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[Atlantico]

Every grouping for everything ever is arbitrary and has edge cases that don't neatly fit you dumb tranny.

Blobber does exactly that: it tells you how many characters a game has (more than 1) and how you move through its world (multiple characters moving as one).
It's a valid definition that's easy to understand.

So the only difference between Bioshock and Dungeon Master, is the number of characters. Otherwise Bioshock would be a blobber?

I'm trying to nail down this handy and easy to understand term.

 

[KateMicucci]

Having sex with other men is gay. But what if the man you were having sex with was a woman? Does it suddenly then become not gay, just because it's a woman instead of a man? What if the man has long hair? What if the woman has a penis, is it still not gay?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

similarly, this game's genre is now "soloer"
Soloer does exactly that: it tells you how many characters a game has (1) and how you move through its world (single character moving as one).

 

[Atlantico]

Having sex with other men is gay. But what if the man you were having sex with was a woman? Does it suddenly then become not gay, just because it's a woman instead of a man? What if the man has long hair? What if the woman has a penis, is it still not gay?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

here's another soloer game btw

 

[Darth Canoli]

check out this blobber

Funny because Xulima is arguably a blobber.
I think it's not because the first person view is part of the deal so it's an hybrid but i'm not sure the game would have been better with a first person view.

Also, it shows how little you know about RPG because Xulima was heavily discussed here already.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

check out this blobber

Funny because Xulima is arguably a blobber.
I think it's not because the first person view is part of the deal so it's an hybrid but i'm not sure the game would have been better with a first person view.

what is your favorite soloer game? do you prefer gothic or ultima underworld?

 

[JarlFrank]

Every grouping for everything ever is arbitrary and has edge cases that don't neatly fit you dumb tranny.

Blobber does exactly that: it tells you how many characters a game has (more than 1) and how you move through its world (multiple characters moving as one).
It's a valid definition that's easy to understand.

So the only difference between Bioshock and Dungeon Master, is the number of characters. Otherwise Bioshock would be a blobber?

I'm trying to nail down this handy and easy to understand term.

I don't know what your point is here. Bioshock focuses more on action FPS mechanics and only has light RPG elements, so it doesn't even quality as an RPG.
System Shock 2 has stronger RPG elements than Bioshock, and if you could have multiple characters in that game... then yes, it would be a blobber. Kinda like the later Might and Magics.

The term "dungeon crawler" is similar in its utility. It refers to any game where crawling dungeons is the primary gameplay element. It is a useful term because sometimes, what you're looking for is exactly that: a game where you crawl dungeons, and you don't care how exactly that crawling happens.
Ultima Underworld is a dungeon crawler.
So is Wizardry.
Dungeon Master.
Knights of the Chalice.
Arx Fatalis.
Diablo.
arguably even a non-RPG action game like Blade of Darkness can be called a dungeon crawler

What's the utility of this term if it applies to such a broad spectrum of different games?
Because, as I said, sometimes you're just looking for a game that gives you a certain experience. Sometimes you just wanna crawl through dungeons.

And sometimes, you just want to play a first person exploration-focused RPG where you control a party of multiple characters yet the movement controls work as if they were a single guy.

 

[Darth Canoli]

what is your favorite soloer game? do you prefer gothic or ultima underworld?

Gothic is a walking simulator.
Ultima Underworld a single character dungeon crawler.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

what is your favorite soloer game? do you prefer gothic or ultima underworld?

Gothic is a walking simulator.
Ultima Underworld a single character dungeon crawler.

no, they're soloers.

 

[KateMicucci]

what is your favorite soloer game? do you prefer gothic or ultima underworld?

It may not make much of a difference to you, but to me, there is a big difference between the feeling of a soloer like Ultima Underworld and a blobber, even if the rest of the game mechanics are identical. Moving a group of guys as if it's one guy feels very weird and I can't get over it.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

what is your favorite soloer game? do you prefer gothic or ultima underworld?

It may not make much of a difference to you, but to me, there is a big difference between the feeling of a soloer like Ultima Underworld and a blobber, even if the rest of the game mechanics are identical. Moving a group of guys as if it's one guy feels very weird and I can't get over it.

so what's your favorite soloer?
do you prefer elex?

 

[Sigourn]

OK the what sets Skyrim apart from blobbers, other than there is just one character being controlled in Skyrim?

This is like asking what sets men apart from women, other than having different chromosomes...

Try controlling two characters at once and as a single entity in Skyrim, and you will see how suddenly the entire fucking game has to be redesigned to account for this.

 

[octavius]

Gold Box games are also dungeon crawlers.
Diablo is a dungeon crawler.
Ultima Underworld and Arx Fatalis are dungeon crawlers.
Knights of the Chalice is a dungeon crawler.

The important difference is how you crawl the dungeons in those games.

In blobbers, you crawl them as a blob.

I just they play them. I'm weird that way.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

diablo, now there's a good soloer.

 

[KateMicucci]

what is your favorite soloer game? do you prefer gothic or ultima underworld?

It may not make much of a difference to you, but to me, there is a big difference between the feeling of a soloer like Ultima Underworld and a blobber, even if the rest of the game mechanics are identical. Moving a group of guys as if it's one guy feels very weird and I can't get over it.

so what's your favorite soloer?
do you prefer elex?

Enderal.

I haven't played Elex mostly because I don't like the setting.

I don't know what point you're trying to make.

 

[Grauken]

Gold Box games are also dungeon crawlers.
Diablo is a dungeon crawler.
Ultima Underworld and Arx Fatalis are dungeon crawlers.
Knights of the Chalice is a dungeon crawler.

The important difference is how you crawl the dungeons in those games.

In blobbers, you crawl them as a blob.

I just play them. I'm weird that way.

Blobber friends no more

 

[rusty_shackleford]

we need to make a differentiation between games that are always soloers like UU and soloers that become groupers like fallout new vegas
sologrouper perhaps

 

[Sigourn]

This definition sucks rocks. Everyone has their own little exceptions and explanations as to why it doesn't fit the Gold Box games, but does fit some jrpgs. It's a mess.

There's no "little exception" involved. If the blobber stops behaving like a blobber (Gold Box games letting you move your party members individually) then it's no blobber.
Last time I checked, a Japanese dungeon crawler is STILL a dungeon crawler, so why would their games get special treatment when categorizing them as blobbers or not?

And you can put forth the argument that Dungeon Master with one or three party members is the same game. But the thing is, Skyrim wasn't designed to accomodate multiple party members at once. If it was, then you could put forth the argument that "Skyrim with just one or three party memebrs is the same".

But it isn't. It would play completely different if it was designed as a party-based blobber.

 

[KateMicucci]

we need to make a differentiation between games that are always soloers like UU and soloers that become groupers like fallout new vegas
sologrouper perhaps

https://psychology.fandom.com/wiki/Lumpers_and_splitters

 

[octavius]

Blobber friends no more

We were comrades-in-blobbery and then you walked out on me without a word. Never a word of explanation. Are all you blobberers like that?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

we need to make a differentiation between games that are always soloers like UU and soloers that become groupers like fallout new vegas
sologrouper perhaps

https://psychology.fandom.com/wiki/Lumpers_and_splitters

stop posting anti-blobber bigotry

 

[octavius]

Anti-blobbites should be tried for Hate Crime.

 

[NJClaw]

I can't remember the last time I went on a spergout.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I can't remember the last time I went on a spergout.

you haven't seen me on a spergout yet