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Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting - coming February 18th

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It's also a not so subtle attempt to try and avoid adding conventionally attractive fair skinned men and women front and centre. It's a surefire sign of a compromised game. If you have to squint to spot a conventionally attractive fair skinned man and a conventionally attractive fair skinned woman then it's a safe bet that the game will be utter slop and is best avoided.

These nonhuman races serve as a cunning way to include more real-life race representation without actually doing so and going overboard in the eyes of critical media, and so you end up with aliens/elves/dwarves etc endowed with negroid and asian features.

Compound that with the left's cringeworthy obsession with "ugliness is a revolutionary statement and just plain PUNKROCK" and you have these modern rainbow slop games.
 

aweigh

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It's also a not so subtle attempt to try and avoid adding conventionally attractive fair skinned men and women front and centre. It's a surefire sign of a compromised game. If you have to squint to spot a conventionally attractive fair skinned man and a conventionally attractive fair skinned woman then it's a safe bet that the game will be utter slop and is best avoided.

These nonhuman races serve as a cunning way to include more real-life race representation without actually doing so and going overboard in the eyes of critical media, and so you end up with aliens/elves/dwarves etc endowed with negroid and asian features.

Compound that with the left's cringeworthy obsession with "ugliness is a revolutionary statement and just plain PUNKROCK" and you have these modern rainbow slop games.


Ironically enough one of the things that happened with Veilguard's attempt at making Quinari transexual was that they made them seem more human-like than in previous games. If you look closely the elves also received a similar treatment, they look like humans with a wig and pointy ears on.

Sometimes things like this happen for technically reasons, for example I'm fairly sure one of the reasons khajits started walking more normally after Morrowind was to make it easier to use animation systems, but of course you never truly know. That makes sense to me, however. In Veilguard's case their desire to make each non-human race represent some specific ideological talking point only made them seem less interesting and less unique.

EDIT: Also, leftist Western devs are obsessed with adding hair and mustaches to female characters, one of the reasons the Veilguard troon Quinari is so disgusting to look at is because it has a mustache.
 

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Cryomancer

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When I first saw the initial teaser, I thought that the game could be good. Was not expecting a morrowind tier game. Imagined how cool it would be to use stuff like mind blades, puppet master, soul ignition, ringleader, disintegration, and time parasite in FPP.


When the signals of woke come, I lost interest, and despite it, when I learned that there would be no cipher abilities, I still got disappointed.



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Game industry writers in yet more liberal imperviousness to irony made manifest. So progressive and so enlightened that the queer characters are now baskets of crude stereotypes. Because gay = into hookups at the sauna downtown.

From Arcade Gannon to stuff like this in Obsidian's case.
 

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When I first saw the initial teaser, I thought that the game could be good. Was not expecting a morrowind tier game. Imagined how cool it would be to use stuff like mind blades, puppet master, soul ignition, ringleader, disintegration, and time parasite in FPP.


When the signals of woke come, I lost interest, and despite it, when I learned that there would be no cipher abilities, I still got disappointed.



:despair:
Why did they cut Cipher I wonder, same reason Bioware got rid of Blood Magic in Dragon age or sheer DEI laziness/incompetence?
It's a coin flip, really :smug:
 

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When I first saw the initial teaser, I thought that the game could be good. Was not expecting a morrowind tier game. Imagined how cool it would be to use stuff like mind blades, puppet master, soul ignition, ringleader, disintegration, and time parasite in FPP.


When the signals of woke come, I lost interest, and despite it, when I learned that there would be no cipher abilities, I still got disappointed.



:despair:
Why did they cut Cipher I wonder, same reason Bioware got rid of Blood Magic in Dragon age or sheer DEI laziness/incompetence?
It's a coin flip, really :smug:

My guess. They really hate anything that is not flashy but ineffective magic.
 

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This shit will flop hard with the usual suspects crying about muh chuds.
Tyranicon this is your chance!
Corporate drones like Phil Spencer will get his bonus and a golden parachute anyways. Muh MBA grads failing upwards.
 

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They were probably hoping this game would do Outer Worlds numbers, but 1) the reality has set in that Outer Worlds was a mediocre game, and 2) Outer Worlds didn't have waves of negative press in the leadup to its release. This game is cooked.
 

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They were probably hoping this game would do Outer Worlds numbers, but 1) the reality has set in that Outer Worlds was a mediocre game, and 2) Outer Worlds didn't have waves of negative press in the leadup to its release. This game is cooked.
The main problem with this game sales is they didn't get pre xmass sale period. Who is buying games at 18th February? And then they would have problem when people start comparing their game with Elden Ring.
 

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Avowed is sheltered from sales expectations by having been bought and packaged as Game Pass slop. BTW, no sales numbers will ever be released for any Game Pass game, only player counts.

And it will probably have a sufficient player count if only because of the mild curiosity that most Game Pass subscribers will feel at seeing Avowed plastered all over the front page of the app when it loads up, however this won't translate into long-term players, most people will install it out of curiosity and then drop it after 30 minutes or so.
 

huskarls

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When I first saw the initial teaser, I thought that the game could be good. Was not expecting a morrowind tier game. Imagined how cool it would be to use stuff like mind blades, puppet master, soul ignition, ringleader, disintegration, and time parasite in FPP.


When the signals of woke come, I lost interest, and despite it, when I learned that there would be no cipher abilities, I still got disappointed.
you are a new head with the same testosterone levels as the wokies you screech about, whereas i always hated nuobsidian
 

ERYFKRAD

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When I first saw the initial teaser, I thought that the game could be good. Was not expecting a morrowind tier game. Imagined how cool it would be to use stuff like mind blades, puppet master, soul ignition, ringleader, disintegration, and time parasite in FPP.


When the signals of woke come, I lost interest, and despite it, when I learned that there would be no cipher abilities, I still got disappointed.
you are a new head with the same testosterone levels as the wokies you screech about, whereas i always hated nuobsidian
Negro please, guy's hated all video games ever since enslaving nations with necromancy was ruled out as a gameplay style.
 

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When I first saw the initial teaser, I thought that the game could be good. Was not expecting a morrowind tier game. Imagined how cool it would be to use stuff like mind blades, puppet master, soul ignition, ringleader, disintegration, and time parasite in FPP.


When the signals of woke come, I lost interest, and despite it, when I learned that there would be no cipher abilities, I still got disappointed.
you are a new head with the same testosterone levels as the wokies you screech about, whereas i always hated nuobsidian
Negro please, guy's hated all video games ever since enslaving nations with necromancy was ruled out as a gameplay style.
This is why Dominions is such a great game
 
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A lot of the animations are looking pretty rough in the preview material, not encouraging. Who has the bears doing jazz hands on a critical attack? Looks like shit.
 

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Seriously. Now I realized that Rangers have no animal companion. Did they take EVERYTHING interesting from Pillows away? No Cipher psionics, no Druid shapeshift, no Chanter, no wounds-based monk, no raging Barbarian, just 3 "trees" out of the 11 classes as trees, and the trees are vastly "capped.".

In Avoided, Rangers have 18 active and passive in total https://avowed.wiki.fextralife.com/Ranger+Ability+Tree
In PoE 2, Rangers only in the 1st/2nd out of 9 "rows" have 19 active + passive abilities. https://pillarsofeternity2.wiki.fextralife.com/Ranger

Such a decline in the number of stuff is greater than any Bethesda game. From Morrowind to Oblivion or Oblivion to Skyrim, was not that bad. And before someone says "muh quality over quantity," everything interesting from Rangers or Wizards is also out of the game. It is the same decline of Dragon Age Origins to Failguard but in a single game.
 

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Seriously. Now I realized that Rangers have no animal companion. Did they take EVERYTHING interesting from Pillows away? No Cipher psionics, no Druid shapeshift, no Chanter, no wounds-based monk, no raging Barbarian, just 3 "trees" out of the 11 classes as trees, and the trees are vastly "capped.".

In Avoided, Rangers have 18 active and passive in total https://avowed.wiki.fextralife.com/Ranger+Ability+Tree
In PoE 2, Rangers only in the 1st/2nd out of 9 "rows" have 19 active + passive abilities. https://pillarsofeternity2.wiki.fextralife.com/Ranger

Such a decline in the number of stuff is greater than any Bethesda game. From Morrowind to Oblivion or Oblivion to Skyrim, was not that bad. And before someone says "muh quality over quantity," everything interesting from Rangers or Wizards is also out of the game. It is the same decline of Dragon Age Origins to Failguard but in a single game.
The crucial difference: This game isn't titled "Pillars of Eternity". It is marketed as a first person action spinoff, not a sequel.
 

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The crucial difference: This game isn't titled "Pillars of Eternity". It is marketed as a first person action spinoff, not a sequel.
I can get removing SOME stuff in a spin-off. But removing literally every single interesting thing...

That said, Ultima Underworld is a "first-person action spinoff" and has MORE spells than Ultima 7, not less. You can fly in Ultima Underworld, something not possible in U7. And it is not only in class that this game has less stuff. I didn't see arbalests and crossbows in Avoided either.
 

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