Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting

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There is a screenshot from this one in circulation that professes Veilguard's success.

 

[Skinwalker]

I CANT KEEP UP WITH THE LIST ANYMORE THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH SHIT!! I HAD 10 ALERTS FROM THIS THREAD!

 

[Roguey]

Right they are out here making truly authentic creative experiences, don't mind all the government money floating around that demands all creative media adhere to a particular worldview, or that every game studio at once changed in the exact same way at the exact same times with the exact same messages, it's all organic!

The game industry is full of liberals, always has been. This is what it means to be a liberal now.

Other libs got mad at Avellone because he said games shouldn't outright lecture you about what values you should have, but he's completely onboard with more gays and blacks and ugly people.

 

[Raghar]

Well, positive part is AI writing algorithms would become better, and Game industry can get rid of well paid liberal writers, and replace them with normal people who would write decent item description text, have consistency love games and have passion for their work, and when they would need something complex, they would have AI to write decent dialogues.

And everyone would be happy. We would have a nice text. People with brain would write kind story. And weird black/refugee/homosexual lovers would stay out of industry.

 

[luj1]

It needs to be known that Avellone doesn't like Sawyer, which automatically launched Rogay on a not-so-subtle eternal crusade of smearing against the man

 

[luj1]

Also:

 

[Skinwalker]

These memes look so dated. You are old, codexers. OLD!

 

[Padzi]

I haven't been following Avowed, but YouTube has started bombarding me with reviews and clips lately.And, of course, one of the first things it showed me was that Kai's loyalty mission is

Spoiler

a coming out of the closet quest, because he's gay.

What the hell.

 

[Tenebris]

Wasn't it confirmed that both he and the dwarf were gay? and IIRC the Vailian.

 

[SlightlyRadioactive]

Well, positive part is AI writing algorithms would become better, and Game industry can get rid of well paid liberal writers, and replace them with normal people who would write decent item description text, have consistency love games and have passion for their work, and when they would need something complex, they would have AI to write decent dialogues.

And everyone would be happy. We would have a nice text. People with brain would write kind story. And weird black/refugee/homosexual lovers would stay out of industry.

This doesn't make any sense, why would companies hire new people to replace the previous ones if AI becomes capable of doing most of their jobs alone?

Also, from what I understand about AI, it just creates responses rooted in already existing texts. So it wouldn't start writing "based" dialogues without a sizable amount of samples.

What would probably happen is a considerable depreciation of writers salaries which would result in people that have actually any kind of talent to begin with to leave the industry because their jobs will become so poorly paid, and, in consequence of that leave only the most desperate lowest common denominator to be in charge of writing, leading to an unending regurgitation of already existing fiction tropes that have already worn out the audience.

 

[thesecret1]

What would probably happen is a considerable depreciation of writers salaries which would result in people that have actually any kind of talent to begin with to leave the industry because their jobs will become so poorly paid, and, in consequence of that leave only the most desperate lowest common denominator to be in charge of writing, leading to an unending regurgitation of already existing fiction tropes that have already worn out the audience.

So, same as now?

 

[SlightlyRadioactive]

What would probably happen is a considerable depreciation of writers salaries which would result in people that have actually any kind of talent to begin with to leave the industry because their jobs will become so poorly paid, and, in consequence of that leave only the most desperate lowest common denominator to be in charge of writing, leading to an unending regurgitation of already existing fiction tropes that have already worn out the audience.

So, same as now?

In larger scale and intensity, yes. People on the internet don't seem to understand that most of the decline of quality in media is the result of companies and executives making decisions that they find to be more profitable.

Things aren't "woke" because there are too many liberals in the industry (as far as I know there always was a ton of liberals in it), things are this way because corpos allow it, seeing this either as more profitable or less expensive.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Can you even dismiss companions in this game?

 

[ArchAngel]

1. Infinitroon
2. Rougay
3. Yosharian
4. frajaq
5. Perkel
6. Sherry
7. Ibn Sina
8. Lord_Potato
9. aweigh
10. Crispy a.k.a. Liberal
11. ArchAngel

Note numbers 4, 9 and 11.

Those people are playing Avowed, after having answered that they will not play KCD2, because, I quote: "Vavra is a nigger loving jew traitor that bait&switched DEI garbage into sequel"

What kind of tag would be appropriate here, help me out

I am not playing Awoved but I will certainly try it eventually. It is the most brave game in 2025, when world is turning to nacizam, this is only game that is going to let twinks feel at home. You are just jealous because you are a coward and you hate twinks.

 

[Thalstarion]

It's all part of the obsession with 'accessibility'. Every aspect of exploration, nuance and depth is eroded away. Then there's the performative tokenism, so there's no sense of immersion in regards to the placement of NPC's either. Many story elements, particularly anything dark, are also heavily sanitised.

A genuine fan of exploration is liable to comb their surroundings and not need things to be highlighted in advance.

As for the game industry being filled with progressives, that isn't untrue but it's not entirely correct either. It's been happening since before I was born but purity spirals targeted anyone even remotely conservative and conspired to push them out of many artistic pursuits. Then, once they were gone for the most part, the goalposts shifted and the more reasonable progressives became the new targets. If the trend continues we will see even the current batch of dysgenic nutters draw a line in the sand somewhere as an even more radicalised demographic rears its ugly head to declare that they're not doing enough 'progress'.

 

[thesecret1]

What would probably happen is a considerable depreciation of writers salaries which would result in people that have actually any kind of talent to begin with to leave the industry because their jobs will become so poorly paid, and, in consequence of that leave only the most desperate lowest common denominator to be in charge of writing, leading to an unending regurgitation of already existing fiction tropes that have already worn out the audience.

So, same as now?

In larger scale and intensity, yes. People on the internet don't seem to understand that most of the decline of quality in media is the result of companies and executives making decisions that they find to be more profitable.

Things aren't "woke" because there are too many liberals in the industry (as far as I know there always was a ton of liberals in it), things are this way because corpos allow it, seeing this either as more profitable or less expensive.

You have a very inflated opinion of corpos, if you see them as these savvy individuals focusing on profit. In reality most of them have no idea how the fuck any of this works, they just sit through a presentation in a meeting room somewhere where some dude makes his pitch, and then give him a bag of money and hope he manages it.

The reason why writing nowadays isn't just woke but also terribly shit on a technical level is because there's a major competency crisis in the West, and especially in the arts.

 

[Tenebris]

Can you even dismiss companions in this game?

In an interview Carrie said you cannot go without companions as they are fully intertwined in the story.

 

[Camel]

In larger scale and intensity, yes. People on the internet don't seem to understand that most of the decline of quality in media is the result of companies and executives making decisions that they find to be more profitable.

Things aren't "woke" because there are too many liberals in the industry (as far as I know there always was a ton of liberals in it), things are this way because corpos allow it, seeing this either as more profitable or less expensive.

Things are woke because the left actively pushes it with pronouns, quotas and DEI. They met some pushback only recently.

 

[Thalstarion]

A lot of it comes down to boring board meetings. Most of the people at the top of these companies do not actually play video games and if they did at some point in their lives, they no longer have the time to do so.

So they turn to 'advisors' and 'marketing leads' who feed them equally out of touch information. Some are actively compromised, of course, others are just completely out of touch.

What we need is more competent conservatives to get directly involved in these companies and other creative industries and actively push for immersive, nuanced choices in RPG's over performative pandering.

That's a demographic issue in itself - a lot of conservatives are old and out of touch and it is now very difficult for someone who is young and conservative to get high up in a particular gaming company.

Which in turn makes the conservative's obsession with 'merit' silly in the context of needing to compete with those who will always promote their own over everybody else. Find the best guy for the job, sure, though if there's two best guys for the job and one of them holds progressive views and the other doesn't? Pick the latter.

 

[Roguey]

Can you even dismiss companions in this game?

In an interview Carrie said you cannot go without companions as they are fully intertwined in the story.

They can't leave but as I understand it you can go solo most of the time except when a quest requires their presence.

 

[SlightlyRadioactive]

What would probably happen is a considerable depreciation of writers salaries which would result in people that have actually any kind of talent to begin with to leave the industry because their jobs will become so poorly paid, and, in consequence of that leave only the most desperate lowest common denominator to be in charge of writing, leading to an unending regurgitation of already existing fiction tropes that have already worn out the audience.

So, same as now?

In larger scale and intensity, yes. People on the internet don't seem to understand that most of the decline of quality in media is the result of companies and executives making decisions that they find to be more profitable.

Things aren't "woke" because there are too many liberals in the industry (as far as I know there always was a ton of liberals in it), things are this way because corpos allow it, seeing this either as more profitable or less expensive.

You have a very inflated opinion of corpos, if you see them as these savvy individuals focusing on profit. In reality most of them have no idea how the fuck any of this works, they just sit through a presentation in a meeting room somewhere where some dude makes his pitch, and then give him a bag of money and hope he manages it.

The reason why writing nowadays isn't just woke but also terribly shit on a technical level is because there's a major competency crisis in the West, and especially in the arts.

If you are right, then it would be even worse.
Deciding not to lead people does not exempt leaders from any guilt, even more so if it is them that are financing this shit.

 

[Raghar]

Well, positive part is AI writing algorithms would become better, and Game industry can get rid of well paid liberal writers, and replace them with normal people who would write decent item description text, have consistency love games and have passion for their work, and when they would need something complex, they would have AI to write decent dialogues.

And everyone would be happy. We would have a nice text. People with brain would write kind story. And weird black/refugee/homosexual lovers would stay out of industry.

This doesn't make any sense, why would companies hire new people to replace the previous ones if AI becomes capable of doing most of their jobs alone?

For the same reason as you saw old grannies sitting in chair at toilet, and collecting charge for use of public toilets. Someone needs to clean stuff up, and watch for problems.
Would previous writers accept they were degraded to that level, and theirs salaries are limited as a consequences of new tools? If yea they could keep theirs job for (well if theirs salary was already shit level, then for the same salary).

Also, from what I understand about AI, it just creates responses rooted in already existing texts.

Typical writer too. I'm bit exception, but you saw my grammar, and I have writer block for 80 percent of year.

So it wouldn't start writing "based" dialogues without a sizable amount of samples.

Herbert, Hemingway, Tolkien, Heinlein, the horrible racist fantasy author which name shouldn't be pronounced by zoomer or millennial... There are plenty of texts available for AI writers that want to use specific styles.

What would probably happen is a considerable depreciation of writers salaries which would result in people that have actually any kind of talent to begin with to leave

And to where would they go? One of reason why I became one of best SW engineer in the country is that number of writer jobs after Velvet revolution was so limited you could get it in two ways it was either nepotism, or luck. (Then it was about young fresh authors an example of success of modern multicultural society.)

Perhaps it's different in US, but writers jobs that pays salary that is sufficient to pay medical bills, food, and housing costs these jobs are not growing on trees.
So it's burger flipper in McDonald, cleaning lady jobs, or... And talented writers would think about murder because he/she is SERIOUSLY wasting writer's talent in jobs that pays for food.

Economy based on services can't keep state afloat, and writer jobs are part of service economy. So is programming, but they artificially increased number of software programming related jobs, and programming is also useful for other stuff than services.

the industry because their jobs will become so poorly paid, and, in consequence of that leave only the most desperate lowest common denominator to be in charge of writing, leading to an unending regurgitation of already existing fiction tropes that have already worn out the audience.

Welcome to last 30 years. Majority of decent books and movies were made when iron curtain separated east and west, and writers had passion and great writing impulse. Nowadays we see books about soft kind orks who are ostracized by horrible white society. In 80s we had RAMBO, or Predator.

 

[Cryomancer]

Remember when Oblivion tier was an insult? Now games are sub Oblivion tier. Thanks diversity hiring and ESG...

 

[Nelka]

On the spectrum range, how outside are you?

Hi.

Um, it was the further guard post east of Southern Embrace called Emerald Stair Gatehouse and Precarious Hold. Miriamele has just received access to Paradis, so I am looking forward to hopefully, having a full fledged city to explore with all the polish to make it look and feel like a city.

Thanks,
Sherry

Awokexisters:

1. Infinitroon
2. Rougay
3. Yosharian
4. frajaq
5. Perkel
6. Sherry


Everyone, add to this list!

Hi.

I am also playing Avowed with my alternative Sherry. Please add her too.

Thanks,
Sherry

Hey, but I'm currently busy doing this

Thanks,
Sherry
This post is pending Infinitron's approval

I was looking for this key way too long, took me like 5 minutes of just running around the stairs.

 

[markec]

The issue is ideological nepotism and not driven by profits, for years now all big companies have virtue signaled and injected their products with their ideology while fully knowing it would hurt their final profits. The industry has been filled by leftists who are in control of hiring process where they prioritize those who share their ideology. Even if they had big budget for hiring writers, same people would be hired. And even if some company goes bankrupt and everyone loses their jobs they will simply find new employment in another company. Thats why the only solution is a complete industry crash where all big companies crash and burn while at the same time ESG funds dry out.