Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[PompiPompi]

So is BG3 kind of like Oblivion without open world?

 

[Gargaune]

Damn, NJClaw, you weren't kidding about Stealth initiative being broken. I arrived at the Blighted Village goblin ambush - long story short, I snuck two characters ahead and kicked one goblin off the right-hand house, but this only caused my Ranger to enter combat along with all the goblins. Then I could freely sneak Shadowheart from the gates all the way up the opposite house out of initiative, shove one goblin off, and then the other as well, as he seemingly hadn't noticed his bro taking flight right next to him.

I guess they're trying to work around multiplayer, but this is downright comical. Maybe a stopgap could be to force all characters under a given player's control to join initiative as soon as combat is started for any of them, even if they're not in the area. That way it shouldn't mess with their coop but singleplayer will treat combat properly, like in ToEE.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

It's forgotten realms.

MOTB is forgotten realm setting, yet provide more interesting story than anything Larian has provided in their entire existence.

And yet MOTB had a garbage combat system.

Comparing BG3 to MOTB is also kind of a dumb non sequitur, since BG1&2 can't compare to MOTB either.

 

[Kazuki]

And yet MOTB had a garbage combat system.

No gonna denying that, because it's the truth.

If i had my way, i force Larian to never attempt to write ever again and should just make a combat focused game. Because that's the only thing i find redeemable about their game.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

I guess they're trying to work around multiplayer, but this is downright comical. Maybe a stopgap could be to force all characters under a given player's control to join initiative as soon as combat is started for any of them, even if they're not in the area. That way it shouldn't mess with their coop but singleplayer will treat combat properly, like in ToEE.

yeah, I've seen livestreams where people get in combat on one end of a map and their friends are all on the other end, so this is probably for multiplayer.

maybe make this a multiplayer only feature though or something you have to check in settings because it's pretty silly.

 

[Horvatii]

game needs wide empty maps like empty woods in bg

maps ive seen on screens look like rooms with corridors between em

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

And yet MOTB had a garbage combat system.

No gonna denying that, because it's the truth.

If i had my way, i force Larian to never attempt to write ever again and should just make a combat focused game. Because that's the only thing i find redeemable about their game.

Or just force them to hire Punished Avellone to do all their writing.

I missed what you found so dumb about their writing in this though. It's 100x better than their usual cartoon garbage, with the exception of the character motives in the goblin v druid grove questline, which they said they would re-write.

Shadowheart/Astarion/Lae'zel all seem decently written and better than most Bioware/Obsidian characters. Same with Gale. The mindflayer plothook is similar to devour soul in MOTB in its novelty.

Companions aren't likable like Keldorn though, they're more hateable like Anomen or Edwin, but they aren't obnoxious nonsensical retards like all the NWN2 characters were.

 

[Kazuki]

Keep in mind that the game still EA, there's more likely the game will be shit in term of Character and story writing in later chapter.

Basing at current state is either too optimistic or foolishly naive that they will improve it. Judging by their previous game i will say it with confidence they will never improve it at all.

Once a shit tier writer, will always be shit tier writer. And at the current climate, it will dogshit tier of level.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Keep in my mind the game still EA, there's more likely the game will be shit in term of Character and story writing in later chapter.

“Keep in mind, it’s early access, so it will get worse” is the inverse of the it’s early access so it will get better fallacy.

I judge a game by what it is, not what it will be and currently they’ve give a massive commitment to simulating the tabletop experience that’s above and beyond what was promised and what we would have expected from companies like Obsidian.

The amount of stat rolls in dialog and normal gameplay and their consequences shocked me and I’ve been playing RPGs for decades.

Once a shit tier writer, will always be shit tier writer. And at the current climate, it will dogshit tier of level.

By that logic, Chris Avellone can never write a good game, since he wrote Aerie’s dumb romance in BG2 or whatever (I actually don’t remember who wrote her ).

I’ve already seen improvement from them in this game, so your statement is probably false. Tbh, I think it’s mostly due to the cinematic dialog forcing them to view dialog as actual sentences characters are speaking instead of opportunities for more dumb jokes.

 

[Varnaan]

I’ve already seen improvement from them in this game, so your statement is probably false. Tbh, I think it’s mostly due to the cinematic dialog forcing them to view dialog as actual sentences characters are speaking instead of opportunities for more dumb jokes.

If you remember the early previews and demos they completely changed the style of the dialogues after negative feedback for the early access.

 

[Fenix]

Vampires are cool.

Get away from me, bloodsucker!

game needs wide empty maps like empty woods in bg

maps ive seen on screens look like rooms with corridors between em

They look like one long corridor with forks, you are not the only one who oticed that.
Actually, in one thread it almost grew to a meme level, I'm fairly sure if situations with corridors will continue, Larians will get that new meme in the face.

 

[The_Mask]

Get away from me, bloodsucker!

Everyone's a hater until the topic of immortality is brought up.

 

[Catacombs]

I just started playing tonight. I really like the inclusion of a narrator.

 

[Catacombs]

Salvo: I'm about three hours in, and I'm not annoyed with it (yet). What do you not like about it?

 

[Salvo]

Salvo: I'm about three hours in, and I'm not annoyed with it (yet). What do you not like about it?

Not much to explain man, I just don't like it. Had it muted in Original Sin 2 aswell.

I also read much faster than the narrator does, and feel that the monotone voice detracts from atmospheric descriptions. If you ever listened to an audiobook you'll understand the difference between this and good narration.

 

[Gyor]

Someone datamined BG3 and found the following race tags in the game.

Spoiler

HUMAN, GITHYANKI, DRAGONBORN, HALFORC, TIEFLING, MEPHISTOPHELESTIEFLING, ASMODEUSTIEFLING, ZARIELTIEFLING, ELF, DROWELF, SELDARINEDROWELF, LOLTHDROWELF, HIGHELF, WOODELF, HALFELF, DROWHALFELF, HALFLING, LIGHTFOOTHALFLING, STOUTHALFLING, GNOME, ROCKGNOME, DEEPGNOME, FORESTGNOME, HILLDWARF, MOUNTAINDWARF, DUERGARDWARF, AARAKOCRA, KENKU, LIZARDFOLK, TABAXI, TORTLE, FIRBOLG, AASIMAR, GENASI, TRITON, WARFORGED, YUANTIPUREBLOOD . Surprisingly not Goblin or Gnoll although NPCs of both races are in the game

 

[Lawntoilet]

No gonna denying that, because it's the truth.

If i had my way, i force Larian to never attempt to write ever again and should just make a combat focused game. Because that's the only thing i find redeemable about their game.

BG3 has too many D:OS holdovers in my opinion but the writing isn't one of them. I hated the writing in both those games, and quite honestly I expected to hate this game, but the writing is fine here (occasionally worse than "fine," but often it's even better than "fine.")

Once a shit tier writer, will always be shit tier writer. And at the current climate, it will dogshit tier of level.

This isn't true, people can improve most skills if they work at it and that includes writing. Don't use this attitude as an excuse to continue writing incoherent things like this comment.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Someone datamined BG3 and found the following race tags in the game.

Spoiler

HUMAN, GITHYANKI, DRAGONBORN, HALFORC, TIEFLING, MEPHISTOPHELESTIEFLING, ASMODEUSTIEFLING, ZARIELTIEFLING, ELF, DROWELF, SELDARINEDROWELF, LOLTHDROWELF, HIGHELF, WOODELF, HALFELF, DROWHALFELF, HALFLING, LIGHTFOOTHALFLING, STOUTHALFLING, GNOME, ROCKGNOME, DEEPGNOME, FORESTGNOME, HILLDWARF, MOUNTAINDWARF, DUERGARDWARF, AARAKOCRA, KENKU, LIZARDFOLK, TABAXI, TORTLE, FIRBOLG, AASIMAR, GENASI, TRITON, WARFORGED, YUANTIPUREBLOOD . Surprisingly not Goblin or Gnoll although NPCs of both races are in the game

yeah, I've opened the game files and seen all the area tags. Didn't go over them carefully since I don't want to spoil myself, but Baldur's Gate seems like it will be a pretty big city, the gith cresh is an actual area and not just a meme too...

Spoiler

ps: boo can die and functions like a summon

anyway, back to work removing Diversity.

 

[sullynathan]

I'm just curious how larian studios are going to figure out a way to somehow revive and reuse Braccus Rex in a game that takes place in the forgotten realms.

They're the only ones that like Braccus Rex. I'm interested in how he'll be back in Original Sin 3

Depends on the canon ending.
They differ pretty wildly.

The purge source Lucian and Godwoken is alive ending is canon.

 

[sullynathan]

rusty_shackleford https://www.pcgamesn.com/divinity-f...multiple endings to,no longer has that power.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

rusty_shackleford https://www.pcgamesn.com/divinity-fallen-heroes/story-gameplay#:~:text=There are multiple endings to,no longer has that power.

the game was canceled

 

[sullynathan]

rusty_shackleford https://www.pcgamesn.com/divinity-fallen-heroes/story-gameplay#:~:text=There are multiple endings to,no longer has that power.

the game was canceled

Any confirmation from Larian? because as of right now I just know it's in indefinite hold.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

rusty_shackleford https://www.pcgamesn.com/divinity-fallen-heroes/story-gameplay#:~:text=There are multiple endings to,no longer has that power.

the game was canceled

Any confirmation from Larian? because as of right now I just know it's in indefinite hold.

Putting something on "indefinite hold" without a peep for an entire year means it was canceled.
Logic Artists(the devs) are working on another Expeditions game after THQ Nordic acquired the IP.

 

[sullynathan]

rusty_shackleford https://www.pcgamesn.com/divinity-fallen-heroes/story-gameplay#:~:text=There are multiple endings to,no longer has that power.

the game was canceled

Any confirmation from Larian? because as of right now I just know it's in indefinite hold.

Putting something on "indefinite hold" without a peep for an entire year means it was canceled.
Logic Artists(the devs) are working on another Expeditions game after THQ Nordic acquired the IP.

More than likely Larian themselves have put it on the backburner and will make a real "Original Sin 3" after BG3. This doesn't mean they will ditch everything they already had for fallen heroes at this point.

 

[Tavernking]

rusty_shackleford https://www.pcgamesn.com/divinity-fallen-heroes/story-gameplay#:~:text=There are multiple endings to,no longer has that power.

the game was canceled

Any confirmation from Larian? because as of right now I just know it's in indefinite hold.

Putting something on "indefinite hold" without a peep for an entire year means it was canceled.
Logic Artists(the devs) are working on another Expeditions game after THQ Nordic acquired the IP.

More than likely Larian themselves have put it on the backburner and will make a real "Original Sin 3" after BG3. This doesn't mean they will ditch everything they already had for fallen heroes at this point.

Followed shortly after by Baldur's Gate 4