Incline Age of Decadence - Tips, Tricks and Spoilers

[Mozg]

You don't need any lore to get the PA, and the Ra mode isn't necessary.

It has 4 modes. With 3 power tubes in it, the modes give +3 dex, +3 strength, or some HP regeneration per turn. The fourth Ra mode you unlock with lore gives you a weakened version of all the other three modes at the same time (+2 str, +2 dex, and a slightly lower amount of HP regen.)

You can also cheese it by starting every turn in the +3 dex mode and switching to +3 strength (switching doesn't cost AP), which means you get the extra AP from the 3 dex and the damage from the 3 strength together. Just switch back to dex mode before the turn ends. Ra is just a slightly less cheesy method (also the helmet is cool).

It's also not a dealbreaker not to have it. I remember root posted a screenshot of his guy wearing a cool looking meteor manica that killed Agathoth in the psychopath thread.

 

[Daedalos]

Post the screenshots then. I firmly refuse to believe, that anybody killed him in a normal way, without cheesing him with some stupid overpowered space armor :D

 

[Rivmusique]

Definitely doable without it, seeing as the best way is alchemy consumable spam. 100% THC.

 

[Daedalos]

Definitely doable without it, seeing as the best way is alchemy consumable spam. 100% THC.

THC won't help you, when you get killed in 3 hits and knocked down. You need to be alive to be hitting him.

Even with Dex 9 and ap 11, I can't hit the guy, because he keeps knocking me down. I block zero attack with 10 block and tower shield or any.

When he knocks me down, I have to run 4 tiles to reach him, and then I've run out of AP. gg

 

[Vault Dweller]

I can't say for sure how many people killed him while wearing power armor, but overall 4.2% killed him but only 3.2% acquired the armor, so that's about 260 people difference.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

The question is how many people beat him with conventional weapons. I know I couldn't after several tries with different builds.

 

[Daedalos]

The question is how many people beat him with conventional weapons. I know I couldn't after several tries with different builds.

That's what I'm getting at. Unless you got OP armor and weapons, you won't be beating him anytime soon, unless of sheer luck rounds.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

That's what I'm getting at. Unless you got OP armor and weapons, you won't be beating him anytime soon, unless of sheer luck rounds.

That's not what I mean. Its the hardest boss, of course you're supposed to have OP armor and weapons.

I mean conventional weapons as in actual weapons. I was only able to beat him with alchemy spam.

 

[Mozg]

Crafting 10 sharpened axes are pretty ridiculous. The smallest 3 AP axes hit Ag for like 30 damage on a savage fast attack after a high alchemy berserk potion. It's whack whack whack dead.

Took several tries even with a sperged sword character. 2 AP daggers are probably closer to axe effectiveness.

 

[Elhoim]

There are several ways to beat him, but since he's practically a God they require maxing your chances, via PA, high crafting, throwing bombs (especially the Hellgate grenade), or pumping yourself with alchemy. Plus storytelling advantages like the poisoned cannister and mindshield. It should be HARD. So no "I just walked there with my high combat skills guy and he should die after whacking it." Killing him requires getting almost every advantage from the combat system.

 

[Whisper]

Is it possible to enter Zamedi tower with non-combat loremaster by not succeding Gallius quest and inviting Ordu to city?

 

[Daedalos]

Where is marcus valla fter u get the power armor?

 

[Irenaeus II]

In his new house.

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Maadoran - Merchant District - top

 

[Daedalos]

Still can't find him, can't enter any houses. check everywhere

omg finally ! hardest man to find

 

[~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-AIN'T]

That's not what I mean. Its the hardest boss, of course you're supposed to have OP armor and weapons.

I mean conventional weapons as in actual weapons. I was only able to beat him with alchemy spam.

Do you mean non-crafted weapons? Because like gozma said, crafted weapons are ridiculously good and can definitely kill that dude without alchemy.

Non-crafted I'm not sure, but I suspect a high str, 10 axe, 10 CS guy could probably do it.

 

[Agesilaus]

You could give him the anesthetic and pass the crit strike dialogue check. Does that work? If so, you could kill him with a bronze dagger from teron. How demeaning.

 

[Shadenuat]

(especially the Hellgate grenade)

It's actually not that good. It's DR ignoring ability is so weak even droid on the bridge after it blocks half or so damage from it. For all the points in Lore/Cr-.... (coughs) ...in skills required it's better to put them into Alchemy and have reliable dmg from Liquid Fire.

 

[Shadenuat]

Finished my pro-Darathan Praetor playthrough with no combat.
Not very bad but imo worse than Gaelius/Crassus lines.

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All houses except Darathan died on my watch:

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- Antidas got blue steel
- Carrinas died with help of Sohrab
- Got help from Main Jew
- Gaelius died and I left Maadoran in ruins with help of IG commander
- Meru died during his "ritual"

What I'm dissapointed with:
- Check Atia's fucking Etiquette value
- No checks for a woman with 10 CHA even for new Maadoran Lord who loves them whores
- Wanted to paint nails/rival with Lorenza
- CHA was helpful but still not crucial as INT+PER combo
- Still couldn't find that murder-quest Vince was talking about, probably has to be pro-Gaelius nstead? This asks for additional combat-oriented Praetor playthrough since dunno what to do with asassins

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- Couldn't bring flying fortress to my Lord and fuck Meru with it, and use it + blue steel to fuck Imperial Guard (unless you wake up Cthulhu, you die with him standing against Imperial Guard)
Observation: it's kinda stupid that even after completely wasting house Crassus you can still bring flying ship to them. Due to one option Meru even greets you warmly while the gates to his palace are already shut.

- That fucking crystal pre-requisite for Light Bridge couldn't be any more trolly, went with bombs (needed Alchemy to open Hangar anyway)
- Couldn't do much with my Consul title.
- Ridiculously small monetary gains.
- I think non-Praetors who are super loyal to Darathan should also get this quest line. It's perfect for Grifters after all.

 

[~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-AIN'T]

Do you mean non-crafted weapons? Because like gozma said, crafted weapons are ridiculously good and can definitely kill that dude without alchemy.

Non-crafted I'm not sure, but I suspect a high str, 10 axe, 10 CS guy could probably do it.

Alright, so Qu'est-ce que c'est, the psycho killer, did manage to beat Cthulhu without taking any alchemy or crafting and without getting the contaminated canister.

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I wasn't able to do it without cheesing the power armor modes though. And I did take a couple of neurostimulants (the one you find in the dead river and one I bought from the alchemist in Maadoran). I think the moral of the story is that CS absolutely sucks against Cthulhu (though the higher CS defense may have helped quite a bit in that fight, though it makes sense from a lore perspective, especially since

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one of the first things that happens in the become a god ending is that you create redundant organs as well as protection for them

Also, I'm not sure if this would have worked with any weapons other than axe. Maybe daggers, since lower AP costs means power attacks may have been viable, thus potentially actually getting criticals, though I'm doubtful given the lower THC. Spears might work too, since you might be able to get a few free hits, waste his AP, and prevent some of the massive knockdown attacks.

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Also I was slightly disappointed in the difficulty level when killing fucking everyone at Harran's Pass on the way to the Ordu. Didn't expect to beat it only reloading once by doing nothing more than whirlwinding like a motherfucker.

 

[Agesilaus]

I remember reading that CS no longer improves defence; the game text is old. This was back when they were trying to make CON a more important skill. The only way to improve CS defence is to have a higher constitution and a better set of armour.

 

[~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-AIN'T]

Well then CS is absolute, irredeemable garbage for that fight.

 

[Shadenuat]

Axes are really op.

 

[Daedalos]

Ugh... so I've gone and gotten the power armor with the three tubes, but it only gives me +3 str.. is that right? shouldn't I get +3 dex etc also? Bug?

REgardless, even with alchemy 8 and power armor and potions, Aglatoththth beats the living shit out of me.

It really is impossible for me to kill him it seems, even with 10 / 10 / 10 combat stats. Power armor with tubes, alchemy with bezerk and neostim.

He hits me so my AP get reduced by 2, and his mind attacks does 20-25 per round.

Even with like 150 block rating and 250+ defense rating, I'm LUCKY if I block like 1-2 hits from him.

Jeebus

 

[axedice]

Can you activate the power armor without lore?

 

[Daedalos]

Can you activate the power armor without lore?

Yes. Tubes can be inserted without any skills. Though I'm not sure if having lore gives xtra bonuses (not the RA bonus but tube bonus).. can any confirm?