Baldur's Gate #BaldurGate: Siege of Dragonspear

[Gay-Lussac]

But what's the other shit? And was the other shit ever allowed? I'm pretty sure in BG 2 you can rebuke Viconia for being a bitch, but you can never call her a slut for being very very promiscuous, for example. 1998 Bioware SJWs taking a stance against slut-shaming it seems. Disgusting.

Its FR and shes a drow. By those standards shes a like virgin among them. Besides, its not complete freedom that i want in a dialogue, especially in a bioware game, itd be ridonkulous to expect that, its about being able to challenge the author ideas, one extra option for that would not hurt.

Except your PC isn't a drow and BG 2 simply doesn't let you call her the dirty dirty slut she is, even though she describes using her evil female vagina powers to manipulate men in explicit detail. You were complaining you can't call the tranny an abomination and attack as a sign that the game has been sanitized and doesn't let you fully roleplay an evil character, I don't know how this is different.

Also of note, I'm still pissed to this day that they never gave us the option to lynch Valygar inside the Planar Sphere. Can be racist against the drow and half-orcs, but not a real nigger with dreadlocks and shit? Talk about hypocrisy.

 

[Excidium II]

"I'd make a better tranny" is a common thought to have when dealing with SJW freaks.

What i wouldnt give to be able to edit this so it looks like it has make up.

Makeup for everyone.

 

[Bubbles]

CRPGs... a theme park

You're playing the wrong cRPGs.

 

[Lhynn]

Except your PC isn't a drow and BG 2 simply doesn't let you call her the dirty dirty slut she is, even though she describes using her evil female vagina powers to manipulate men in explicit detail. You were complaining you can't call the tranny an abomination and attack as a sign that the game has been sanitized and doesn't let you fully roleplay an evil character, I don't know how this is different.

Actually you kinda do call her a cocktease, a bitch and the whole slut thing does come up now that im remembering. She asks you if you are jealous about her sleeping with other men and thats one of the options, but it was fairly deep on the romance and its been years since i played it, so i could be wrong.
As for the game being "sanitized", well, it was a game for childrens and teens bro.

Also of note, I'm still pissed to this day that they never gave us the option to lynch Valygar inside the Planar Sphere. Can be racist against the drow and half-orcs, but not a real nigger with dreadlocks and shit? Talk about hypocrisy.

The issue of race never comes up, he doesnt say "im a nigger, look at my black cock". you are free to murder him or ditch him if you want to tho.

 

[Tacgnol]

The issue of race never comes up, he doesnt say "im a nigger, look at my black cock". you are free to murder him or ditch him if you want to tho.

I doubt traditional racism would even be a problem in FR.

Terry Pratchett put it best:

Racism was not a problem on the Discworld, because — what with trolls and dwarfs and so on — speciesism was more interesting. Black and white lived in perfect harmony and ganged up on green.

 

[Excidium II]

That's a bit oversimplified, since there's still a variety of human nations with different cultures.

 

[Tacgnol]

That's a bit oversimplified, since there's still a variety of human nations with different cultures.

True, but in a world with multiple intelligent humanoids, I would expect racism as a whole to be more focused on different species.

 

[Azarkon]

I don't think that's right. Just because there exists a more alien "Other" does not make it so that humans stop being racists between themselves.

Example: Africans are racist as fuck against each other despite the presence of white people.

 

[Gauldur's Bait]

That's a bit oversimplified, since there's still a variety of human nations with different cultures.

I once met a scholar who seriously maintained that if you use the words "cultural difference" then you are racist.

 

[Excidium II]

I don't think that's necessarily accurate. Just because there exists a more alien "Other" does not make it so that humans stop being racists between themselves.

Example: Africans are racist as fuck against each other despite the presence of white people.

And Shadowrun for example of a fictional world. The west is multikult so prejudice tends to be focused on species but asians are still p. raycis. Granted it's a world where different intelligent species were introduced in the current century.

 

[mastroego]

That's a bit oversimplified, since there's still a variety of human nations with different cultures.

I once met a scholar who seriously maintained that if you use the words "cultural difference" then you are racist.

My friend, we have a Sweden thread on General Discussions.
You're welcome to check it out and despair.

 

[DeepOcean]

I don't think that's necessarily accurate. Just because there exists a more alien "Other" does not make it so that humans stop being racists between themselves.

Example: Africans are racist as fuck against each other despite the presence of white people.

And Shadowrun for example of a fictional world. The west is multikult so prejudice tends to be focused on species but asians are still p. raycis. Granted it's a world where different intelligent species were introduced in the current century.

Yeah, shadowrun is very reluctant to mention real life racism and do the "everyone is multikult because we don't want controversy". It would be very funny if Humanis was made of white supremacists and Black panthers that allied themselves against the new ork race but that would be to mess with a hornet nest.

 

[Lacrymas]

I'm starting to think that themes about racism in fantasy games are getting stale. What can they show us, seriously? "Hurr, durr racism is bad"? Yes, we get it, can we move on, please? There's so much untapped potential, but fantasy games keep going back to the same old cliches, over and over again until I puke from lobotomy-inducing boredom.

 

[Excidium II]

Maybe they should show racism is good.

 

[Turjan]

As for the game being "sanitized", well, it was a game for childrens and teens bro.

Getting teen ratings seems to get increasingly difficult. BG:EE is also missing the hookers that used to populate Beregost's nights.

 

[Immortal]

"I'd make a better tranny" is a common thought to have when dealing with SJW freaks.

What i wouldnt give to be able to edit this so it looks like it has make up.

 

[Excidium II]

Looks like JRPG remakes.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Citizen Lhynette

 

[Gauldur's Bait]

It's slowing down. Looks like a month or two nobody will remember this game exists.

 

[Excidium II]

 

[Lhynn]

Maybe they should show racism is good.

It can be.

 

[Space Insect]

Have there been any games that have tried to subvert it and make racism good? (Besides the obvious neo-nazi and kebab terrorist games)

 

[Lhynn]

As for the game being "sanitized", well, it was a game for childrens and teens bro.

Getting teen ratings seems to get increasingly difficult. BG:EE is also missing the hookers that used to populate Beregost's nights.

I played BG 1 in spanish first, great voice acting, better than the english version tbh.
Anyway, Hookers there were called "Meretriz". So BG1 taught me a new and useful word.

 

[Bubbles]

Have there been any games that have tried to subvert it and make racism good? (Besides the obvious neo-nazi and kebab terrorist games)

Maybe Neverwinter Nights?

 

[Hegel]

Morrowind.