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Like, how do words work? A guy who has never seen a car suddenly knows what it is upon hearing car? Weird

Sure and then some guy says; no no this isn't a car that's too generic — trains have cars — it's a wobbler.

That's the issue, not that words are strange sometimes.
 

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Like, how do words work? A guy who has never seen a car suddenly knows what it is upon hearing car? Weird

Sure and then some guy says; no no this isn't a car that's too generic — trains have cars — it's a wobbler.

That's the issue, not that words are strange sometimes.

People do differentiate between trucks, vans, cars, motorbikes...

There are multiple different types of "vehicle with combustible engine and wheels" and it makes sense to categorize them based on their traits.
 

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There are multiple different types of "vehicle with combustible engine and wheels" and it makes sense to categorize them based on their traits.

Right, it does make sense. That's all good. Categories are good.

It would seem to me that the category of "blobbers" must be derived from the name. Some grognard here thought it was funny and his disciples picked up on it.

Not to mention RPG Watch.

Boom: new category is formed. Fantastic.

There is only one slight problem: categorizing games on perceived movement doesn't make sense, because you'll lump together games that have nothing to do with each other.

So the term is necessarily narrowed down, to add the 3D movement, the multiple characters, etc.

The only problem with that, is that now that the definition is "clearer", the name isn't useful or clarifying anymore.

Which begs the question: was it ever?

If you look at a game like Dungeon Master or Ishar or Eye of the Beholder, there is nothing that indicates that the characters are fused together. Quite the opposite, they can all be rearranged, they only travel as a group.

It always comes back to being a "lul" term which was never accurate, useful or descriptive — but it survived (such as it is) because of this "lul".

Not because it's a useful term. As such, it's bad categorization.
 

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You know what an abstraction is, right?

Sure, and I appreciate abstractions when they make sense and are useful.

By the way, how is your box of chocolates* these days? Good I hope.

*one's life is like a box of chocolates, it's an abstraction to explain a complicated idea — and yet it would be unhelpful to use that abstraction under that term
 

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Yes, it is possible to abstract the blob. You heat it until it partially melts, thus separating the characters that you can then reorder. Once the reordered characters cool down enough they fuse back together. It's called abstracting the blob.
 

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You know what an abstraction is, right?

Sure, and I appreciate abstractions when they make sense and are useful.

By the way, how is your box of chocolates* these days? Good I hope.

*one's life is like a box of chocolates, it's an abstraction to explain a complicated idea — and yet it would be unhelpful to use that abstraction under that term

That's a metaphor, you dumb shit.

I honestly don't know what you are trying to prove anymore.
You claim the term is not useful... and yet reality proves you wrong, because it's useful enough that it became popular to describe those type of games.
 

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That's a metaphor, you dumb shit.

It's a simile actually, you dumb sudaco.

So is saying that the movement and grouping of people in Eye of the Beholder is like a blob.

You claim the term is not useful... and yet reality proves you wrong, because it's useful enough that it became popular to describe those type of games.

It's a "popular" term like you're "popular" with the ladies.
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I have a confession to make. The reason I love blobbers and consider myself a blobberer is because
my real name is Bob Lehrer.
 

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Popular enough that pretty much nobody on this thread agrees with you.

Simping for neckbeards.

Imagine how wrong you must be for the Codex to agree with me on something.

Well, Grauken, Roguey and JarlFrank are good guys, but they're not "the Codex".

I have a confession to make. The reason I love blobbers and consider myself a blobberer is because

And I hate the term because my name is Bob Loblaw.
 
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I never knew rusty_shackleford and Atlantico were so offended by the term blobber.

Several things are clear though.
1.) You both fully understand the definition of a blobber and what it is.
2.) You are mad that you think a silly word is being applied to something you like and want to be addressed with a more dignified name.
3.) You can't just say you are offended and upset since no one cares about your feelings. So you are inventing some silly outlandish arguments you don't actually believe yourself to delegitimize the term you have come to hate with such a passion.
4.) Your efforts will fail. Everyone here, both fans and critics of the blobber style of games, will continue using the term because it is a very easy to understand and descriptive name for that style of game.
why would I care? nobody outside of this site uses the word, I just value the intention of language rather than making up clubhouse codewords
 

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You both fully understand the definition of a blobber and what it is.

Not really, no. I thought I did, I thought it was just a silly colloquialism for a Wizardry-style game. But no, it's way more and way less.

You are mad that you think a silly word is being applied to something you like and want to be addressed with a more dignified name.

Not really, no. Perhaps "blobber" is not a dignified name, but "gridder" is just as stupid and useless. A more dignified stupid and useless term is still stupid and useless.

You can't just say you are offended and upset since no one cares about your feelings. So you are inventing some silly outlandish arguments you don't actually believe yourself to delegitimize the term you have come to hate with such a passion.

Not really, no. I am however surprised that people here defend the term, as if it has any value. That is bizarre to me.

Your efforts will fail. Everyone here, both fans and critics of the blobber style of games, will continue using the term because it is a very easy to understand and descriptive name for that style of game.

Not really, no. Because you can't even define what a "blobber" is, nor is it used outside a fringe neckbeard group on this forum. It's basically a useless term, it's a non-starter.
 
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rusty_shackleford and Atlantico, why don't you get it finally that every single game is a blobber; you just need to put a few more words before it and then it's clear what you're talking about?

By the way, it's inconsequential what we think; we should ask the game whether it identifies as a blobber or not.

I demand a "Member of the Cult of Blob" tag for every member that identifies games as "blobbers" against their wishes!
 

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I guess, to turn Skyrim into a blobber you need several sets of hp/stamina bars, cooldown on attacks and body parts targeting from enemies, like head is char one, left hand is char two etc.

Don't forget separate inventories and custom abilities for each body part, and I am sold.
 

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Funny thread, keep going

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I love blobbers <3 A few of them anyway.
 

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