Well, without bothering to read the second page here are my 2 cents: In the illegal (!) 20 minute EBGames DVD you can plainly see props, such as the carelessly-lying-around ribcage right next to your feet in your prison cell, which the demoer picks up and you can ooh and ahh over its dynamic shadowing, which reflects back on the ground and wall, until the guy drops it. If THOSE are the shadows that are gone, then I assume they should be controlled by some simple toggle. Unless they deliberately went back into the code and removed dynamic shadowing.
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Game News Another exciting Oblivion feature revealed
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elander_
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Lumpy said:
Oblivion doesn't have lightmaps that i am aware of, however pixel shaders may be used to simulate a lot of old tricks. This just means that you simply don't get any shadows besides those that are cast by other characters. Oblivion sneaking must be just factored into the amount of light in the players area, proximity to lights, if the player is in someones cone of vision and the noise the player makes.
Elwro
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http://www.ga-forum.com/showpost.php?s= ... tcount=136
Steve Meister: "The only thing that was taken out was shadows from objects sitting in the world -- things like apples and furniture. There's just too much clutter in the world, and you can interact with most of it. We could have left shadows on such objects in, but then we would have HAD to reduce their count and/or their interactivity. And we thought that maybe people might prefer having lots of stuff to interact with over reducing content just so that that apple can be nicely self-shadowed."
Steve Meister: "The only thing that was taken out was shadows from objects sitting in the world -- things like apples and furniture. There's just too much clutter in the world, and you can interact with most of it. We could have left shadows on such objects in, but then we would have HAD to reduce their count and/or their interactivity. And we thought that maybe people might prefer having lots of stuff to interact with over reducing content just so that that apple can be nicely self-shadowed."
bryce777
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mrgah said:
The betrayal came when they decided to make it on xbox as well as pc....
Jason
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kingcomrade
Kingcomrade
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Levski 1912
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Drakron
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Tintin said:
Sorry to spoil the fun guys but I just have to address this.
The reason of why the only ranged weapon was bows as it looks great, they sacrificed funtionality over graphics.
But now with shadows getting in the way (translation, not looking good) of dynamic objects they sacrificed graphics over funtionality.
But what you rather have ... "picking up a chair and move it around" or darts, throwing daggers, crossbows, etc ...?
Of course they are simply trading graphics for a gimick ... the havock engine.
I tell you what ... Bloodline had interactive objects too but for the most part they added nothing and I rather the damn chairs in that netcafe were not interactive because the NPCs in there made a mess of the place.
But we already know Bethsoft way of thinking with horses ... after all we having riding on a game were there is no mounted combat and why?
Because Bethsoft could not get it done right, they take gimicks over graphics and diversity and riding is a gimick and failed because they rather license that create their own engine to suit their needs ... no wonder their games run like shit on release and are plagued by bugs.
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franc kaos
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mrgah said:
Welcome to the club. But, it's not all doom 'n gloom, go and buy Gothic2 Gold, that'll tide you over to Gothic 3 (or Witcher, not too sure how I feel about that tho').
The funny thing is I was gonna probably have to tone down the shadowing (and probably switch off bloom altogether), but the cavalier way they have of letting their fans know about game 'changes' is just unbelievable.
Screaming_life
Liturgist
So are Beth gonna remove all their screenshots from their site and replace them with more accurate ones?
... and can we sue them for false advertising if they don't?
... and can we sue them for false advertising if they don't?
dongle
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dongle said:
Walls look so much worse.
Levski 1912
Scholar
In the new screenshot, that wall looks like it was sliced in half. Also the emperor has a damn chubby face...
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