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Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting - coming February 18th

Artyoan

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"We took scope creep and did the exact opposite."
 

Kem0sabe

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The community continues to want New Vegas 2 from Obsidian, instead of this. Every thread on reddit has comments "why are we getting this instead of a new Fallout game?". It's extremely tone deaf from Obsidian to continue with the Outer Worlds formula, a small budget rpg that you finish in 20 hours and never touch again. Insisting in every interview that we should expect fantasy outer worlds when talking about scope, is not helping, in fact it's burying the game further.

This Patel woman is not very bright.
 

Lacrymas

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Pathfinder: Wrath
It would've been better had they made this an immersive sim. Hell, I'd have even considered playing it if they had gone that route. This game will be DOA, imo.
 

Elttharion

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Its a joke because F NV is insanely popular with the trannies plus

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Child of Malkav

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Ok, so FONV is a tranny game because someone said so. Cool. Good talk.
Edit 1: BTW that's a tranny channel so anything coming from there is invalid by default.
 

Roguey

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The community continues to want New Vegas 2 from Obsidian, instead of this. Every thread on reddit has comments "why are we getting this instead of a new Fallout game?". It's extremely tone deaf from Obsidian to continue with the Outer Worlds formula, a small budget rpg that you finish in 20 hours and never touch again. Insisting in every interview that we should expect fantasy outer worlds when talking about scope, is not helping, in fact it's burying the game further.

This Patel woman is not very bright.

They can't make New Vegas 2 because that's entirely up to Bethesda.

It would've been better had they made this an immersive sim. Hell, I'd have even considered playing it if they had gone that route. This game will be DOA, imo.

Obsidian has never been influenced by the Origin/Looking Glass/Ion Storm Austin/Arkane way of doing things. Would be a bit daft to start now.
 

Infinitron

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Codex Year of the Donut Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Some communities come around to thinking that "good RPGs are for trannies/queer people" in the same way that many on the RPG Codex come around to thinking that "good RPGs are for reactionary grognards". There's a kind of gravitational pull in that direction that makes sense within the context of those communities.
 

Child of Malkav

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They can't make New Vegas 2 because that's entirely up to Bethesda.
They can't make NV2 because they are no longer able to. The Bethesda part is secondary.
They can't get past the first obstacle. All talent is gone. With TOW and Avowed they can't get off the ground, they don't inspire confidence, they will not touch IPs like Fallout again. They're done. They're the same as Arkane: on life support, with no good devs/designers/writers anymore and chasing trends in hopes of a hit. Little do they know that Microsoft is going to deliver that hit and it's not at all what they expect.
 

Roguey

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They can't make NV2 because they are no longer able to. The Bethesda part is secondary.
They can't get past the first obstacle. All talent is gone. With TOW and Avowed they can't get off the ground, they don't inspire confidence, they will not touch IPs like Fallout again. They're done. They're the same as Arkane: on life support, with no good devs/designers/writers anymore and chasing trends in hopes of a hit. Little do they know that Microsoft is going to deliver that hit and it's not at all what they expect.
Whatever issues you may have with it, TOW sold 5 million and is getting a bigger (and perhaps better) sequel.
 

ropetight

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The community continues to want New Vegas 2 from Obsidian, instead of this. Every thread on reddit has comments "why are we getting this instead of a new Fallout game?". It's extremely tone deaf from Obsidian to continue with the Outer Worlds formula, a small budget rpg that you finish in 20 hours and never touch again. Insisting in every interview that we should expect fantasy outer worlds when talking about scope, is not helping, in fact it's burying the game further.

This Patel woman is not very bright.
She is great example of failing upwards, where it is more important you are filling DEI crossword right than your work and results.
One of the main reasons we have bullshit AAA and AA releases.

This industry was so much better with autistic guys self-harming themselves with overtime and crunch.
 

ropetight

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Some communities come around to thinking that "good RPGs are for trannies/queer people" in the same way that many on the RPG Codex come around to thinking that "good RPGs are for reactionary grognards". There's a kind of gravitational pull in that direction that makes sense within the context of those communities.
You went full gamergate there from shill-soldier of the regime.
May God have mercy on your soul.
 

Child of Malkav

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Obsidian aren't the same as Arkane because they haven't made a bunch of big budget flops in a row
Heh, they ain't far behind. Oh yeah, I forgot about Grounded, it seems that had a good reception and so far keeps them alive. IDK how well POEs and Tyranny sold but even if they did good-ish, Obsidian still walks the line.
TOW sold 5 million and is getting a bigger (and perhaps better) sequel.
TOW sold because it was supposed to be FONV in space. Especially since everyone was pissed with the whole FO76 disaster. So they looked towards Obsidian. Plus now with Shitfield being the trash that it is, even more attention goes to TOW. So those numbers add up, over time.
Now can they replicate this success with Avowed? No. It will be compared with TES and be found wanting. Like I said in one of my previous posts, the more they go into details about Avowed the less I like it. And this opinion is shared by others. It's TOW but magic.
Hopefully it turns out good for them, but my honest opinion is that they're fucked.
 

Lacrymas

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Pathfinder: Wrath
Keep in mind BG3 changed the mainstream gaming landscape and devs will feel the pressure eventually if they aren't already. I.e. Avowed has no chance.
 

Tyranicon

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We're in an age where dudes in basements can create better first person games than "we're not AAA" 100-men studios funded by microsoft.

And some Twitterati are crying over the games industry "dying" or some shit.

Good. Kill it faster.
 

Drakortha

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Keep in mind BG3 changed the mainstream gaming landscape and devs will feel the pressure eventually if they aren't already. I.e. Avowed has no chance.
I'm sure there's still a market for Avowed. Larian make meticulous trash, but it's trash all the same. Whereas Obsidian make unfiltered and unmitigated slop. Both have their place in the minds of the consumer.

It's like comparing Coca Cola with Pepsi, With Dr Pepper and Mountain Dew. The debate is pointless because it's all shit.
 

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