Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting

[Rieser]

Why do you people even know anything about a fucking Twitch streamer.

 

[ArchAngel]

Dark Souls is like the only incline gaming has had since like the fucking 2000, you retconning mongoloids.

Also, Asmongold is in no way, shape or form into Souls he was just bullied into it by his fans. His first foray into the genre was an unmitigated disaster he only learned to cope to save face.

Rolling simulators were a huge decline for world of cRPGs. Now all games that could become good and fun party based RPGs were turned into rolling simulators.

Complete detachment from reality. Name one good RPG we could have had if it wasn't Dark Souls. Oh right that would be nothing because RPGs have been decline for decades and the party based ones specifically have been infected by faggotry and shit writing longer than some people here have even been alive. In fact, you are looking at just such a game in this thread.

That is such a stupid question. You are beyond retarded. Do I have access to super advanced AI that could predict alternate worlds exactly?!
I just know that as soon as casuals played such rolling simulators companies no longer wanted to make cRPG that would sell less. Same like how MOBA ruined RTS.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

IGN, 2024:

Obsidian Explains Why Avowed Won't Let You Romance Your Companions​

The developers wanted to focus on "thoughtful relationships" with companions.​

By Rebekah Valentine

Updated: Jan 31, 2024 10:05 pm

Posted: Jan 31, 2024 9:55 pm


With games like Starfield and Baldur's Gate 3 last year having players wax poetic about which of their video game besties they most want to smooch, it can sometimes feel like romance systems are becoming a staple of AAA party-based RPGs. But that's not going to be the case with Avowed, which is opting to forego a dedicated romance system for a focus on "building thoughtful relationships" with companions instead.

This comes from an interview IGN did with Avowed game director Carrie Patel, where she confirmed Avowed would not feature romance options, and why:
"We are building thoughtful relationships with our companion characters," she said. "Ultimately, I personally am a fan of making that an option, but I feel like if you're going to do it, you really, really have to commit and make sure that you're giving all to fulfilling that in a way that feels both true to the character, but also creates an engaging player experience. So not something we're doing for Avowed, but I wouldn't say never."

Gamesradar+, 2025Does Avowed have romance, and if so then with whom?

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Although there isn't traditional romance in Avowed, there is at least one character you can bond with during your journey

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Avowed romance has long been a point of interest, as players tend to expect they can form relationships with their companions during RPG adventures. It seemed that Obsidian had curbed any notion of this when they previously stated you wouldn't be able to romance your companions, as they wanted to focus on getting the game's relationships right instead – and while they stayed true to their word that you won't be getting up close and personal with your party members while you journey across the Living Lands, we've found during our time with Avowed that there is one romance you can initiate which plays out during the epilogue. If you want to find out more about this option, then this is how to set up a romance in Avowed.

Does Avowed have romance with companions?​

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Avowed romance doesn't feature in the traditional sense, as although you can use dialogue interactions to flirt with various Avowed companions in your party, nothing more comes of it during the course of your adventure. However, it is possible to set up a romance with Kai at the end of your journey, and this is how you do it:

• Always speak to Kai when in an Avowed Party Camp and be nice to him
• Complete Kai's personal quest
• When you get the option, confess to Kai that you have feelings for him

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Note that your character's body type and identifier, which you chose during character creation along with your Avowed background and attributes, do not affect this Avowed romance opportunity with Kai. If you've followed all of the steps above, then Kai should tell you that he feels the same, and that if you still feel that way once you've finished your journey together then you'll both see what happens.

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You can then proceed to complete the story and, during the epilogue, an additional screen will appear confirming the romance that blossoms between Kai and the envoy. If you were looking for more then I'm afraid that's the extent of the romance in Avowed, but at least you got a happy ending together!

 

[Morgoth]

Avowed is officially an Immersive Sim.

 

[Yoomazir]

He's spot on in the fact that Avowed is a better experience IF you played, and enjoyed, the PoE games previously.

 

[Morgoth]

tl;dr

-Obsidian picks their next game based on what the teams are interested in, and lunch discussions, not franchise or market potential.
-Feargus is currently trying to get a personal passion project off the ground that's on the Microsoft franchise spreadsheet. It suggests Shadowrun.
-Carrie is a cutie. Fact.

 

[ArchAngel]

I need to finish Indiana Jones and the Great Circle and then I still want to finish my 2nd run of Rogue Trader and I still have not finished Stalker 2 and that RTwP Alien game is on game pass and I want to try that one. Then in 1 month new big update for POE2 is coming out so that is another 2-3 weeks of only playing that. And new Last Epoch league is coming after that. So I guess I might have time to try Avowed sometime in April or maybe May. Hopefully they make it better by then. If not, Tempest Rising is also coming out in April so I guess I will be playing that.

 

[Skinwalker]

Oh no, there's ROLLING in Dark Souls. It's a ROLLING simulator, coz it has ROLLING as one of its many mechanics!

R O L L I N G

 

[Sherry]

Hi.

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gosh there is some intern who must be terrified to go in the next day after I came across this during Miriamele's adventure last night which is a path choice perhaps during play testing that not a lot of play testers took? So many variables and choices you can make during your adventure that this cropped up in The Emerald Stair with the farmer I mentioned previously who had the food stolen and his wife was ill. Miriamele did not kill the faction back in Paradis that are responsible for stealing the farmer's food, and again she did not kill this time around either, but made a deal for some medicine so the wife can live right? and they get to keep the food. okay so this is what it shows for the medicine

Intern is sweating ahaha

GOSH you would think the farmer would have been happy that Miriamele returned with medicine to save the love of his life right? RIGHT? NO! wtf! Miriamele is YELLED at for only bringing back life saving medicine for his wife and belittled Miriamele because she also should have brought back the STOLEN FOOD too!

MEN!

He finally breaks when option 3 is used. Yelled at. YELLED AT for helping.

Thanks,
Sherry

 

[ArchAngel]

Oh no, there's ROLLING in Dark Souls. It's a ROLLING simulator, coz it has ROLLING as one of its many mechanics!

R O L L I N G

No, it is its main defensive mechanic. Just like how games like Skyrim are walking simulators because you spend 80% of the time walking around the map.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Dark Souls is like the only incline gaming has had since like the fucking 2000, you retconning mongoloids.

Also, Asmongold is in no way, shape or form into Souls he was just bullied into it by his fans. His first foray into the genre was an unmitigated disaster he only learned to cope to save face.

Rolling simulators were a huge decline for world of cRPGs. Now all games that could become good and fun party based RPGs were turned into rolling simulators.

Complete detachment from reality. Name one good RPG we could have had if it wasn't Dark Souls. Oh right that would be nothing because RPGs have been decline for decades and the party based ones specifically have been infected by faggotry and shit writing longer than some people here have even been alive. In fact, you are looking at just such a game in this thread.

That is such a stupid question. You are beyond retarded. Do I have access to super advanced AI that could predict alternate worlds exactly?!
I just know that as soon as casuals played such rolling simulators companies no longer wanted to make cRPG that would sell less. Same like how MOBA ruined RTS.

You literally claimed if it wasn't for Souls we would be having all those great RPGs how that not predicting the future, retard?

When Dark Souls was released Mass Effect was already four years old and the RPG genre was already in a deep state of decline and there's every indication the genre wasn't gonna get any better... because it hasn't, and not due to anything to do with Souls. Just look at Veilguard or Avoided here.

 

[ArchAngel]

Dark Souls is like the only incline gaming has had since like the fucking 2000, you retconning mongoloids.

Also, Asmongold is in no way, shape or form into Souls he was just bullied into it by his fans. His first foray into the genre was an unmitigated disaster he only learned to cope to save face.

Rolling simulators were a huge decline for world of cRPGs. Now all games that could become good and fun party based RPGs were turned into rolling simulators.

Complete detachment from reality. Name one good RPG we could have had if it wasn't Dark Souls. Oh right that would be nothing because RPGs have been decline for decades and the party based ones specifically have been infected by faggotry and shit writing longer than some people here have even been alive. In fact, you are looking at just such a game in this thread.

That is such a stupid question. You are beyond retarded. Do I have access to super advanced AI that could predict alternate worlds exactly?!
I just know that as soon as casuals played such rolling simulators companies no longer wanted to make cRPG that would sell less. Same like how MOBA ruined RTS.

You literally claimed if it wasn't for Souls we would be having all those great RPGs how that not predicting the future, retard?

When Dark Souls was released Mass Effect was already four years old and the RPG genre was already in a deep state of decline and there's every indication the genre wasn't gonna get any better... because it hasn't, and not due to anything to do with Souls. Just look at Veilguard or Avoided here.

Sure, cinematic RPGs were also another cause. But then Dark Soul type games took over. Even Mass Effect was/is better than all these soul likes (at least ME1 that was more tactical than 2 and 3 that were just shooters with abilities)

 

[normie]

Oh no, there's ROLLING in Dark Souls. It's a ROLLING simulator, coz it has ROLLING as one of its many mechanics!

R O L L I N G

No, it is its main defensive mechanic. Just like how games in Skyrim are walking simulators because you spend 80% of the time walking around the map.

the "rolling" criticism is so foreign to me and to my experience, I've always played so heavy that it's been almost purely a blocking/parrying/distance management game for me, and they play well

 

[Lyric Suite]

He's spot on in the fact that Avowed is a better experience IF you played, and enjoyed, the PoE games previously.

Seems to me playing this game is going to retroactively make you hate the setting even more than you already did.

 

[ArchAngel]

Oh no, there's ROLLING in Dark Souls. It's a ROLLING simulator, coz it has ROLLING as one of its many mechanics!

R O L L I N G

No, it is its main defensive mechanic. Just like how games in Skyrim are walking simulators because you spend 80% of the time walking around the map.

the "rolling" criticism is so foreign to me and to my experience, I've always played so heavy that it's been almost purely a blocking/parrying/distance management game for me, and they play well

Could be. I never played Souls likes (except when I tried one of the latest Jedi games and quit after I've seen that it is nothing like Jedi Academy) but whenever I watched anyone else play they just spend 50% of the time rolling around during combat. And I am still very pissed off how they ruined Witcher 2 combat by adding that Souls shit in it to the point I could not force myself to finish it (got bored half way through).
And it is not just rolling shit, it is whole camera over the shoulder that prevents you from seeing anything.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Even Mass Effect was/is better than all these soul likes

I never played Souls likes

another archangel classic

 

[Lyric Suite]

IGN, 2024:

Obsidian Explains Why Avowed Won't Let You Romance Your Companions​

The developers wanted to focus on "thoughtful relationships" with companions.​

It's funny because normally this would be incline. Romances are cringe and have destroyed all party based RPGs forever but nu-Obsidian took an otherwise good position and used it to shit the bed even further.

 

[ArchAngel]

Even Mass Effect was/is better than all these soul likes

I never played Souls likes

another archangel classic

Well I played Jedi game with that young actor (first one) and Witcher 2, both had rolling shit and terrible camera which is staple of Souls likes. And I've watched enough of people playing different Souls likes over the years.
As people keep saying here, you do not need to taste shit to know it is shit.

 

[Skinwalker]

Oh no, there's ROLLING in Dark Souls. It's a ROLLING simulator, coz it has ROLLING as one of its many mechanics!

R O L L I N G

No, it is its main defensive mechanic. Just like how games like Skyrim are walking simulators because you spend 80% of the time walking around the map.

Have been relying on my shield a lot on Elden Ring, rolling wasn't a primary defensive mechanic at all with my build. Same with using a pistol-focused build in Bloodborne (and you don't even roll when locked on to an enemy, but dash instead).

And there's tons of walking in every game. Skyrim is not a walking simulator, moron. Walking simulator = no gameplay besides walking, not "the game has walking in it!! you don't teleport from one POI to another, you have to W A L K!!"

 

[Quillon]

Probably already been shared multiple times in some form or another but it's a first for me.

Beyond pathetic.

what is with the guards not attacking hostile NPCs? in TOW they could do it(iirc), just copy pasta the code you obsidiots.

they were also patrolling around instead of standing still all day

goddammit it happened again

Spoiler

When people presented with worse shit they remember the shit as not so shit.

 

[Raghar]

Why do you people even know anything about a fucking Twitch streamer.

We are high brow philosopher, ex-game developers, and gaming elite. Of course we know everything about crazies on Twitch when they are gaming related, and when they occasionally make important points and valid criticism about random RPG/Strategy games.

 

[JarlFrank]

Such a cool detail.

This is a really bizarre inclusion when you consider the static physics-less props everywhere.

Easy to explain: the guy responsible for implementing the climbing/parkour system which contains this little detail was not the same guy responsible for implementing clutter objects and their (lack of) physics.

 

[Butter]

Such a cool detail.

This is a really bizarre inclusion when you consider the static physics-less props everywhere.

Easy to explain: the guy responsible for implementing the climbing/parkour system which contains this little detail was not the same guy responsible for implementing clutter objects and their (lack of) physics.

Alternative explanation: This is the first thing he worked on, and then Carrie Patel fired him when she saw him making an effort.

 

[Roguey]

Judging it on its own (poor) merits is exactly what most people are doing.
It seems to me that *your* reading comprehension activates on and off at your personal convenience. As usual.

Am I arguing with those people? No. I'm arguing with the Bethtards screeching about minutiae.

What do you think Carrie is thinking at this very moment Roguey?

I wouldn't know.

And these same cringe millennials and zoomers have NO life experience at all. They live inside their echo chambers and the tiny screen of their phone, so them trying to write something with nuance and complexity would require THEM to have nuance and complexity. The reason the writing is childlike and naive is because THEY are child like and naive. Garbage In---> Garbage Out. Simple as...

Life experience isn't necessarily important. Chris Avellone was a fat nerd from Virginia whose life experience was reading a lot of fantasy and sci-if literature. It's just fortunate he was a naturally critical person.

Well, not being able to mow down NPCs is probably the least important negative trait of the game, but I think it all boil down to expectation vs past games. Nobody cares about killing off everyone in a sci-fi setting (don't even remember if it was possible in KOTOR/KOTOR2?), but for fantasy there's plenty of past games that allows you to do that, so people expect that feature.

No one expected this in any of the Dragon Age games, the Witcher games, the Neverwinter Nights games, Divinity 2, Dungeon Siege III, Risen 2 and 3, Owlcat's Pathfinder games, Spiders' games (Bound by Flame, Greedfall), Solasta, etc.

-Obsidian picks their next game based on what the teams are interested in, and lunch discussions, not franchise or market potential.

Oh, puh-lease, that's Obsidian propaganda. Obsidian picks their games based on what Feargus and Parker want to do, Tim Cain revealed as much when he talked about how they had a call for everyone to make pitches and they rejected all of them because they had a particular project in mind that they wanted to do (Fallout meets Firefly) but wanted someone else in the company to come to the same conclusion on their own rather than just say "We want to do a Fallout meets Firefly game, give us a pitches oriented around that."

 

[Hace El Oso]

And these same cringe millennials and zoomers have NO life experience at all. They live inside their echo chambers and the tiny screen of their phone, so them trying to write something with nuance and complexity would require THEM to have nuance and complexity. The reason the writing is childlike and naive is because THEY are child like and naive. Garbage In---> Garbage Out. Simple as...

Life experience isn't necessarily important. Chris Avellone was a fat nerd from Virginia whose life experience was reading a lot of fantasy and sci-if literature. It's just fortunate he was a naturally critical person.

I’m not one of the people who imagine Chris Avellone as some kind of Herculean figure, but there is something going on where the demands of navigating day-to-day life have dropped precipitously in the ‘first world’ as has any incidental physicality. You don’t have to reverse your own car anymore, you don’t have to find your own way around anymore, you don’t have to go out into the world and talk to people face-to-face nearly as much anymore, and you’re being spied on constantly for good measure. 1990’s dork Avellone may as well be Tarzan by comparison, a bit like Neal Halford.

As much ‘friction’ as possible has been removed from daily life for all normies, and that means that being an exceptional normie is probably no longer enough to be a writer who is worth a damn. So where do you get your video game writers now?