Arcanum Arcanum is, by far, one of the worst *games* I've ever played... emphasis on "game" and not "RPG"

[Kahr]

To complete your act: Could you please shit into the next best Fallout thread and complain about...
... the merciless time limit which destroys of course the whole game for you?

Oh i got it you go there: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?forums/a-general-iron-tower-studio-one.18/ and complain how all fights are just based on luck
and how you can't win a single fight with maxed out streetwise skill.

 

[kwanzabot]

I'll say it one last time, see if people have brains to understand it: there's a difference between truly streamlining something and completely dumbing it down. Streamlining improves the experience. Adding hotkeys is streamlining, for one. Dumbing down, like removing features in the first place, doesn't improve the experience.

IF you can't understand this... well, then you are all either just trolling or plain retarded.

Thanks Lori.

Spoiler

Arcanum a shit. SHIT.

haha you suck at arcanum so you hate it


i beat arcanum when i was 12 years old

haha you're TRASH

 

[Sigourn]

To complete your act: Could you please shit into the next best Fallout thread and complain about...
... the merciless time limit which destroys of course the whole game for you?.

I like Fallout 1's time limit. You should probably enter any competent game developer forum and shit into their attempts to introduce hotkeys on their game over "muh immersive no-hotkey game", because that's pretty much the line of thought going on in this thread.

lol, people complaining about Arcanum's lack of balance (while breaking the game themselves) and calling me a casual.

Spoiler

I think Fallout 1's main quest, up to returning the water chip, is perfect. Getting rid of the Super Mutants and so on... that's a different story, plotwise. What was a "I can show you the world" story up to that point turned to classic "destroy the evil guys' base and their evil master".

 

[Ausdoerrt]

Spoiler

Arcanum a shit. SHIT.

 

[Sigourn]

Spoiler

You bet I'm butthurt about that shit game, it never got any good and I played it for over 20 hours.

 

[Kahr]

You should probably enter any competent game developer forum and shit into their attempts to introduce hotkeys on their game over "muh immersive no-hotkey game", because that's pretty much the line of thought going on in this thread.

Everyone, except some really serious oldfags, would agree if the UI would prevent you from enjoying the game. But all i see is you complaining (again) about some petty disturbances of your convenience, like pressing two keys at the same time (almost impossible) or navigating in Tarant (maybe 20 important locations), while real problems are ignored:
- the crappy dungon designs which just drags on for centuries
- the boring combat (Real time or turn based, you decide)
- the fatigue system (mana and endurance in one, are they insane?)
- the real non existant balance; swords and sorcery are op but dare to play a gunslinger or tech build --> it's shit (you don't get good gun's till 2/3 into the game)

If the whole game would be like Tarant it would be brilliant, but the whole time there's this boring dungeons.
It constantly shifts between excellent and boring shit.

 

[Sjukob]

- the fatigue system (mana and endurance in one, are they insane?)

It's actually fucking excellent . I wish more developers would do that .

 

[kwanzabot]

To complete your act: Could you please shit into the next best Fallout thread and complain about...
... the merciless time limit which destroys of course the whole game for you?.

I like Fallout 1's time limit. You should probably enter any competent game developer forum and shit into their attempts to introduce hotkeys on their game over "muh immersive no-hotkey game", because that's pretty much the line of thought going on in this thread.

lol, people complaining about Arcanum's lack of balance (while breaking the game themselves) and calling me a casual.

Spoiler

I think Fallout 1's main quest, up to returning the water chip, is perfect. Getting rid of the Super Mutants and so on... that's a different story, plotwise. What was a "I can show you the world" story up to that point turned to classic "destroy the evil guys' base and their evil master".

no ones calling you a casual they're calling you a retard


because you are a retard

 

[kwanzabot]

You should probably enter any competent game developer forum and shit into their attempts to introduce hotkeys on their game over "muh immersive no-hotkey game", because that's pretty much the line of thought going on in this thread.

- the crappy dungon designs which just drags on for centuries

you mean the BMC which takes an hour to run through? are you fucking retarded lol


or you mean the vendi ruins at the end, which take like 30 mins


give yourself a lobotomy please

 

[Crichton]

All this nonsense about being unable to find UI buttons or locations in Tarant simply stems from ignorance. I've played through Arcanum 10+ times and I assure after two or three, you newfags won't have any more trouble finding anything.

 

[Ausdoerrt]

you mean the BMC which takes an hour to run through? are you fucking retarded lol


or you mean the vendi ruins at the end, which take like 30 mins


give yourself a lobotomy please

I think the perceived length is a function of their crappiness. Let's face it - combat and dungeon design isn't one of the game's strong suits.

 

[Kahr]

It's actually fucking excellent . I wish more developers would do that .

Yeah, it's pretty fun having -40% fatigue after a fight and have to wait a minute till you can stand up again.
Could Virgil heal you're fatigue? Doesn't matter i was as tech as it gets.
Edit: Don't come with that tech healing bitch, she's 10 times worse than Virgil.

you mean the BMC which takes an hour to run through? are you fucking retarded lol


or you mean the vendi ruins at the end, which take like 30 mins


give yourself a lobotomy please

I mean like ALL dungeons, durr. A little question for you: Did you ever play the game as gunslinger, without swords, on hard of course?
It really can't get any more retarded. A ton of bullets to kill an ore golem. You kill a few of them (kiting through the whole level of course) till you're out of ammo.
Then you go back to town, buy a lot of ammo and repeat. And the dungeon drags on and on...
On the other hand playing as mage is like a walking simulator. Summon Ogres. Done.
If the game hadn't such a brilliant designed world/setting with it's parody of the reality, great quests and an entertaining skill system it wouldn't be worth the pain.

 

[kwanzabot]

you mean the BMC which takes an hour to run through? are you fucking retarded lol


or you mean the vendi ruins at the end, which take like 30 mins


give yourself a lobotomy please

I think the perceived length is a function of their crappiness. Let's face it - combat and dungeon design isn't one of the game's strong suits.

obviously the combat isnt great and the dungeons aren't great i just dont understand how people whine so much about something that takes such a little amount of time

if they were back to back to back it would be a bigger deal but really there's so much time in between each dungeon in arcanum, half of which can be bypassed with speech or w.e


irenicus's dungeon at the start of bg2 is longer then anything in arcanum lol

 

[kwanzabot]

It's actually fucking excellent . I wish more developers would do that .

Yeah, it's pretty fun having -40% fatigue after a fight and have to wait a minute till you can stand up again.
Could Virgil heal you're fatigue? Doesn't matter i was as tech as it gets.
Edit: Don't come with that tech healing bitch, she's 10 times worse than Virgil.

you mean the BMC which takes an hour to run through? are you fucking retarded lol


or you mean the vendi ruins at the end, which take like 30 mins


give yourself a lobotomy please

I mean like ALL dungeons, durr. A little question for you: Did you ever play the game as gunslinger, without swords, on hard of course?
It really can't get any more retarded. A ton of bullets to kill an ore golem. You kill a few of them (kiting through the whole level of course) till you're out of ammo.
Then you go back to town, buy a lot of ammo and repeat. And the dungeon drags on and on...
On the other hand playing as mage is like a walking simulator. Summon Ogres. Done.
If the game hadn't so a brilliant designed world/setting with it's parody of the reality, great quests and a entertaining skill system it wouldn't be worth the pain.

sounds like you're bad at the game and just suck lol

 

[Kahr]

sounds like you're bad at the game and just suck lol

Do it! Come on, make a LP of it!
Happens to me only in Arcanum... strange. Almost like the game doesn't want me to play as a gunslinger.
Also i'm pretty good at it, i can summon ogres, too.

 

[Zewp]

Spoiler

You bet I'm butthurt about that shit game, it never got any good and I played it for over 20 hours.

If you smell shit everywhere you go, check under your boot. Considering you panned Gothic 1 for some totally arb reason as well it's safe to say the games are not the problem.

 

[kwanzabot]

sounds like you're bad at the game and just suck lol

Do it! Come on, make a LP of it!
Happens to me only in Arcanum... strange. Almost like the game doesn't want me to play as a gunslinger.
Also i'm pretty good at it, i can summon ogres, too.

i have played as a gunslinger but when i do i compensate for it being shit and get ogres as henchmen to kill the golems



why the fuck would you solo kill ore golems and do runs back and worth to town buying bullets. thats the most stupid thing ive ever heard and if you actually played like that you're even more stupid then i thought you were

 

[Sigourn]

Everyone, except some really serious oldfags, would agree if the UI would prevent you from enjoying the game. But all i see is you complaining (again) about some petty disturbances of your convenience, like pressing two keys at the same time (almost impossible) or navigating in Tarant (maybe 20 important locations), while real problems are ignored:
- the crappy dungon designs which just drags on for centuries
- the boring combat (Real time or turn based, you decide)
- the fatigue system (mana and endurance in one, are they insane?)
- the real non existant balance; swords and sorcery are op but dare to play a gunslinger or tech build --> it's shit (you don't get good gun's till 2/3 into the game)

If the whole game would be like Tarant it would be brilliant, but the whole time there's this boring dungeons.
It constantly shifts between excellent and boring shit.

I'm not gonna argue about that, I didn't like the dungeons at all. They always felt like mazes instead of actual places that could exist in real life. Incidentally, that's the same problem Skyrim had, except instead of a maze they consisted of this huge ass corridors that would never actually exist, compared to Morrowind's short and to the point ancestral tombs.

The dungeons only get worse when you fight every two fucking seconds, all of that amplified by the awful fatigue system that FOR SOME FUCKING REASON didn't allow me to rest inside the dungeon... but walk outside and it's fine! Felt stupid, annoying, and a lot of times I ended up backtracking to the entrance so I could wait and restore my fatigue.

For the matter, I didn't make this thread because I thought it was something pointless. I just happened to point out, in my status, the little things that really bothered me about this game.

If you smell shit everywhere you go, check under your boot. Considering you panned Gothic 1 for some totally arb reason as well it's safe to say the games are not the problem.

Hard for me to pan a game I could barely play for a few minutes.

 

[Excidium II]

sounds like you're bad at the game and just suck lol

Do it! Come on, make a LP of it!
Happens to me only in Arcanum... strange. Almost like the game doesn't want me to play as a gunslinger.
Also i'm pretty good at it, i can summon ogres, too.

i have played as a gunslinger but when i do i compensate for it being shit and get ogres as henchmen to kill the golems



why the fuck would you solo kill ore golems and do runs back and worth to town buying bullets. thats the most stupid thing ive ever heard and if you actually played like that you're even more stupid then i thought you were

Reminds me of MCA playing Arcanum.

 

[Kahr]

why the fuck would you solo kill ore golems and do runs back and worth to town buying bullets. thats the most stupid thing ive ever heard and if you actually played like that you're even more stupid then i thought you were

To actually play a GUNSLINGER, idiot. You don't bring Ogres to a gunfight.

i have played as a gunslinger but when i do i compensate for it being shit and get ogres as henchmen to kill the golems

Edit: Nice troll! What about failure rate to cast/miss chance with the guns?

 

[Sigourn]

haha you suck at arcanum so you hate it


i beat arcanum when i was 12 years old

haha you're TRASH

I'm glad you like it, Jeff!

 

[kwanzabot]

why the fuck would you solo kill ore golems and do runs back and worth to town buying bullets. thats the most stupid thing ive ever heard and if you actually played like that you're even more stupid then i thought you were

To actually play a GUNSLINGER, idiot. You don't bring Ogres to a gunfight.

i have played as a gunslinger but when i do i compensate for it being shit and get ogres as henchmen to kill the golems

Edit: Nice troll! What about failure rate to cast/miss chance with the guns?

lmao you're just mad you suck at arcanum, nice not knowing how to level up charisma to recruit minions for you


why the fuck would i or anyone solo kill ore golems with a rifle when you can get ogres to do it for you


are you stupid or bad?

 

[Fowyr]

The dungeons only get worse when you fight every two fucking seconds, all of that amplified by the awful fatigue system that FOR SOME FUCKING REASON didn't allow me to rest inside the dungeon... but walk outside and it's fine! Felt stupid, annoying, and a lot of times I ended up backtracking to the entrance so I could wait and restore my fatigue.

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Words really fail me.

 

[Sigourn]

why the fuck would i or anyone solo kill ore golems with a rifle when you can get ogres to do it for you


are you stupid or bad?

Here.

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Words really fail me.

I'm glad you enjoy nonsensical systems like that one... unless you can really explain why does that make any sense.

 

[Kahr]

lmao you're just mad you suck at arcanum, nice not knowing how to level up charisma to recruit minions for you


why the fuck would i or anyone solo kill ore golems with a rifle when you can get ogres to do it for you


are you stupid or bad?

What kind of wimp are you? If i want a charisma run, i do a charisma run. But if I want to be a GUNSLINGER, i want to kill them MYSELF.
The problem is that the game doesn't let me do that.