in 'Tactical Gaming' started by Infinitron, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. Black Arcane

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    Already 3 DLCs out for a total of ~25 bucks? Good job, *nglo G*llop. You take Epic's chinabucks to "make sure your game is as good as it can be" and still shit out dlcs.
     
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  2. Taka-Haradin puolipeikko Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    I'm pretty certain that's just pre-order at this point.
     
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  3. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Yeah I think the first DLC (probably the cosmetic one?) is out in February, the others will come throughout the year. Just like with XCOM.
     
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  4. Black Arcane

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    That's not good either, it just came out and there's already DLC for it.
     
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  5. cvv Arcane Patron

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    A DLC roadmap like that has been completely normal for a while now. Or do you wanna go back to the time when you could buy just a blank Season Pass, without knowing what you're actually getting for your money?
     
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  6. rashiakas Savant Patron

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    Played this for 10 mins and reinstalled xcom2.
     
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  7. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    LoL totally forgot that those existed. They are pretty mediocre at best,alos i believe that PD is not a xcom clone but TB rpg,could be mistaken tho.
     
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  8. Taka-Haradin puolipeikko Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Besides Xenonauts 1 (and hopefully 2) are structured more like original rather than nu-Xcom.
     
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  9. Black Arcane

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    I'd rather go back when you had a base game + one or two expansions for it, each having almost as much content as the base game.
    Besides, as I said, it's not just that there is DLC. It's that they took Epic's money (which was supposed to be used to make a game as good and complete as possible) and are shitting out DLC on top of it.
     
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  10. Raghar Arcane

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    And I want games to have copyright expiration after 5 years after commercial release. But I'm partially senile who has some expectations, and don't understand why profit is important.
     
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  11. Raghar Arcane

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    When you don't play Phantom Doctrine as XCOM, it's passable. (But I heard that main developer basically sabotaged project and then ran to another company, and it shows.) But the STORY should be most important part of spy tactical game. And story in Phantom Doctrine sucks.
     
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  12. Jarpie Arcane Patron

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    That bad, huh? must be pretty fucking shit.
     
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  13. Shog-goth Learned Patron

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    Apart from the rest, did you take a look at the additional "bonus" content? Even here there is an atmosphere of sloppiness and approximation, the artbook is embarrassing, the OST soporific and, on top of this, you get a 500 pages anthology to remember how much interesting lore was spent in vain to get to this ridiculous mess and parody of a real game, that would be a shame even on mobile.
     
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  14. Alpharius Educated

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    Lul, my soldier just destroyed a mission objective he was taking cover behind. He was on overwatch and crabman came around the corner and boom all bullets gone into the objective. Also had to get into melee with melee crabman chipping at another objective cause it was impossible to get line of sight on that crabman any other way. That thing had some enormous invisible hitboxes.

    I've noticed the overwatch and heavy cover in general are not very usefull, cause you'll never know if some piece of wood will block line of sight. Not sure the if realistic ballistics in this game are an improvement over nuxcom rng fest anymore.
     
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  15. Swigen Savant

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    I knew it!! :argh:
     
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  16. holla_cabezas_de_mierda Arcane

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    whats the point of cover if you can almost automatically hit some tiny part of some creatures nose poking out from behind "full" cover from 200 yards?

    There is nothing "realistic" about this type of "ballistic model". I think people just hear or like to say "ballistic model" or "projectile physics" and think it means something is really sophisticated. It just means the computer can draw a line from the end of the gun to the target and apply gravity and force to the projectile, there is nothing realistic about being able to hit some wart on a monsters ass from 800 feet in the middle of combat. Its fucking ridiculous. its not more "realistic" than "to hit" numbers, probably less.
     
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  17. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Yes,in real fire fights cover doesn't make you immortal too.
     
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  18. ybfelix Novice

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    "Manual aiming", "ballistic model" is a weird mix of abstraction and physical reality. It implies the soldiers, monsters and map objects actually looked, positioned and distanced exactly like what's on screen, instead of a chess board representation. So under several layers of probabilistic abstraction, you suddenly get down to nitty gritty of "can you shine a laser pointer on that antenna poking out of that debris?"
     
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  19. Raghar Arcane

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    But it's better when games are trying to be realistic. Like this...
     
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  20. Taka-Haradin puolipeikko Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Do bullets penetrate things on current version?
    I know that it wasn't included in backer build 3.
     
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  21. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    LoL this clip is such a fucking caricature lol. Didn't know that shooting at the floor with WW2 rifle makes it collapse lol.
     
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  22. prengle Educated

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    goddamn. just take a look at this lanky motherfucking gremlin. take a gander. look into gollop's eyes. absolute bastard
    [​IMG]
     
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  23. Cyberarmy Love fool Patron

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    So just tried to play this and only thing I got was a black screen...
    I got what I deserved I guess...
     
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  24. Galdred Studio Draconis Patron Developer

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    Yes, a 20 cm hole on the ground is an impassible obstacle (also, lol at piercing [edit: opening holes in] wall and floor with a WW2 rifle).
    That said, combat in Silent Storms and SSS was really cool.
     
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  25. ArchAngel Arcane

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    Upgrade your wood PC into a stone PC.
     
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