Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[underground nymph]

The player gains high ground advantage in the following fight.

This one is weird though, since he doesn’t get advantages from high ground during the fight with skeletons, but then SH gets it.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

The removal of the advantage when attacking from behind is great news.

But did they remove it or just replace it with this "hide when you are behind the enemy" thing? You just need another click. I guess you can't do it when you are in direct line of sight of another enemy, but that's small comfort, and it's still not allowed imo.

Both were already in place. They just removed the former.

Someone on the BG3 Reddit has pointed out that

Copy-pasted from the official forum, just for the record.
We were discussing this yesterday.

 

[underground nymph]

They just removed the former.

So I guess another 1000 posts on Larian forums, a couple of polls and a petition will fix this one as well.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

They just removed the former.

So I guess another 1000 posts on Larian forums, a couple of polls and a petition will fix this one as well.

And we have yet to see if they did anything about height advantage, too.

 

[Lacrymas]

Yeah, sure, you can fuck and knock up the entire harem, but it's not what you do with it for the vast majority of the time. You don't have enough stamina and time to have sex with all your harem women constantly. You could also have a harem of women even when you are not (very) interested in women. Look at Alexander the Great. So, a lich could have a harem of succubi no problem even with no working organs or carnal drives.

Give this guy an "Undead Sex Expert" tag already. He has taught me so much about both lich and skeleton sex lives.

You forgot vampires.

 

[Cryomancer]

Talking about vampires, this game needs a way to kill Astarion in the most painful way possible. Just killing him is too good. Hexxat in my last BG2:EE save is polymorphed and imprisoned via imprison spell. Astarion deserves a worse fate.

 

[NJClaw]

Anyway, I think we shouldn't sleep on Disengage going from Bonus Action to Action:

It was already achievable through mods, but it's another step in the right direction. The problem is that these are all very small steps and, at this pace, the game won't reach its full potential in time for the release date.

One thing that scares me is the fact that those horrible mind-numbingly animations attached to every single mundane action are still there. I get why spells need animations, but actions such as jumping, dashing, and disengaging definitely don't. The fear that this shit is going to be in the final version of the game grows stronger and stronger.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

If they did show a new animation for the disengage when they talked about it, I must have missed it.

 

[NJClaw]

If they did show a new animation for the disengage when they talked about it, I must have missed it.

It's the usual "the character becomes a super sayan with a bluish aura for a brief moment" shit.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

If they did show a new animation for the disengage when they talked about it, I must have missed it.

It's the usual "the character becomes a super sayan with a bluish aura for a brief moment" shit.

Have a timestamp, a gif, anything?

Personally, speaking of cosmetic details, one thing I can't stand currently is how projectile weapons look.
You have these arrows and bolts flying with a "floppy" curve as is if was some kid spitting paper bullets with a blowgun rather than a skilled marksman shooting at a target.

 

[Gargaune]

The worst thing about it is that, at least in that video, those voice lines drown out the companions' lines, which are more rare and interesting.

I'd rather say that the worst thing about it is that Larian put effort into developing a "Point & Click" bark dispenser rather than an actual Point & Click system. The naming looks like they're deliberately taking the piss at this point.

In this case, the problem is how BG3 handles monsters' vision cones: everyone should be able to see behind their backs.

Stealth's always been crippled by the design not accounting for noise. As things stand even Anomen could creep up behind a guard, rattling his chainmail and his breadbox all along his merry way.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Stealth's always been crippled by the design not accounting for noise. As things stand even Anomen could creep up behind a guard, rattling his chainmail and his breadbox all along his merry way.

The armour gives disadvantage to the stealth check. Or am I misunderstanding what you're getting at?

 

[Divine Blessing]

if i beat u to unconsciousness, u may call me Pacifier. but if u call me Pacifist, i ll beat u again. and again. and again.

sry, but this alleged pacifist mode is a hypocrit option for pseudos. a true (and woke btw) pacifist mode would exclusively install options to prevent or at least evade combat and violence at any costs - maybe via sneaking, social engineering and scheming, but for sure not via pacifying the enemies with blunt weapons and the fantasy version of gas grenades...

but lets raise a flag to overall awareness, at least everyone may be trigger-hippie minimal-invasive now and proudly proclaim their tolerance. this is were majority of games fail - to at least deliver an existential minimum of understanding what pacifism, equality etc. means. cuz they cant, as they r a part of the class system.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Stealth's always been crippled by the design not accounting for noise. As things stand even Anomen could creep up behind a guard, rattling his chainmail and his breadbox all along his merry way.

The armour gives disadvantage to the stealth check. Or am I misunderstanding what you're getting at?

It should, and in game they are labeled as if they would do it.
Too bad that according to Larian's custom modification of the rule you'll have to pass a stealth check only if in the "cone of vision" of enemies. If you are out of it you can basically moving at will without any risk of being detected.
It could sort-of work if it was only as initiation when you are in real time, but this actually applies even after the enemies are already alerted, during turn based combat. What's worse, you can exploit the system introducing your party members ONE BY ONE to the combat sneaking around in real time, while enemies are frozen in the combat queue (which your characters will join only after their first attack).

There would be easy ways to fix every single one of these problems, IF Larian actually cared about how laughably exploitable their current system is.

- For a start, at least once already in combat, enemies should be considered as "alerted" and watching around themselves at 360 degrees
-approaching them in stealth should require a check, not being a guaranteed effect.
- If you are in a forgiving mood you could make so that sneaking "outside of their cone of vision" while already in combat would give a marginal bonus, making the stealth check a bit easier, under the assumption that "their attention isn't equally distributed on their entire surrounding" or something.
- Once the first party member makes his first real-time initiation from stealth, any other character close enough to the fight should immediately be put in the turn-based initiative queue, even if remaining in stealth for the current turn.

I guess Larian's worry is "What if it's a multiplayer session and the other player doesn't want to join the fight started from his partner?".
To which my answer would be "Well, tough luck, motherfucker". If you are hanging around with a psychopath murderhobo it makes only sense that as the idiot procures a fight you'll be involved even if you didn't want to. Choose better company next time. And don't attempt to ruin the game for everyone else with your stupid whiny "What ifs" as we are on it. Sucker.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Stealth's always been crippled by the design not accounting for noise. As things stand even Anomen could creep up behind a guard, rattling his chainmail and his breadbox all along his merry way.

The armour gives disadvantage to the stealth check. Or am I misunderstanding what you're getting at?

It should, and in game they are labeled as if they would do it.
Too bad that according to Larian's custom modification of the rule you'll have to pass a stealth check only if in the "cone of vision" of enemies. If you are out of it you can basically moving at will without any risk of being detected.
It could sort-of work if it was only as initiation when you are in real time, but this actually applies even after the enemies are already alerted, during turn based combat. What's worse, you can exploit the system introducing your party members ONE BY ONE to the combat sneaking around in real time, while enemies are frozen in the combat queue (which your characters will join only after their first attack).

There would be easy ways to fix every single one of these problems, IF Larian actually cared about how laughably exploitable their current system is.

- For a start, at least once already in combat, enemies should be considered as "alerted" and watching around themselves at 360 degrees
-approaching them in stealth should require a check, not being a guaranteed effect.
- If you are in a forgiving mood you could make so that sneaking "outside of their cone of vision" while already in combat would give a marginal bonus, making the stealth check a bit easier, under the assumption that "their attention isn't equally distributed on their entire surrounding" or something.
- Once the first party member makes his first real-time initiation from stealth, any other character close enough to the fight should immediately be put in the turn-based initiative queue, even if remaining in stealth for the current turn.

I guess Larian's worry is "What if it's a multiplayer session and the other player doesn't want to join the fight started from his partner?".
To which my answer would be "Well, tough luck, motherfucker". If you are hanging around with a psychopath murderhobo it makes only sense that as the idiot procures a fight you'll be involved even if you didn't want to. Choose better company next time. And don't attempt to ruin the game for everyone else with your stupid whiny "What ifs" as we are on it. Sucker.

This game often feels like 1 step forward 2 steps back. It sucks because I think they're on the edge of something great, only to have really basic retarded stuff like this.

 

[Cryomancer]

sry, but this alleged pacifist mode is a hypocrit option for pseudos. a true (and woke btw) pacifist mode would exclusively install options to prevent or at least evade combat and violence at any costs - maybe via sneaking, social engineering and scheming, but for sure not via pacifying the enemies with blunt weapons and the fantasy version of gas grenades...

Agreed. But is great to see a game where you don't need to kill defeated foes in combat. Lets be real, most duels IRL was till first blood and rarely ended on death. Even medieval tournaments. Being able to knock down enemies without killing him is something rare. Gothic 1/2/3 allows you to do that and I love it.

 

[The_Mask]

Why do liches always have creepy sex dungeons anyway? Why not live in a house or a castle?

Crispy - please help us here.

 

[NJClaw]

If they did show a new animation for the disengage when they talked about it, I must have missed it.

It's the usual "the character becomes a super sayan with a bluish aura for a brief moment" shit.

Have a timestamp, a gif, anything?

At 6:50:

Spoiler

In this case, the problem is how BG3 handles monsters' vision cones: everyone should be able to see behind their backs.

Stealth's always been crippled by the design not accounting for noise. As things stand even Anomen could creep up behind a guard, rattling his chainmail and his breadbox all along his merry way.

But that's just a consequence of how they handle vision cones: monsters can only detect characters in their vision cones, so your noise only matters if you are directly in front of them (otherwise you won't be forced to make a Stealth check). Removing those damned cones and implementing an all-around vision would force you to make a Stealth check whenever you approach an enemy, making noise matter (where "matter", in the context of 5E, almost always means getting disadvantage or advantage).

 

[Swen]

Stealth's always been crippled by the design not accounting for noise. As things stand even Anomen could creep up behind a guard, rattling his chainmail and his breadbox all along his merry way.

The armour gives disadvantage to the stealth check. Or am I misunderstanding what you're getting at?

It should, and in game they are labeled as if they would do it.
Too bad that according to Larian's custom modification of the rule you'll have to pass a stealth check only if in the "cone of vision" of enemies. If you are out of it you can basically moving at will without any risk of being detected.
It could sort-of work if it was only as initiation when you are in real time, but this actually applies even after the enemies are already alerted, during turn based combat. What's worse, you can exploit the system introducing your party members ONE BY ONE to the combat sneaking around in real time, while enemies are frozen in the combat queue (which your characters will join only after their first attack).

There would be easy ways to fix every single one of these problems, IF Larian actually cared about how laughably exploitable their current system is.

- For a start, at least once already in combat, enemies should be considered as "alerted" and watching around themselves at 360 degrees
-approaching them in stealth should require a check, not being a guaranteed effect.
- If you are in a forgiving mood you could make so that sneaking "outside of their cone of vision" while already in combat would give a marginal bonus, making the stealth check a bit easier, under the assumption that "their attention isn't equally distributed on their entire surrounding" or something.
- Once the first party member makes his first real-time initiation from stealth, any other character close enough to the fight should immediately be put in the turn-based initiative queue, even if remaining in stealth for the current turn.

I guess Larian's worry is "What if it's a multiplayer session and the other player doesn't want to join the fight started from his partner?".
To which my answer would be "Well, tough luck, motherfucker". If you are hanging around with a psychopath murderhobo it makes only sense that as the idiot procures a fight you'll be involved even if you didn't want to. Choose better company next time. And don't attempt to ruin the game for everyone else with your stupid whiny "What ifs" as we are on it. Sucker.

This game often feels like 1 step forward 2 steps back. It sucks because I think they're on the edge of something great, only to have really basic retarded stuff like this.

Last patch were only steps forward though. Rest of the system mechanics will become better as well with time.

 

[Grunker]

Yeah, sure, you can fuck and knock up the entire harem, but it's not what you do with it for the vast majority of the time. You don't have enough stamina and time to have sex with all your harem women constantly. You could also have a harem of women even when you are not (very) interested in women. Look at Alexander the Great. So, a lich could have a harem of succubi no problem even with no working organs or carnal drives.

Opening the Codex is like 50% "Man, I can't believe I ever leave this place, look at this cool post about some awesome RPG I forgot existed or didn't even know about" and 50% *closes tab* "fuck I feel dirty I need to take a shower to get rid of the awkward autism"

 

[Infinitron]

GameBanshee preview: https://www.gamebanshee.com/previews/125194-baldur-s-gate-iii-preview/all-pages.html

Introduction

Larian Studios opened up Baldur's Gate III to early access in October of last year. At that time my computer was on its last legs, and it had all sorts of the trouble running the game, with crashes and lockups galore, even with the graphics on their lowest settings. I still puttered around with the game a little, but my progress was slow, and every time I got about halfway through the available content, Larian released a patch that invalidated existing saved games (I could have ignored these patches and kept going, but since I'm writing a preview, I figured I should be playing the most recent version). But then eventually the stars aligned, and I was able to snag a CPU and a GPU and put a new computer together, and finally play the game unhindered.

So this preview is for the most recent version of the game -- that's Community Update #12 / Patch 4 for those of you playing along at home -- which includes the druid class and just about everything from the Prologue and Chapter 1. This is a sizeable chunk of content -- it took me over 20 hours to complete it -- and I think it's enough to show what Larian intends for the game.

Spoiler

Characters

The first thing you do in a game of Baldur's Gate III is create your character. At some point in the future, you'll be able to choose one of the pre-made "Origin Characters" (just like in Divinity: Original Sin 2), but for now those characters are only available as companions, and you have to build your character from scratch.

Larian is using the Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition ruleset for Baldur's Gate III. That means characters are defined by their race, class, ability scores, and skills. You're also given some cosmetic choices for your character, including a wide range of appearances (so if you want your human character to look like Papa Smurf, you can do it). I can't tell yet if gender is cosmetic or not. I don't remember anybody commenting on it, and if companion romances exist at all, you can't get very far with them in Chapter 1.

The races in the game include drow, dwarf, elf, githyanki, half-elf, halfling, human, and tiefling. Each race gives you a collection of bonuses and proficiencies. For example, drow gain Superior Darkvision (which allows them to see well in the dark), proficiencies with rapiers and shortswords, a bonus to perception checks, +1 charisma, +2 dexterity, and more. Meanwhile, humans gain +1 to each ability score, which is boring but useful.

Classes currently include cleric, druid, fighter, ranger, rogue, warlock and wizard, but I've seen game files for bard, monk and paladin as well, so this part of the game appears to be a work in progress. Chances are, when Baldur's Gate III eventually ships, it'll have all of the 5E base classes. Each class has at least two sub-classes, which you either pick right away or at Level 3. Multi-classing is not yet allowed. As with races, classes give you a variety of bonuses. For example, fighters gain proficiencies for all weapons and armor, plus bonuses to strength and constitution checks.

Ability scores are the same as you've no doubt seen in countless other D&D games (and their copycats) -- strength, dexterity, constitution, intelligence, wisdom and charisma -- and they do about what you'd expect. For example, strength improves melee damage and attack rolls, and increases carrying capacity. You get a certain number of points to spend on ability scores when you create your character (no rolling for scores, at least not yet), and you get two additional points every four levels. Ability scores can't advance beyond 20, which limits the amount of min-maxing you can do.

Skills include things like history, persuasion, religion, and sleight of hand. All characters have access to all skills, but they don't receive skill points or anything like that. Instead, their ability scores give them a base value in each skill, and then they choose a handful of skills (based on their class and "background") to become proficient in. The proficiency bonus starts out as +2, but then grows as characters gain levels.

As an example, the sleight of hand skill (which is used when disarming traps and picking locks) is based on dexterity. With a dexterity score of 16, you start out with +3 in the skill. If you're also proficient in it (say, if you're playing a rogue), then you add your proficiency bonus to the score for a total of +5. All skill checks use a d20 die, so +5 means you have a 25% better chance to succeed over somebody who is at +0.

I didn't much like the skill check system, and the example in the previous paragraph is the reason why. If focusing on a skill only gives you a 25% better chance over someone who is totally inept in it, then something is wrong. Worse, it means that any character can succeed in any skill check, if you don't mind save scumming. This is an area, I think, where Larian following the 5E rules exactly is a mistake. They should adapt the rules to work in the medium they're using. You can't repeatedly reload your game in a tabletop setting, but the temptation is great when playing on a computer / console, especially when your d20 roll fails to beat a 5.

To offset d20 roll frustration -- at least a little bit -- Larian uses "inspiration points." These points can be gained in a few places in the campaign, and you can use each point for a second roll during skill checks. So if you fail to beat a 5 on your first roll, you can spend an inspiration point and try again. Of course, inspiration points are rare, so you can't use them all the time. You have to pick your spots -- which for me means I never use them because I'm always worried I should save them for someplace "really important."

In my latest game, I played as a druid. I gave him the "urchin" background, which made him proficient in sleight of hand. Since he also had 14 dexterity, that gave him +4 to the skill, making him about as good as any rogue in rogue-like activities. For me, that just felt wrong. Druids and rogues shouldn't have much in common. I preferred the 2E skill system in Baldur's Gate II where classes were restricted in what skills they could use, if they could use any skills at all. But then, admittedly, I'm old, and you whippersnappers should get off my lawn.

Campaign

You begin the game on board a flying mind flayer vessel called a nautiloid. You've been kidnapped by the mind flayers, and they've infected you with a parasite that will eventually turn you into a mind flayer yourself. Apparently, that's how mind flayers procreate. Who knew? But luckily, the vessel is attacked by a githyanki war party, and it crashes into the countryside outside of Baldur's Gate.

While you're exploring this region, you meet other survivors of the wreck -- all infected like you -- and five of these characters become available as companions. Unlike most RPGs, it makes sense for the companion characters to join you, because you all have a common goal -- to find somebody who can remove the ticking time bomb of a parasite from your head. And conveniently, the companion characters cover the basic classes -- cleric, fighter, rogue, warlock and wizard -- so it's easy to form a party of up to four characters, regardless of which class you choose for your main character.

The crash site region has a lot of variety to it. There's a druid grove where tiefling refugees are hiding out from goblins. There's a burning inn where people need to be rescued. There's a bog where a wicked witch has set up shop. There's an entrance to the Underdark, where you can pal around with a community of myconids. And more. In fact, there's so much stuff in the region that's it's a little difficult to believe, even in the context of a fictional computer game setting. It doesn't feel like a living, breathing place. It feels more like a greatest hits album.

There's a similar problem with the combat. Larian eschews trash fights, but to make the battles more meaningful, they've all but turned each one into a boss fight, complete with a bunch of crazy bosses. You can only reach Level 4 in the game right now, but you still encounter beholders, bulettes, harpies, mind flayers, minotaurs, and owlbears -- plus, of course, the wicked witch and a series of goblin bosses. I sort of worry that Larian is going to run through the entire Monster Manual before the end of Chapter 2, and then not have anything left for the rest of the game.

Of course, while you're visiting this smorgasbord of enemies and locales, you also meet a bunch of people who need your help. The quests they give you usually work pretty well, and there are always options for how to complete them. For example, at one point you meet a wounded tiefling hiding out from a group of paladins. The tiefling tells you that the paladins are really henchmen working for the demon she escaped from, while the paladins tell you that the tiefling is a cold-hearted murderess. So whom do you believe, and what do you do? This example quest is all about combat, but in other cases you can bribe, charm, deceive or intimidate your way to success -- assuming the Random Number Gods favor you and you win your skill checks.

The writing in the game is good but not great. There aren't any megalomaniacal creatures running around doing evil things just because they're the designated bad guy. Characters are given motivations, and everything makes sense. But while I've found the dialogue to be intellectually interesting, it hasn't affected me in any sort of emotional way. Every so often Larian tries really hard to tug at your heartstrings -- oh, no, a tiefling child was caught stealing, and a hardline druid wants to kill her! -- or they throw in a squirrel for comedic effect, but most of the time I didn't really care what happened, or if the people involved lived or died.

This extends to the companions, who aren't exactly personable. The more they approve of what you do, the more they talk to you, and the more you learn about them -- which presumably will lead to quest and romance options later in the game. But the companions add so little so far that I wouldn't mind dropping them altogether and creating three more characters from scratch -- only it's not allowed, at least not yet. Of course, the caveat here is that it's still early in the game, so maybe we're still in the getting-to-know-you phase, and the companions will bloom once the watering has been completed.

So far I haven't noticed any links to the first two Baldur's Gate games -- or, really, much that makes me think of the Forgotten Realms. Volo shows up briefly in the druid grove, but that's about it. Maybe later we'll see Drizzt again -- it's tradition, after all -- and get another crack at Twinkle and Icingdeath.

I'm probably making the campaign sound worse than it is. The creatures, quests, and locations are all solidly crafted, and the excellent voice acting (especially from Amelia Tyler as the narrator) really sells the dialogue. If Larian continues in this vein, then Baldur's Gate III is going to be just fine.

Combat

Baldur's Gate III uses turn-based combat. When a fight starts up, the characters involved in the battle are ordered using their initiative stat, which is derived from their dexterity. Then the characters take their turn, during which they can move, perform an action, and perform a bonus action, in any order. The amount they can move is based on their race. Actions are typically attacks and spells, while bonus actions are more utility-oriented, such as jumping and quaffing potions.

If one of your characters loses all of their hit points, then they're knocked unconscious rather than killed. This allows any other character in your party to "help" them and restore them to 1 hit point. You can also cast healing spells on unconscious characters to get them going again. If an unconscious character takes enough damage, then they finally die, and you have to revive them using a Scroll of Revivify (or possibly a Raise Dead spell later in the game when clerics are high enough level to cast it). Failing everything else, you can also pay to revive characters, but to do that you have to visit a specific location, which means you have to finish the fight first.

Because Baldur's Gate III is a Larian game, the environment plays an important role. There aren't as many elemental effects and barrels as in the Original Sin games, but they're still there. More importantly, height makes a difference. Characters on high ground have an advantage over characters below them, and characters on low ground have a disadvantage against characters above them. So half the battle sometimes is positioning your party in the best possible way.

Using my most recent party as an example, during the first round of combat, my druid might shapeshift into a bear (bonus action) and then move and attack someone with his claws (action). Lae'zel the fighter might cast Tyr's Protection (a bonus action available from her sword) to improve her AC, move and attack someone with her sword (action), and then invoke Action Surge (a once-per-battle ability) to gain another action and attack again. Gale the wizard might cast Misty Step (bonus action) to teleport to a good spot and then cast Magic Missile to damage an opponent (action). And Shadowheart the cleric might cast Survival Instinct on a character (usually Gale) to keep him from getting knocked unconscious (bonus action), and then cast either Bless or Bane (action) to improve the attacks rolls of the party or reduce the attack rolls of the enemies.

I enjoy turn-based combat, so perhaps I'm biased, but I thought the battle engine worked pretty well. You're given lots of options for what to do, and the enemy AI is competent. Enemies move to high ground when they can, they target your spellcasters relentlessly, and they know when to cast area-effect spells (or throw bombs) so they damage you and not their allies. The battles are also difficult, which is nice, but this might have something to do with being limited to Level 4 in the game, which you can reach about halfway through the available content. At Level 5, for example, fighters gain a second attack per turn, which makes them much more powerful. Larian will probably be tinkering with the difficulty until the game is eventually released.

Because combat is tough and characters can't memorize many spells yet, that means you need to camp fairly often to keep your party battle-ready. For some reason, there are two kinds of camps: a regular camp where you completely heal and memorize all of your spells, and a short rest where you heal a little and regain some abilities (like Lae'zel's Action Surge). The regular camp takes place on its own small map and gives you a place where you can store items, and it acts as your base of operations for the game. Interestingly, despite having a parasite in your head, you can camp as often as you want, and there isn't any downside. There isn't any time limit in the game.

Conclusion

So far it looks like Larian is doing with Baldur's Gate what Bethesda did with Fallout -- putting one of their games into an existing franchise. Bethesda was lucky in a sense that the post-apocalyptic setting from Fallout wasn't anything like the Elder Scrolls setting, and so nobody confused Fallout 3 with Skyrim 2. But with Larian, the opposite is true, and with a few edits here and there, Baldur's Gate III could easily be Divinity: Original Sin 3.

Is that good or bad? The answer might depend on your age. I grew up with the Baldur's Gate series, and so I'm wary of a new game in the franchise that doesn't have anything to do with the original games, has a completely different style, uses a new rule set, and has so many tieflings and githyanki around that it barely feels like it's in the Forgotten Realms. Larian could have just started their own Dungeons & Dragons franchise. They're a popular enough developer that I don't think it would have hurt their sales at all.

But given the situation, Baldur's Gate III seems to be coming along fine. The first chapter is packed with high quality content, and that bodes well for the rest of the game. I might argue that Larian seems to be paying more attention to the official Dungeons & Dragons rulebooks and manuals rather than the first two games in the series, but perhaps they're looking for a clean break on purpose. Or, given that many of the people you meet in the first chapter mention Baldur's Gate, maybe we'll see that city soon, and the game will begin feeling like it belongs in the series. Plus, maybe we'll see some cameos.

Baldur's Gate III doesn't have a release date yet, but since it's nowhere near being complete, don't expect it before 2022. In fact, unless Larian is holding back a bunch of the game from early access, I'd say don't expect it until 2023. Pretty much everything can change between now and then. It'll be interesting to watch how the game evolves.

 

[Gargaune]

The armour gives disadvantage to the stealth check. Or am I misunderstanding what you're getting at?

What Tuco Benedicto Pacifico said, you can see it even in the earliest gameplay demo, when Swen snuck Astarion up behind a halfling sentry on a crate, no roll involved.

I guess Larian's worry is "What if it's a multiplayer session and the other player doesn't want to join the fight started from his partner?".
To which my answer would be "Well, tough luck, motherfucker". If you are hanging around with a psychopath murderhobo it makes only sense that as the idiot procures a fight you'll be involved even if you didn't want to. Choose better company next time. And don't attempt to ruin the game for everyone else with your stupid whiny "What ifs" as we are on it. Sucker.

I imagine the multiplayer's also the reason for the backwards initiative system, with it triggering on the enemy perceiving individual PCs rather than the sum of proximity and anyone in the party having entered combat.

But that's just a consequence of how they handle vision cones: monsters can only detect characters in their vision cones, so your noise only matters if you are directly in front of them (otherwise you won't be forced to make a Stealth check). Removing those damned cones and implementing an all-around vision would force you to make a Stealth check whenever you approach an enemy, making noise matter (where "matter", in the context of 5E, almost always means getting disadvantage or advantage).

The alternative is going for something like in Deadfire, where you have a long vision cone and a short hearing radius, and then just leveraging a level of advantage modification inside the latter.

GameBanshee preview: https://www.gamebanshee.com/previews/125194-baldur-s-gate-iii-preview/all-pages.html

I wish I could tag this preview

,

and

all at the same time. Just missing a pinch of griping over the Toilet Chain.

 

[Atchodas]

Stopped reading that review at the point where he wrote a paragraph about availability of save scumming and how its source of all evil ... JUST DONT FUCKING DO IT problem solved.

 

[Shrimp]

Stopped reading that review at the point where he wrote a paragraph about availability of save scumming and how its source of all evil ... JUST DONT FUCKING DO IT problem solved.

Even if you choose not to do it the mere existence of the possibility of save scumming is bad because some dumb game designers start to plan and balance their game around the expectation that success or progress only is one reload away.
All games should be designed as if ironman mode (only one savefile, preferably one that auto updates after every decision or input) was the only save mode.

 

[Desiderius]

Yeah, sure, you can fuck and knock up the entire harem, but it's not what you do with it for the vast majority of the time. You don't have enough stamina and time to have sex with all your harem women constantly. You could also have a harem of women even when you are not (very) interested in women. Look at Alexander the Great. So, a lich could have a harem of succubi no problem even with no working organs or carnal drives.

Opening the Codex is like 50% "Man, I can't believe I ever leave this place, look at this cool post about some awesome RPG I forgot existed or didn't even know about" and 50% *closes tab* "fuck I feel dirty I need to take a shower to get rid of the awkward autism"