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Mustawd

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Is Edwin / Edwina from BG2 technically a transgender character... male trapped in a female body?
It was a long time ago but I don't remember anyone gave it a second thought back then.


Of course not because it probably wasn't just shoe-horned in by a crappy writer who likes to wear dumb hats who wants to lecture us on being cisgender or something similar.

I say bring on the trannies. Good ones, bad ones, etc. Just don't lecture me via video game.
 

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The beauty of being a gamer, here, is that WE don't have to be politically correct.
We are just anonymous, potential customers.
If I'm disturbed by the very presence of trannies in a game (and, to be brutally honest, I kind of am), I'll simply keep the money in my wallet and leave the title on the digital shelf.

I don't even have to justify my choices or answer to angry, lecturing landwhales.
Maybe this thing will wake up developers to the reality that the majority of the population is not composed of trannies and there's only so much time we can be exposed to the subject before being fed up.
 

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Is Edwin / Edwina from BG2 technically a transgender character... male trapped in a female body?
It was a long time ago but I don't remember anyone gave it a second thought back then.
Yeah but he wasn't a real tranny.

More to the point, SJWs hadn't pissed everyone with their shit yet. Choices and consequences, and all that.

Oh god, imagine how pissed they'd be at Edwin/Edwina's situation. It was played entirely for laughs.
 

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I say bring on the trannies. Good ones, bad ones, etc. Just don't lecture me via video game.

I don't see anything really preachy about what that character says. It's simply a token "waaah i've been misunderstood all my life" character.
Problem is, the developers started preaching outside of the game, telling everybody how they must fix problems and how they're trying to use such characters as much as possible, that even if those lines didn't sound preachy now it's hard to not see them as such.
 

Mustawd

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Problem is, the developers started preaching outside of the game, telling everybody how they must fix problems and how they're trying to use such characters as much as possible, that even if those lines didn't sound preachy now it's hard to not see them as such.

Yeah, this is possibly what is triggering me the most TBH. Knowing the intent and all that just pisses me off.
 

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Problem is, the developers started preaching outside of the game, telling everybody how they must fix problems and how they're trying to use such characters as much as possible, that even if those lines didn't sound preachy now it's hard to not see them as such.

Yeah, this is possibly what is triggering me the most TBH. Knowing the intent and all that just pisses me off.

If they'd just included a line of dialogue where you could tell the tranny to fuck off, it would have softened it a lot.
 

Lyric Suite

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First i was like:

"Lol gamers are dead eat shit figgits bring back bullying lel"

Than i'm like:

"Ho muh soggy knee gooblegate is harassing us for no reason whatever did we do"

This whole situation in a nutshell.
 
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Indeed and both sides are as bad

What disingenuous bullshit. Where's the annoyingly out of place conservative values/non-SJW part of this expansion pack? If you can find it, I'll agree, but until then you're an idiot.
 

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Imagine an entire major release baldurs gate sequel written by this writing team... With Gaider leading the pussy.

It would be a clusterfuck of monumental proportions. I might just wish they get a chance to make it just for the lolz at release.
 
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Problem is, the developers started preaching outside of the game, telling everybody how they must fix problems and how they're trying to use such characters as much as possible, that even if those lines didn't sound preachy now it's hard to not see them as such.

Yeah, this is possibly what is triggering me the most TBH. Knowing the intent and all that just pisses me off.

If they'd just included a line of dialogue where you could tell the tranny to fuck off, it would have softened it a lot.
That's another thing. You could always be a snarky cunt to people in BG games.

The conversations with the new single mother womyn companion seem to lack that type of option too.
 

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Imagine an entire major release baldurs gate sequel written by this writing team... With Gaider leading the pussy.

It would be a clusterfuck of monumental proportions. I might just wish they get a chance to make it just for the lolz at release.

Dark Alliance 2 and Dungeon Siege 3 would be better RPGs....Speaking of that ,Dungeon Siege 3 had more options in the ending than Dragon Age 2. And that was an action game with RPG elements. Kinda bad!
 

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Man, I took a break from the internet during the weekend to finish off Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition so that I could start the new game ... and boy did this SJW shit blow up.

This game is becoming the largest SJW war since Dragon Age Inquisition, and without the usual "new generation casual gamers" to back up the SJW side, since Baldur's Gate's fans are old school, the SJW side is losing, hard.

I wonder what they're going to do about this.
 

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Problem is, the developers started preaching outside of the game, telling everybody how they must fix problems and how they're trying to use such characters as much as possible, that even if those lines didn't sound preachy now it's hard to not see them as such.

Yeah, this is possibly what is triggering me the most TBH. Knowing the intent and all that just pisses me off.

If they'd just included a line of dialogue where you could tell the tranny to fuck off, it would have softened it a lot.
That's another thing. You could always be a snarky cunt to people in BG games.

The conversations with the new single mother womyn companion seem to lack that type of option too.
Oh my god Corwin is atrocious. At first I thought she could be OK but then she wen't all balistic on me and how she thought higher of my CHARNAME, muh duty to the Baldur's Gate, what will people say when they'll find out you are a child of bhaal? Etc, etc. She tells you to be diplomatic and speak with the BigBadEvilWoman, when you do that and tell her that you can see the point the BBEW is making she goes DONT TELL ME YOU BELIEVE THAT BULLSHIT. When you propose to assasinate the BBEW she calls you dishonourable and just forces you to go "diplomatic"

Bipolar at best, definitively not stronk wommyn.
 

imweasel

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Well one thing is certain, Beamdog can scratch those plans for BG3.

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lol

Maybe he can write a book now. "A Virtual Tranny And the SJW Agenda Killed My Plans For World RPG Domination"
 

pippin

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This game is becoming the largest SJW war since Dragon Age Inquisition, and without the usual "new generation casual gamers" to back up the SJW side, since Baldur's Gate's fans are old school, the SJW side is losing, hard.

Was there any kind of war when DAI came out? At this point if you were angry by what they had in that game, you were really a noob. Besides, some sjws were angry that not everyone was bisexual. Legit angry, and more than the shitlords. To be honest, I remember the mini campaigns against The Witcher 3: Made of Rape to be more relevant among the sjw circles.
 

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Baldur’s Gate’s expansion adds diversity, and of course some people hate it
Jeff Grubb April 4, 2016 12:51 PM
Tags: Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition, Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear, Beamdog
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Above: Kill the mages! They're probably fans of social justice!
Image Credit: Beamdog
Last week, a gaming classic received an impressive new expansion, but its progressive take on certain characters is making some fans angry.
Last week, developer Beamdog released the Siege of Dragonspear expansion for Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition, and some gamers are angry that it features a transgendered cleric as well as three-dimensional women characters. You can read about some of these themes in our positive review for the add-on, which is the first new content for the original Baldur’s Gate since 1999. But some fans of that original game are furious that Beamdog would expand the beloved role-playing world to feature more inclusive writing and characterizations, this has led to dozens of heated threads on Baldur’s Gate’s forums and a deluge of negative user scores on the review-aggregation site Metacritic and the Steam PC gaming portal.
The studio has spent the last several years updating the old Baldur’s Gate games, and it is now transitioning that into building new entries in the series. This is a niche business in the $99.3 billion gaming industry, and it’s one that could implode for Beamdog if a wave of hatred from reactionaries is able to successfully portray Siege of Dragonspear as a terrible game.
GamesBeat reached out to Beamdog, which is preparing a statement as of publication time.
The criticisms from the enraged on Steam and Metacritic primarily focus on two aspects of Dragonspear. Mizhena is a transgendered person, and the beloved ranger character Minsc makes a joke about the hate group GamerGate. The joke is a reference to the motto of GamerGate: “actually, it’s about ethics in games journalism.” Instead, Minsc says it is about ethics in adventuring.
That’s it.
But this has led to 142 people posting negative user reviews for the expansion on Metacritic. The vast majority of those have a score of “zero.” This has led to a 3.6 average out of 10. We’ve seen mobs use Metacritic and Steam reviews in the past to punish a game they don’t like.
In the reviews and the posts on the message boards, you’ll find some common themes. People hate that “SJWs” have “gotten their hands on” the Baldur’s Gate franchise. SJW stands for “social justice warrior,” and it is a pejorative term that some circles on the Internet use to describe people who push for political correctness. Some claim they are not fans of “poor” writing, but others are more direct:
“Can the transgender character please be removed so my daughter [can play],” reads one post on Steam. “I live in Turkey and our society frowns upon non-binary sexual relations and genders. Once, my daughter saw a transgender person (male to female) and asked me about the whole situation. It wasn’t easy to explain everything. She chuckled every time I tried to sound serious about the situation.”
Poor guy. He had to talk to his daughter about a serious issue.
 

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Fuck BG3, that would likely suck. For a while I was excited for NWN:EE, as it might reignite the modding scene, but I doubt they would want to learn an entirely new engine now and work with 5 billion modders to implement their improvements...
 

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