Vapourware A new Deus Ex was in development at Eidos Montreal

[Anonymous Ranger]

Could mean that the game isn't far enough along to have VA work, or could mean that the new game isn't a Jensen game.

It will be a remake of the first Deus Ex.

Please no anything but that the game is fine as it is. If any game in the Deus Ex series should be remade it should be Invisible War because the setting was interesting but the game as a whole had issues.

 

[Cross]

Could mean that the game isn't far enough along to have VA work, or could mean that the new game isn't a Jensen game.

It will be a remake of the first Deus Ex.

Why would you think that? While there have been dozens of triple-A remakes of older console games, as far as I can tell, there hasn't been a single triple-A remake of an old PC game. Black Mesa doesn't count because it's fan-made. System Shock obviously isn't triple-A. Though it wouldn't surprise me if Warcraft III: Reforged cost a ton to make since Blizzard is so incompetent.

The modern Deus Ex games have a completely different design philosophy from the original, so I find it hard to believe Eidos would revisit something they deliberately ditched.

Then there's the subject matter, which nobody in the games industry would be willing to touch. Warren Spector himself recently denounced the original game for its "conspiracy theories".

 

[deuxhero]

Deus Ex is such a mess on current systems and has some major unfixed bugs it could warrant an actual remaster (as in from original master files) with no non-bugfix changes (except maybe an option for PS2 graphics). Wouldn't be something to put Eidos proper on though.

 

[Average Manatee]

Deus Ex has an official remaster. It's called Revision

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

It will be a remake of the first Deus Ex.

Can't be done. First DX was far too based for normies to handle. One visit to Hong Kong and libshits' heads would explode.



The entire plot about the government creating a virus to take over the world via a vaccine regime hits close enough to home that you could see some "peaceful protests" outside EIDOS HQ.

If there is a remake, my guess is that it will be a watered down POS with little real conspiracy stuff left in it. Who knows, maybe as a way to get people to avoid playing the original.

 

[blessed king of longing]

a remake or remaster doesnt make much sense, i don't see them coming out with anything but new material.

 

[Spacer's Nugget]

As of the beginning of the year, some key Eidos-Montréal devs that worked on the latest Deus Ex games moved to an unannounced project. Also of note, you can see via LinkedIn that several level designers that worked on Far Cry 6 and/or the next BioShock joined the studio in the past few months, including people that had left the studio before (around the time Square-Enix canceled Project MD2). I think something is up.

 

[RobotSquirrel]

It will be a remake of the first Deus Ex.

Human Revolution and Mankind Divided sales dwarfed the original's
https://www.siliconera.com/deus-ex-human-revolution-and-mankind-divided-sales-reach-12-million/

I can't get exact figures but to date Deus Ex 1's sale figures are sub 2 million - the last time it was checked was in 2011 where the actual recorded figure was 1 Million units.
Based on these figures though its less likely to be a Deus Ex 1 title. I'm not going to say its impossible - it could be someone important's "vanity project" but based on what evidence we have, it makes more business sense to continue the Jensen story - and Invisible War would also make them adverse to doing anything related to the original even though Deus Ex 1 has a lot of fans, but if you run the numbers Human Revolution has more.

Bit of a bitter pill to swallow but facts are facts.

Deus Ex has an official remaster. It's called Revision

ain't official bud. Otherwise you'd be calling me an official developer. Check the credits of who's work they used.
Also GMDX is better there I said it lol
I still need to do a helios texture run because I think they surpassed the work we did, it looks REALLY good. I think the Reimagined textures though go a bit too far.

 

[Gargaune]

It will be a remake of the first Deus Ex.

Please don't. Please.

Deus Ex is such a mess on current systems

Worked fine for me up until Windows 10, all Unreal games did. After that, I started needing Kentie's D3D10 renderers, but that's it.

 

[deuxhero]

Deus Ex is such a mess on current systems

Worked fine for me up until Windows 10, all Unreal games did. After that, I started needing Kentie's D3D10 renderers, but that's it.

I played it on Windows 7 last year, it absolutely did not work well without that third party hack. If a game needs third party mods to function, it's a mess.

 

[Lacrymas]

The OG definitely doesn't need a remake. I'm down for a remake of Invisible War, it's hands down the worst Deus Ex title. As for Elias, who knows, they might still not need to record the VA or they might be going for a different protagonist this time around. Or they just aren't working on a new Deus Ex title ;d

 

[fuzz]

Deus Ex is such a mess on current systems and has some major unfixed bugs it could warrant an actual remaster (as in from original master files) with no non-bugfix changes (except maybe an option for PS2 graphics). Wouldn't be something to put Eidos proper on though.

Works fine for years via Lutris.

 

[tommy heavenly6]

Deus Ex is such a mess on current systems and has some major unfixed bugs it could warrant an actual remaster (as in from original master files) with no non-bugfix changes (except maybe an option for PS2 graphics). Wouldn't be something to put Eidos proper on though.

Works fine for years via Lutris.

It's funny how Linux has become the defacto best way to play old Windows games.

 

[duskvile]

I want fresh new Deus Ex and Thief. Thanks.

 

[vota DC]

What about nameless mod remake?

 

[Gargaune]

I played it on Windows 7 last year, it absolutely did not work well without that third party hack.

I thought it might be something related to DX7 handling on different Windows versions, but must be something else then.

If a game needs third party mods to function, it's a mess.

Eh, don't need to go into the semantics, I agree with your general sentiment - it is broken on modern platforms. Distributors really should integrate a minimalist configuration of Kentie's D3D10 renderer and DeusExe launcher with it at this point, like GOG did with TFix Lite for Thief.

 

[J1M]

It will be a remake of the first Deus Ex.

Human Revolution and Mankind Divided sales dwarfed the original's
https://www.siliconera.com/deus-ex-human-revolution-and-mankind-divided-sales-reach-12-million/

I can't get exact figures but to date Deus Ex 1's sale figures are sub 2 million - the last time it was checked was in 2011 where the actual recorded figure was 1 Million units.
Based on these figures though its less likely to be a Deus Ex 1 title. I'm not going to say its impossible - it could be someone important's "vanity project" but based on what evidence we have, it makes more business sense to continue the Jensen story - and Invisible War would also make them adverse to doing anything related to the original even though Deus Ex 1 has a lot of fans, but if you run the numbers Human Revolution has more.

Bit of a bitter pill to swallow but facts are facts.

Deus Ex has an official remaster. It's called Revision

ain't official bud. Otherwise you'd be calling me an official developer. Check the credits of who's work they used.
Also GMDX is better there I said it lol
I still need to do a helios texture run because I think they surpassed the work we did, it looks REALLY good. I think the Reimagined textures though go a bit too far.

Is this post in good faith?

Deus Ex selling over a million boxed PC copies in 2000 is more impressive than the obsfucated multiplatform sales of Mankind Divided. As you say, facts are facts: Deus Ex's sales immediately warranted greenlighting a sequel. Mankind Divided's sales cancelled a trilogy.

I am not aware of any public numbers for Deus Ex and Invisible War that would allow you to directly compare heavily discounted digital sales of those games with the 12m sales of the more recent titles.

Again, facts are facts, and Mankind Divided does not have the legacy of being one of the best games ever made.

 

[RobotSquirrel]

I am not aware of any public numbers for Deus Ex and Invisible War that would allow you to directly compare heavily discounted digital sales of those games with the 12m sales of the more recent titles.

I told you already, the only figures we have are from 2011, Embracer seems to be leveraging more on Human Revolution that by 2011 had sold more than the original Deus Ex.
The problem is that Mankind Divided is bundled in with Human Revolutions sales figures. This is Embracers interpretation not mine. and yeah it reeks of a lack of transparency on their part they are covering up that Mankind Divided was a flop.
Human Revolution in its first year sold more than Deus Ex 1 and Invisible War combined.
Invisible War in 2011 sold more units than Deus Ex 1 (probably because it was on Xbox).

The Deux Ex series has sold over 16.4 million copies.​

(Source: VG Chartz)

• The original Deus Ex sold 1.1 million copies.
• Deus Ex: Invisible War sold 1.3 million copies.
• Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and Human Revolution sold 12 million copies.
• Deus Ex Go and The Fall sold 2 million copies.

I mean ultimately its hard to say what they'll do but looking at it, the franchise is in a mess at the moment Human Revolution appears to be the best selling game total. Embracer will be looking at it from the perspective of "how do we replicate those figures specifically"
I'm trying to give you objective truth here. Objective truth is, Human Revolution is the best selling Deus Ex title.

What about nameless mod remake?

Didn't that already happen? I thought they already did that? Yes TNM 2.0 is a thing apparently.

 

[J1M]

I am not aware of any public numbers for Deus Ex and Invisible War that would allow you to directly compare heavily discounted digital sales of those games with the 12m sales of the more recent titles.

I told you already, the only figures we have are from 2011, Embracer seems to be leveraging more on Human Revolution that by 2011 had sold more than the original Deus Ex.
The problem is that Mankind Divided is bundled in with Human Revolutions sales figures. This is Embracers interpretation not mine. and yeah it reeks of a lack of transparency on their part they are covering up that Mankind Divided was a flop.
Human Revolution in its first year sold more than Deus Ex 1 and Invisible War combined.
Invisible War in 2011 sold more units than Deus Ex 1 (probably because it was on Xbox).

The Deux Ex series has sold over 16.4 million copies.​

(Source: VG Chartz)

• The original Deus Ex sold 1.1 million copies.
• Deus Ex: Invisible War sold 1.3 million copies.
• Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and Human Revolution sold 12 million copies.
• Deus Ex Go and The Fall sold 2 million copies.

I mean ultimately its hard to say what they'll do but looking at it, the franchise is in a mess at the moment Human Revolution appears to be the best selling game total. Embracer will be looking at it from the perspective of "how do we replicate those figures specifically"
I'm trying to give you objective truth here. Objective truth is, Human Revolution is the best selling Deus Ex title.

What about nameless mod remake?

Didn't that already happen? I thought they already did that? Yes TNM 2.0 is a thing apparently.

It's not an apples to apples comparison. For one, I don't believe those numbers capture 21 years of sales for the first game. More importantly, unlike Deus Ex, Human Revolution was released on 3 platforms with a large marketing push. It also had the benefit of being a sequel to a well-known franchise instead of a new IP.

The relative budgets and total size of the market was also vastly different 11 years later.

 

[RobotSquirrel]

It's not an apples to apples comparison. For one, I don't believe those numbers capture 21 years of sales for the first game. More importantly, unlike Deus Ex, Human Revolution was released on 3 platforms with a large marketing push. It also had the benefit of being a sequel to a well-known franchise instead of a new IP.

The relative budgets and total size of the market was also vastly different 11 years later.

I'm just trying to point out how AAA publishers think. It is much less likely to be Deus Ex 1 it is more likely to be another Human Revolution title. Even if they do a remake its just going to be Human Revolution with a Deus Ex 1 skin because that's obviously what Eidos Montreal would do, they're not going to just throw away their technology.

I don't believe those numbers capture 21 years of sales for the first game.

valid however its not as high as you'd think though.
https://steamdb.info/app/6910/charts/
The estimation for Steam is around 500k-1M install base. So effectively a doubling of Deus Ex's unit sales - this is current.

Invisible War barely even registers at 100k.
https://steamdb.info/app/6920/charts/

https://steamdb.info/app/238010/charts/
Human Revolution (DC) is 1-2M - the base product is even higher however its an unreliable figure.

https://steamdb.info/app/337000/charts/
Mankind Divided is sitting at 1-3M

Those are current numbers that pretty much back up what Embracer are implying that Nu-Deus Ex has a higher number of sales. A AAA publisher will always preference continuing on a trend rather than break a trend. That said Mankind Divided was a disaster - but so was Invisible War and Invisible War provably was a bigger one. Also take a look at the uptick in numbers, it had probably its biggest surge when Deus Ex Human Revolution was released - this is because I believe the first game was included as a pre-order bonus.

• Over Steam, a free copy of Deus Ex: Game of the Year Edition, which may be gifted to others if they already own it.

https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Deus_Ex:_Human_Revolution_Preorder_Packs

 

[Elthosian]

I'm not sure the numbers from the sources posted at SteamDB are accurate, but even if they aren't and the game has sold 3 million copies in the last 20 years, that would be more likely the result of the game being discounted to $0.96 a myriad of times to the point it probably didn't make them as much revenue as even a $60 title selling 100K copies on release...

 

[deuxhero]

Deus Ex is such a mess on current systems and has some major unfixed bugs it could warrant an actual remaster (as in from original master files) with no non-bugfix changes (except maybe an option for PS2 graphics). Wouldn't be something to put Eidos proper on though.

Works fine for years via Lutris.

It's funny how Linux has become the defacto best way to play old Windows games.

Also best way to play new ones that don't have third party malware. Somehow Linux has a small, but appreciable, performance advantage over Windows for many new games (less than 4 years old). Not sure how that works beyond Windows being shit, but it does.



RobotSquirrel
I can attest that I have a Steam copy of IW that I got for a few cents due to a bundle with the original. Barely played it because it's stupidly unstable. I suspect that's most IW sales.

 

[copebot]

I think at this stage, a multiplayer-only game in the DX universe would be more fun than a shitty single player with a woke plot.

 

[Elttharion]

Its dead, Jim

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[Lacrymas]

Boooo.