Japanese devs about Chinese games

[itsme]

“If you’ve worked on a Chinese game, you’ll know production scale is on a whole other level” Japanese devs discuss growing quality of Chinese games

https://automaton-media.com/en/news...evs-discuss-growing-quality-of-chinese-games/

 

[Falksi]

CHRPGS?

 

[Shinji]

Please note that this article is predominantly about both countries’ mobile/gacha game scenes.

So, a nothingburger.

Both America and China can produce better visuals and better animations by throwing money at the problem, but when it comes to gameplay they're all hopeless.

 

[Dark Souls II]

Wake me up when China invents lolis

 

[Lagole Gon]

Name five chinese games that are not souless slop.

 

[Whipping Post]

Name five chinese games that are not souless slop.

Prince of Qin
Capitalism II
Kart Fighter
SideLine
Wukong

 

[Lagole Gon]

Name five chinese games that are not souless slop.

Prince of Qin
Capitalism II
Kart Fighter
SideLine
Wukong

...
You listed here a taiwanese bootleg game... based on japanese intellectual property.

 

[Abu Antar]

Name five chinese games that are not souless slop.

Hero's Adventure, Scrolls of Taiwu, Chinese Paladin, Guijan, Tale of Wuxia + the rest of Heluo Studio games.

 

[Whipping Post]

Name five chinese games that are not souless slop.

Prince of Qin
Capitalism II
Kart Fighter
SideLine
Wukong

...
You listed here a taiwanese bootleg game... based on japanese intellectual property.

Yes, Taiwan AKA The Republic of China.

 

[itsme]

The talk in the article is specifically about gacha games. No point in denying the fact Chinese big budget gachas nowadays are a head and above anything japs can produce. Nevertheless I think itd be reasonable to project this on to the Chinese gamedev as a whole. Chinks have more disposable income nowadays and they are ready and willing to spend it on gachas and other video games. Chinese video games market will probably continue to grow unless CCP says otherwise.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

As I said before: Wake me up when they make Chinese/Japanese Fallout (OG Fallout of course).

 

[Nutmeg]

As I said before: Wake me up when they make Chinese/Japanese Fallout (OG Fallout of course).

Chinese game about post apocalyptic USA which got taken over by Japan in the 80s.

 

[Zlaja]

Gacha games are fucking cancer and these games actively abuse one of the worst aspects of East-Asian culture (the whole fate/luck bs they keep obsessing over).

 

[Cat Dude]

Now CRPG could stand for Chinese Rpg.

 

[Sibelius]

Name five chinese games that are not souless slop.

Prince of Qin
Capitalism II
Kart Fighter
SideLine
Wukong

Would add Gujian 3, Xuan Yuan Sword 7 and The Wind Road to that list. They are not perfect, have varying levels of jank, but there is genuine care and passion in all of those titles, I would prefer to replay any of them before playing Western soulless shit like Starfield. I played Starfield to level 14 and couldn't bear it any longer.

 

[Renfri]

Name five chinese games that are not souless slop.

Prince of Qin
Capitalism II
Kart Fighter
SideLine
Wukong

Would add Gujian 3, Xuan Yuan Sword 7 and The Wind Road to that list. They are not perfect, have varying levels of jank, but there is genuine care and passion in all of those titles, I would prefer to replay any of them before playing Western soulless shit like Starfield. I played Starfield to level 14 and couldn't bear it any longer.

I'll add few more:

Wandering Sword
Hero's Adventure: Road to Passion
Tale of Immortal
Bloody Spell
Sword and Fairy 7
Ho Tu Lo Shu: the Book of Dragon

 

[Morgoth]

CHRPGS?

CCRPGs.

 

[Trash Player]

Amazing Cultivation Simulator? Dyson Sphere Program?

 

[Luka-boy]

CHRPGS?

PoohRPGs.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Do I really need to look up these Chink games?

 

[GamerCat_]

I get a lot of Zenless Zone Zero stuff in my twitter feed (wonder why?).

There is a kind of corporate element to this, how it's just set in an idealised nice city, but making something this nice and frictionless at scale really is an open niche. Japanese stuff is nice but tends to divide its attention across loads of smaller projects (excellent for market health and culture). If you're going to have a 'AAA' industry it should either be undertaking Heaven's Gate style suicidally ambitious true artfag endeavours constantly, or it should be just be making great quality stuff that's solid and hits lots of real bases well for the masses to employ lots of people, enable some expression (whoever got to design sweatervest catmancop is surely very appreciative of their job), move money around, make people happy.

If guys like Kojima being allowed to make gigabudget supergames is ascended AAA, this is at least light AAA, while dark AAA is the Call of Duty mines, and some poor bastards being forced to spend years of their lives making Immortals of Aveum.

China's AAA gacha is a good industry. Shining example of what actually cynical corporate interest driven video games look like. That should lead to results that are frictionless, pleasant, almost universally appealing and easy to get into. People who blame corporate ruthlessness for the western industry producing a lot of unplayable dogshit are confused. That's not cynicism. That's sheer incompetence. When it's not malevolence paired with USAID making financial success an outright non-factor in production considerations.

They can spend a gajillion dollars and man-hours animating the catcop because he's going to make it back. Because he's great.

 

[Morenatsu.]

Chynacha games are merely mildly pleasing, but the vapid fake-anime aesthetics, mobile-console design made out of lolpopulartrend shit, and dreadfully boring please shut the fuck up writing, it's too much (little) for me or really anyone. I'd even rather play some crummy Korean games because at least there is a long legacy of crap scam MMOs behind those.

 

[Tehdagah]

I get a lot of Zenless Zone Zero stuff in my twitter feed (wonder why?).

There is a kind of corporate element to this, how it's just set in an idealised nice city, but making something this nice and frictionless at scale really is an open niche. Japanese stuff is nice but tends to divide its attention across loads of smaller projects (excellent for market health and culture). If you're going to have a 'AAA' industry it should either be undertaking Heaven's Gate style suicidally ambitious true artfag endeavours constantly, or it should be just be making great quality stuff that's solid and hits lots of real bases well for the masses to employ lots of people, enable some expression (whoever got to design sweatervest catmancop is surely very appreciative of their job), move money around, make people happy.

If guys like Kojima being allowed to make gigabudget supergames is ascended AAA, this is at least light AAA, while dark AAA is the Call of Duty mines, and some poor bastards being forced to spend years of their lives making Immortals of Aveum.

China's AAA gacha is a good industry. Shining example of what actually cynical corporate interest driven video games look like. That should lead to results that are frictionless, pleasant, almost universally appealing and easy to get into. People who blame corporate ruthlessness for the western industry producing a lot of unplayable dogshit are confused. That's not cynicism. That's sheer incompetence. When it's not malevolence paired with USAID making financial success an outright non-factor in production considerations.

They can spend a gajillion dollars and man-hours animating the catcop because he's going to make it back. Because he's great.

And it's all ruined by gatcha.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Is that GamerCat in the picture. Is that X scar an Xbox tattoo?

"Seth"
That big brother told me that it was a big deal.
I wonder if I am able to do something that deserves recognition...

 

[GamerCat_]

And it's all ruined by gatcha.

Is it really?