Kingdom Come: Deliverance II - Henry's coming to see us on February 4th

[cvv]

Unfortunately it doesn't look fake. I'm sure Warhorse won't stoop to some brainless Bay Area wokeness, they'll explain and justify everything but it's still disappointing.

As thr writes it makes mockery of the millions of fans that defended Warhorse for years from journos and other retards. Some of the more radical anti-woke tubers like Doctor Disaster or Vara Dark will rip Vavra a new one for this.

 

[NecroLord]

This troll post is going around /v/. I'm spreading it here, because I'm a part of the problem.

 

[cvv]

enjoy your kingdom woke chuds

The dindu is embarrassing but this is different, Jews had been a widespread minority in Bohemia for centuries by the time the game's taking place in. Authenticity-wise they should've been in KCD1 already but Warhorse didn't have enough time and resources to do them properly so they only got a Codex entry.

 

[NecroLord]

AYO, Henry, lemme axe u sumthin:
WERE DA BOHMYAN WIMMIN AT, NIGGA???

 

[thr]

Unfortunately it doesn't look fake. I'm sure Warhorse won't stoop to some brainless Bay Area wokeness, they'll explain and justify everything but it's still disappointing.

As thr writes it makes mockery of the millions of fans that defended Warhorse for years from journos and other retards. Some of the more radical anti-woke tubers like Doctor Disaster or Vara Dark will rip Vavra a new one for this.

There are some people claiming its fake based on some image analysis. Sounds like cope to me, but let's wait a little. If it's real, then I believe Warhorse will have their core fandom turned against them, and it won't be nice. And I won't feel sorry one bit.

 

[NecroLord]

Unfortunately it doesn't look fake. I'm sure Warhorse won't stoop to some brainless Bay Area wokeness, they'll explain and justify everything but it's still disappointing.

As thr writes it makes mockery of the millions of fans that defended Warhorse for years from journos and other retards. Some of the more radical anti-woke tubers like Doctor Disaster or Vara Dark will rip Vavra a new one for this.

There are some people claiming its fake based on some image analysis. Sounds like cope to me, but let's wait a little. If it's real, then I believe Warhorse will have their core fandom turned against them, and it won't be nice. And I won't feel sorry one bit.

It's fucking real nigga.
Just negro scholar who made his way into Kuttenberg (though it would be more believable if he was a merchant or trader, I guess).
Still, Warhorse was supposed to keep its ZERO NIGGERS policy.

 

[cvv]

There are some people claiming its fake based on some image analysis.

A few years ago I'd have zero doubts it was real. It looks extremely authentic. But today with AI image generators you can't trust anything so yeah, let's reserve our judgement.

Still, my best bet is it's real. It's so weird, I can't imagine Vavra cramming the dindu in voluntarily but I can't imagine anyone being able to do it against his will either, knowing what a pigheaded abrasive asshole he is. Eh, let's wait and see.

 

[Elttharion]

>Black dude in a medieval setting in the middle of Europe
>Instead of a trader he is an explorer (jogger), scholar and doctor
>Its the camp's doctor, so presumably someone with authority among whites or there is a whole camp of negroes
>Lectures you about how so much better his country is and that you should treat woman better in yours

Yeah, thanks 'based' Vavra

 

[DKunit]

Well, it's good to know we've finally reached the point where discussion around this game will be fucking unbearable going forward.

 

[DKunit]

The guy who posted it on 4chan is saying the Malian guy is the doctor at Sigismund's war camp.

 

[thesecret1]

I know gypsies were in, but I am surprised to see a guy from actual africa. Never heard of Mansa Musa and empire of Mali, does it make any sense that trader from there would find himself around Kuttenberg?

There is no reason not to. Since there was active diplomatic and commercial activity between Europe and China in the 14th Century it would make sense rich African empires would be around too.

No there wasn't. The reason why Marco Polo (14th century btw) was such a big deal was precisely because it was not something people would normally do. "Trade" between China and Europe wasn't done by some dude loading up shit in China and selling it in Europe. It was made by a dude in China selling his shit somewhere in central asia, where another dude sold it in persia, where another dude sold it in Syria, where it got loaded on a ship and finally reached a European port. They really weren't doing some ridiculous monster trek where they'd go all the way there and back, and similarly, a trader from Mali would've sold his shit in northern Africa and go back, and certainly wouldn't travel to central Europe.

Of course, one could argue he was an explorer rather than trader, as making such treks was indeed possible. I do not know of any Malian explorers from the 14th century, but I don't deny their existence either. But does such ridiculous exception really merit representation in the game? For what purpose? It doesn't illustrate how life was back then, as the overwhelming majority of people would've gone their whole lives without meeting such an explorer. Why is there a desire to find however improbable excuse to include nigs in the game?

 

[thr]

The guy who posted it on 4chan is saying the Malian guy is the doctor at Sigismund's war camp.

That would be hilarious, because that would mean Warhorse acknowledging all the woke journos accusing them of racism being right all along - a negro as a part of Sigismund's army could have been included even in the first game! They just decided against it because they were racist! The commonly used justification of more diversity in a bigger, more cosmopolitan city doesn't apply in this case. Total self-humiliation.

Btw this is election bilboard of a czech parliamentary party from this years, which was displayed on the main Prague square. Can't imagine czechs being more welcoming to black doctors in 1403 lol.

Shortcomings in healthcare will not be solved by imported "surgeons".

 

[DKunit]

It still would make sense to have not seen any in the first game. Apart from the small group of Cuman forces at Pribyslavitz and the scattered Cuman camps, we were mostly fighting Toth's bandit militia. The large majority of Sigismund forces would have been stationed out of our reach.

 

[thr]

It still would make sense to have not seen any in the first game. Apart from the small group of Cuman forces at Pribyslavitz and the scattered Cuman camps, we were mostly fighting Toth's bandit militia. The large majority of Sigismund forces would have been stationed out of our reach.

Not really relevant, they could have included a small group of sigismunds soldiers with a black doctor if they wanted. The point is they were not limited by the small settlements, because the token black character is not bound to the trade, but to the sigismund's army, which clearly had presence in the area where the original game takes place.

 

[TC Jr]

As long as he's non-essential...

Spoiler

Still gay as fuck if true, not just having a nigger but the whole "we're better than you.." bollocks.

 

[Harthwain]

Post on reddit with this screenshot has been locked and removed. The official reason for the lock/removal is leaking a spoiler that doesn't originate from Warhorse Studios. I am curious to see if this news spreads around the Web and how Vavra himself will react to it, provided there will be any official reaction at all (the release is still roughly a month away).

That said, there was an official interview with IGN, in which Tobias Stolz-Zwilling (Warhorse PR Manager) said:

As mentioned already, Henry is embarking on a journey from the countryside and local quarrels to a relatively cosmopolitan city that is besieged and occupied by the invading king. Naturally, in a place like this, people can expect a wide range of ethnicities and different characters that Henry will meet on his journey.

So "a relatively cosmopolitan city", one "that is besieged and occupied by the invading king" had a black doctor in it (because he was, apparently, a traveler) and after Sigismund took the city he needed an imported surgeon? Frankly, that's pretty far-fetched reason for this inclusion to me. But I guess all the talk about cosmopolity and "a wide range of ethnicities" does make sense now.

 

[Tyranicon]

Seeing how many people on the internet seem to hold a grudge against Vavra and the first game for "reasons" I'm much more inclined to take all this with a large heaping of salt.

 

[Cpt. Dallas]

Shady cafe. Rain outside. Small steaming cups of coffee. Crack in bar mirror.

Man with large nose and a black trench coat slips Vavra a large envelope of cash. Briefly zoom in on return address: 'Blackrock, c/o Sweet Baby.'

'Yes sir. It will be done. Black as tar.'
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Aaaaand, SCENE!

 

[Melcar]

Next they will tell us he's from Wakanda.

 

[Thalstarion]

I honestly think it could go either way at this point. Though I honestly do not care for that particular brand of 'diversity' and simply will not purchase the game if it turns out to be true.

On the other hand, there's a lot of salty and committed saboteurs who are desperate to harm sales of games so it could be a well done fake by someone particularly spiteful.

I urge sensible caution. Prepare for both outcomes, especially since it is a common tactic for an initial title to be excellent and a subsequent sequel to be injected with this nonsense.

 

[Jaesun]

Have an odd feeling that's not fake. But we shall see...

 

[Wasteland]

Have an odd feeling that's not fake. But we shall see...

Plot twist: in the next scene, Henry punches the guy out for stealing his bike

 

[Konjad]

Probably a token black so nobody can say anymore that KCD isn't multicultural (and multiculturalism, as we know, means blacks).

 

[cvv]

Probably a token black so nobody can say anymore that KCD isn't multicultural

Yea but isn't tokenism bad? I mean IIRC the progs considered it bad way before we did.

Plus it's the same exact case as the Turk merchant (or whatever the fuck he was) in TW3 and I don't remember CDPR getting any accolades for him.

Goddam this is so disappointing, what were they thinking.

 

[Konjad]

Probably a token black so nobody can say anymore that KCD isn't multicultural

Yea but isn't tokenism bad?

I didn't claim otherwise.