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Warcraft III: Reforged - now with lowest user metacritic score of all time

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by Dawkinsfan69, Nov 2, 2018.

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  1. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Seems to me like a mix of graphix whoreness and an excessive emoshunal attachment to muh good ol' days. Sure the new graphix looks like dogshit, it's not a Cryengine makeover now is it? Plus ya'll kids might not remember anymore but even the original kindda looked like dogshit when it came out. Gone was the pretty 2D art from W2, replaced by ghastly angular models from the notoriously unsightly dawn of 3D engines.

    So all that waxing lyrical about muh old Warcraft is just pure nostalgiafaggotry. Your taste is no better than Blizzard's.
     
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  2. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    Original had shit art to begin with.
     
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  3. whydoibother Learned

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    When you want to make an argument, you correctly talk about how its a bad game, and a lazy cash grab. But then when it comes time to make a conclusion, you go full SJW, and act as if you proved all of this crap.
    Yes, the art style looks worse. Yes, there are missing textures. Yes, the models are bad. Yes, they didn't deliver the cutscene rework, etc. Yes there are issues with custom games, there are no clans. Yes, they basically deleted the classic game. Yes, we all think its shit. No, this doesn't mean that its a cultural jihad against conservative America or whatever. Its just a company in decline trying and failing to sell a bad product. Stop hijacking gamer outrage and trying to paint it as a political revolt. Fuck off.
     
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  4. dawcio Learned

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    If they didn't screw it up, there would be probably Warcraft 4 in the future? This is a disaster.
     
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  5. Citizen Prophet

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    I agree that OG warcraft wasn't too pretty, but it had distinct "old cartoon" visual style with overdetailed high-contrast objects. It was looking like shit, but at least you could tell what kind of picture they were aiming for. New graphics look like cheap ass mobile game assets.

    Moral is: if you can't do better, don't touch. They either needed to completely redo the graphics by recreating the game in SC2 engine (with SC2 visual style), or don't touch them at all, just make better animations and leave it be. Instead they made the graphics shittier and left the same old 15 fps animations lol
     
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  6. Lyric Suite Converting to Islam

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    Lmao please go fuck yourself.

    Need i remind you miserable faggots that Warcraft 3 was already filled with SJW shit, and that's actually one of the reasons the writing in that game was complete and utter garbage? And you think things actually improved with Blizzard since then?
     
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  7. whydoibother Learned

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    Took you a while to say you always hated Warcraft III, even before the remake, and you are only here to push your political agenda on people who are righteously mad about the remake.
     
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  8. OctavianRomulus Educated

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    The terrain is a mixed bag for sure. Barrens is the best, followed by Ashenvale and Snow. The rest are pretty bad.
     
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  9. Harthwain Scholar

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    Eh, no. What they are trying to do at the moment is inclusion/representation. That's the first step. Trying to make it seem normal that non-white people are large/equal/significant part of places that didn't have non-white people originally is the second step.

    The reason you don't see that kind of move being common/popular in the Eastern Europe is because countries like Czech Republic (Kingdom Come: Deliverance) or Poland (The Witcher series) don't really have a lot of non-white population, so they don't have to seek their approval by inserting races that don't make sense in their games, unlike USA-based companies, which do so by default to avoid upsetting their own public opinion. And that's how you get black people fighting for Nazi Germany or female British frontline soldiers. Or black AND female Nazi soldiers.
     
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  10. Storyfag Arcane Patron

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    Pics or it didnt happen.
     
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  11. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    The only way to get the better version is to pirate it :smug:
     
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  12. Lyric Suite Converting to Islam

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    Dude, are you retarded?

    Warcraft 3 was always shit when it came to the story, writing, tone of the game compared to the original etc. The gameplay was great, multiplayer obviously but also the single player maps (Frozen Throne in particular i rank as among the best single player RTS missions ever made) but the fucking writing was just cringe in every possible way. This is what makes SC2 a real gem in decline, in that the writing was so bad it made even that of Warcraft 3 look like literature by comparison.

    And yes, Warcraft 3 was full of SJW shit already back then. They retconned the humans from the original games as "racist", because in most fantasy games, humans = whites which is why they are always portrayed as decadent, corrupt etc. as opposed to the noble Orcs who dindu nuffing and were just misunderstood, right? They made Tyrande an insufferable cunt because muh wombyn power, and so on.

    The writing was of course terrible even apart from the l1brul shit. The confrontation between Arthas and Illidan was among the most embarrassingly bad moments in video game history. "Our powers are perfectly matched we could fight for a thousand years lmao". It was basically animu shit.
     
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  13. skacky Prestigious Gentleman 3D Realms Developer

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    It was decline compared to Warcraft 2 but the terrain in OG Warcraft 3 looked far better than whatever shit they have in Reforged. Everything looks flat as fuck, detail is completely lost and there's no contrast anymore.
     
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  14. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    Looking better than shit isn't a good argument.
    Nearly all early/semi-early real time 3D games have aged like complete ass(yes, yes I know there are exceptions.) OTOH, the prerendered games have aged like fine wine.
     
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  15. Lyric Suite Converting to Islam

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    Don't listen to rusty, he is literally retarded. Or doesn't actually read what people reply to him.
     
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  16. Harthwain Scholar

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    How about a video?

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  17. Viata Arcane

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    How dare black people fight for nazi german.
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    oh wait :shredder:
     
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  18. Dexter Arcane

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    I still have some folders filled with WC3 Custom Maps, a lot even dated back to 2002, and this was what WarCraft 3 really was about for me and many people. I think I only played the Main campaign belatedly after I had played a lot of Online games and played loads of Custom maps with friends and Online acquaintances back then, and it was one of the games one could return to every few years and find something new:
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    Unfortunately they apparently ruined that all too in another dumbfoundingly Stupid-Greedy Nu-Blizzard decision. What they don't seem to get is that the things that they couldn't control, for instance all the Star Wars, Star Trek, Castlevania, Aliens, Jurassic Park, Predator etc. maps and all the shit they would nowadays deem "unacceptable" to their "Community Standards" was what made it all great in the first place and allowed for a space where even new genres of popular games like Tower Defense and MOBAs could be created and flourish.

    People Remade other games in WC3, they wrote and designed hour-long Adventures and stories, they thought up and designed entirely new genres from the ground up. If Nu-Battle.Net existed back in the day the way they implemented it in StarCraft II with all the restrictions and the stupid Join system restricted to the most popular maps, these things would have likely never existed in the first place since they'd have extinguished that flame before it could even burn. Same thing could be said for StarCraft growing into nationwide E-Sport in Korea filling stadiums with games that were broadcast on Live TV. As soon as they moved in and tried to take control and profit off of every aspect of that instead of trying to make their money off of game Sales and things like merchandising and whatnot on the side they obviously screwed with what made it so popular in the first place.

    If only some people could have predicted what would happen with Blizzard a decade ago, even though not quite predict the heights of stupidity and incompetence like belatedly ruining WarCraft III and squashing its potential long past its due or their Diversity hires starting to introduce never before dreamt of levels of incompetence to the company:
    https://web.archive.org/web/2014040...a-short-history-of-activision-blizzard-or-how
    https://web.archive.org/web/2011081...ntent/the-creation-of-battle-net-2-0-part-one
     
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  19. Harthwain Scholar

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    So did thousands of "full Jews" (Mischlinge). I am sure it will be a worthy addition to the next game!
     
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  20. racofer Thread Incliner

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    dOnt YOu gUIsE haeV an i9900K?!?
     
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  21. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    Apparently people are creating holocaust maps in response to blizzard's EULA claiming ownership of user created content
     
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  22. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    :what:
     
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  23. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Unsurprising. Blizzard fans are famous for their emotional maturity, sense of perspective and sound judgement.
     
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  24. Dexter Arcane

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    Sheltered Momma's boy learns that game from 2002 that had map Editor offering absolute freedom, with people hosting their own maps and facilitating the downloads at the start of a game, that has led to untold amount of creativity and sparked several game genres now worth billions and millions of $ also contained some "controversial content", is very surprised.

    This video posted a few pages back is probably some of the milder stuff that can still be shown on YouTube:


    I think they're taking the wrong approach though. They should all be making Star Wars™ and Mickey Mouse® maps and let Activision and Disney fight it out.
     
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  25. dawcio Learned

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    I'm wondering what they will do with this crap now.
    Will they try to fix it?
     
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