Drakron said:Honestly TES dont have enough information for TIL need a new format, making it a Wiki would not improve TIL in any way.
MrSmileyFaceDude said:Because it'd be easier to add new info
Sinder Velvin said:MrSmileyFaceDude said:Because it'd be easier to add new info
I think there's already enough bias at TIL, even though we staff members supposedly know the lore well and even though we supposedly look at things from a rather objective point of view.
Do we really need more bias?
Do we really need 13 year olds writing comments like "Orcz0rz are teh uber, OMGWTFLOL"?
In my opinion, More Staff Members > Wiki.
MrSmileyFaceDude said:I wouldn't advocate opening up article submission/modification to EVERYONE
MrSmileyFaceDude said:But hey, it was just a thought. I'm not trying to tell you how to run your site.
Proweler said:It's Sinders site? Damd, didn't knew that. Always thought it was Xanathar.
Sinder Velvin said:MrSmileyFaceDude said:But hey, it was just a thought. I'm not trying to tell you how to run your site.
Well, your opinion does matter very much to me.
It's just that I hate the disadvantages of Wiki more than I love the advantages.
Proweler said:It's Sinders site? Damd, didn't knew that. Always thought it was Xanathar.
I think "your" was used in the plural.
But yes, I'm just another staff member. Xan's the one who started it all.
Although we use a veto system, if Xan decides he wants Wiki, I'll accept his decision.
GhanBuriGhan said:Its noteworthy that this guide was started by my good friend Raptormeat at Aldrien's chalice. He is now a Bethesda Dev. Yes, TES lore is fun, and surprisingly deep in its ambiguity. In the past there were great forum "dicusions" with developers impersonating in-game characters. It's indeed one of my favourite aspecst of the series.
stalin_brando said:Which one?
Twinfalls said:Tintin, seriously.
You are a fucking joke. Don't you realise just how stupid you look to everyone who visits here? I'm giving you a useful suggestion. If you are too stupid to understand discussion, you'll be doing yourself a big favour by just fucking back off to the TES forum. Yes, you are a stupid, useless little twat. But at least you'll be amongst some good company there.
In other news, Part 1 of the Douglas Goodall interview has been removed.
Fintilgin said:Speaking of how old the thread is, the origional interview everyone is discussing seems to have been removed from the site in question. All that link leads to now is a bit where he's pretending to be a Kajiit.
Twinfalls said:And Sinder instead of necroing old threads, how about you explain why the Goodall interview has been removed? Hey - I'm an ex-dev too - I want the interview put back there.
This Goodall thing is actually some serious shit. Perhaps you might want to provide some answers in the new thread I start on this.
Wow, I didn't know that. What games did you work on?Twinfalls said:Hey - I'm an ex-dev too - I want the interview put back there.
kathode said:Someone's a Doug Goodall fanTwinfalls said:And this is why I hope TES in future avoids going down the 'making everything metaphoric for human historical eras' path - the 'Cyrodiil is now Ancient Rome' thing. We need original, fantastical game worlds to flourish.
MrSmileyFaceDude said:Twinfalls said:Yes, but the points he made are very, very valid, non?
No, I don't think so. I think you're just latching on to him because he's speaking out against Bethesda's practices, and you're not realizing that he's really speaking out of bitterness over not being able to change things to the way HE wanted them.
Twinfalls said:I'll be honest, MSFD: I am latching onto him because he has perfectly articulated almost every single reason I was so disappointed with Morrowind.
In the order in which he raises them:
1. Jettisoning procedural quests and game-world;
2. Poor, inchoate MQ (to which I'd add cliched - 'you are the chosen one');
3. Discarding of analogue combat;
4. Wiki dialogue depriving the player of any real character role-play and development;
5. Lack of interesting NPC characters;
6. Turning Cyrodiilians into Romans (ie contradicting lore, moving away from original fantasy.)
To which I would add removal of skills and factions, and discarding of multiple MQ paths and multiple resolutions.
Notice I did not focus on his disagreements with Ken or anyone else. The list above stands up regardless of the rights/wrongs/history of his personal interactions with others, or his motivation in speaking. That stuff is not relevant here, MSFD, and your focus on that strikes me as a red herring.
Thanks for the response. Rosh didn't respond when I asked him what he worked on, so now that he's not here to defend himself I encourage everyone more knowledgeable than I to slander his work here.Twinfalls said:TGGP - I'm not really.
Well, I did write a version of Pong for the c64. It had two balls.
TWO BALLS