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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

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More importantly it is all just text dialogue. There are no special cutscenes or anything so in the total amount of effort it took compared to moderns games is almost zero. The comparison is basically invalid.
The comparison I made was between Dragon Age 1, 2 and Inquisition and The Witcher games. Mass Effect too.

If your statement applies to anything, it applies to FriendlyMerchant, who already lost the argument when he failed to come up with a response to my last post.
On top of that, it's only three women for a male character and only one male for female characters who will romance you. That's out of the sixteen companions.
There aren't going to be 16 companions in BG3. They have to hire modelers and voice actors for each one. They can't just hire an artist to draw a single portrait and only voice 50 out of 1000 lines like they did in BG1&2.

You're comparing apples to oranges.
This game on the other hand is every companion you come across propositioning you within the first chapter alone with just you playing the game normally.
Untrue. As you said, this doesn't apply to Shadowheart. IIRC you don't even get a sex scene with her in chapter one, just a kiss. She doesn't proposition you either.

It also doesn't apply to either to Wyll or Gale.

Only two out of the 5 companions do it, and it fits their personalities. The dark elf isn't even a companion and it fits dark elf lore. There's also a similar event with a dark elf in BG2.

Oops, there goes your narrative.
The fact that they're wasting development time on making porn and all these other cutscenes when the goal was initially to develop a GAME is what the problem is. If they weren't trying to make awkwardly animated cutscenes for every single little piece of dialogue and instead just did what they did in their previous game, they'd be finished developing this game already.
The scenes are mostly done and have been done for a very long time now. As I've said repeatedly, this is a ridiculous assertion, as the people who film animations aren't the people who make other content for the game. You're crying over time and budget concerns when you don't even have any idea about how much time and budget has been "wasted" on these scenes.

Everything he's complaining about is based on either lies or false equivalency. Comparing BG2's 2d sprites and unvoiced dialog to the modern cinematic design that was clearly both Larain and WotC's goal, or lying and saying that all characters have a sex scene in chapter one and that all of them proposition the player, when neither statement is true.
 

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More importantly it is all just text dialogue. There are no special cutscenes or anything so in the total amount of effort it took compared to moderns games is almost zero. The comparison is basically invalid.
The comparison I made was between Dragon Age 1, 2 and Inquisition and The Witcher games. Mass Effect too.

If your statement applies to anything, it applies to FriendlyMerchant, who already lost the argument when he failed to come up with a response to my last post.
On top of that, it's only three women for a male character and only one male for female characters who will romance you. That's out of the sixteen companions.
There aren't going to be 16 companions in BG3. They have to hire modelers and voice actors for each one. They can't just hire an artist to draw a single portrait and only voice 50 out of 1000 lines like they did in BG1&2.

You're comparing apples to oranges.
This game on the other hand is every companion you come across propositioning you within the first chapter alone with just you playing the game normally.
Untrue. As you said, this doesn't apply to Shadowheart. IIRC you don't even get a sex scene with her in chapter one, just a kiss. She doesn't proposition you either.

It also doesn't apply to either to Wyll or Gale.

Only two out of the 5 companions do it, and it fits their personalities. The dark elf isn't even a companion and it fits dark elf lore. There's also a similar event with a dark elf in BG2.

Oops, there goes your narrative.
The fact that they're wasting development time on making porn and all these other cutscenes when the goal was initially to develop a GAME is what the problem is. If they weren't trying to make awkwardly animated cutscenes for every single little piece of dialogue and instead just did what they did in their previous game, they'd be finished developing this game already.
The scenes are mostly done and have been done for a very long time now. As I've said repeatedly, this is a ridiculous assertion, as the people who film animations aren't the people who make other content for the game. You're crying over time and budget concerns when you don't even have any idea about how much time and budget has been "wasted" on these scenes.

Everything he's complaining about is based on either lies or false equivalency. Comparing BG2's 2d sprites and unvoiced dialog to the modern cinematic design that was clearly both Larain and WotC's goal, or lying and saying that all characters have a sex scene in chapter one and that all of them proposition the player, when neither statement is true.

Your response was retarded. It didn't merit a written response.
 

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It's going to be 500 more pages of crying about porn scenes you have to willingly engage in and purposely not skip, isn't it?
We're going to be pointlessly and disingenuously whining about optional content until the game is released yes:dance:

And after too :shittydog:
Glad you sign on to this as well.

I can simply reference your post now and point out that you're just being a disingenuous troll from now on.
Your response was retarded. It didn't merit a written response.
Case and point, faggot.
 

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It's going to be 500 more pages of crying about porn scenes you have to willingly engage in and purposely not skip, isn't it?
We're going to be pointlessly and disingenuously whining about optional content until the game is released yes:dance:

And after too :shittydog:
Glad you sign on to this as well.

I can simply reference your post now and point out that you're just being a disingenuous troll from now on.
Your response was retarded. It didn't merit a written response.
Case and point, faggot.

Okay retard. Whatever floats your short-bus.
 

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More importantly it is all just text dialogue. There are no special cutscenes or anything so in the total amount of effort it took compared to moderns games is almost zero. The comparison is basically invalid.
The comparison I made was between Dragon Age 1, 2 and Inquisition and The Witcher games. Mass Effect too.

If your statement applies to anything, it applies to FriendlyMerchant, who already lost the argument when he failed to come up with a response to my last post.
On top of that, it's only three women for a male character and only one male for female characters who will romance you. That's out of the sixteen companions.
There aren't going to be 16 companions in BG3. They have to hire modelers and voice actors for each one. They can't just hire an artist to draw a single portrait and only voice 50 out of 1000 lines like they did in BG1&2.

You're comparing apples to oranges.
This game on the other hand is every companion you come across propositioning you within the first chapter alone with just you playing the game normally.
Untrue. As you said, this doesn't apply to Shadowheart. IIRC you don't even get a sex scene with her in chapter one, just a kiss. She doesn't proposition you either.

It also doesn't apply to either to Wyll or Gale.

Only two out of the 5 companions do it, and it fits their personalities. The dark elf isn't even a companion and it fits dark elf lore. There's also a similar event with a dark elf in BG2.

Oops, there goes your narrative.
The fact that they're wasting development time on making porn and all these other cutscenes when the goal was initially to develop a GAME is what the problem is. If they weren't trying to make awkwardly animated cutscenes for every single little piece of dialogue and instead just did what they did in their previous game, they'd be finished developing this game already.
The scenes are mostly done and have been done for a very long time now. As I've said repeatedly, this is a ridiculous assertion, as the people who film animations aren't the people who make other content for the game. You're crying over time and budget concerns when you don't even have any idea about how much time and budget has been "wasted" on these scenes.

Everything he's complaining about is based on either lies or false equivalency. Comparing BG2's 2d sprites and unvoiced dialog to the modern cinematic design that was clearly both Larain and WotC's goal, or lying and saying that all characters have a sex scene in chapter one and that all of them proposition the player, when neither statement is true.

And? What does change about what I said about the effort put into it in comparison to following titles? Nothing you said had any bearing to what I said. Thanks for wasting my time with more drivel. I find it amazing how you make fun of critics of the romance/sex scenes taking away development time from other content by disparaging the amount of time they spend on it yet the same can be said about you, which is delicious irony indeed.
 

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Tbh I'm excited for BG3 romances if they're good. I think good romances can add a lot to an RPG, and they're easily ignorable if you don't like them. I hated the DOS:2 companions/romances but the VERY EDGY GAMER said BG3 has much better writing so I'm hopeful.

I don't care to watch sex scenes, but I prefer text boxes over all forms of cutscenes so I don't see including sex scenes as any different. Ultimately AAA RPG's are going to prefer voice acting and facial animations over prose in a text box every single time.
 

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I find it amazing how you make fun of critics of the romance/sex scenes taking away development time from other content by disparaging the amount of time they spend on it yet the same can be said about you, which is delicious irony indeed.
The same can be said about me? So you think I'm bitching about dev time supposedly wasted on these scenes?

Learn to form a sentence, sped.
 

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It's going to be 500 more pages of crying about people complaining about porn scenes you have to willingly engage in and purposely not skip, isn't it?
You forgot an important piece of your post. FTFY, no need to thank me.

I'm aware I like to exaggerate, but I think you posted more about this particular subject than anyone else. Even right now, this entire discussion is still going on only because you're actively fomenting it. I think you can just drop it and everyone will probably stop talking about it (at least until someone else finds that damned thread again...).

I hated the DOS:2 companions/romances but the VERY EDGY GAMER said BG3 has much better writing so I'm hopeful.
Why did you hate companions in D:OS 2? I kind of liked Ifan, Lohse, Fane, and the Red Prince. Writing definitely wasn't that game's strongest point, but the leap from the first one was astonishing. If going from D:OS 2 to BG3 we get comparable levels of improvement, this game will be a literary masterpiece which will be studied in schools forever.
 

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Why did you hate companions in D:OS 2? I kind of liked Ifan, Lohse, Fane, and the Red Prince.
Tbh it's hard to say why since I spent the entire game attempting to claw my ears and eyes out whenever they were on screen, and I'd have to replay the game to analyse it in depth. Mostly they felt narcissistic, unlikeable, and way too "cool," as if they were tumblr oc's. The scene where Sebille instantly puts a needle to your neck and decides not to kill you is a good example. It immediately took me out of the game that a super cool epic awesome companion would instantly put a needle to my neck and threaten my life. On my first playthrough I ended up killing most of the companions in Fort Joy because I hated them and took Beast and Fane with me. Since Beast was the most down to earth and seemed like a mostly normal dude, and Fane was... well he was narcissistic but in a much more fun way than the other companions.

Personally I much preferred the companions in the first game. They had less character depth but they were overall silly and fun, whereas the DOS:2 companions were infuriating.
 

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Mostly they felt narcissistic, unlikeable, and way too "cool," as if they were tumblr oc's.
Then I'd say you probably won't like BG3 companions, at least if those we got to see so far represent the whole package. "Narcissistic and way too cool" accurately describes four of them, with only Gale being more chill and down to earth. To me, those four feel like PnP PCs of someone who's trying a bit too hard (which I guess is true also for D:OS 2 companions).

I still like them, though (apart from Astarion, which is too much even for me). They don't feel out of place considering the tone of the game.
 

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Mostly they felt narcissistic, unlikeable, and way too "cool," as if they were tumblr oc's.
Then I'd say you probably won't like BG3 companions, at least if those we got to see so far represent the whole package. "Narcissistic and way too cool" accurately describes four of them, with only Gale being more chill and down to earth. To me, those four feel like PnP PCs of someone who's trying a bit too hard (which I guess is true also for D:OS 2 companions).

I still like them, though (apart from Astarion, which is too much even for me). They don't feel out of place considering the tone of the game.

Gale is down to earth? He's literary, claiming that he had sex with the goddess of magic what a fucking nerd

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Mostly they felt narcissistic, unlikeable, and way too "cool," as if they were tumblr oc's.
Then I'd say you probably won't like BG3 companions, at least if those we got to see so far represent the whole package. "Narcissistic and way too cool" accurately describes four of them, with only Gale being more chill and down to earth. To me, those four feel like PnP PCs of someone who's trying a bit too hard (which I guess is true also for D:OS 2 companions).

I still like them, though (apart from Astarion, which is too much even for me). They don't feel out of place considering the tone of the game.

Gale is down to earth? He's literary, claiming that he had sex with the goddess of magic what a fucking nerd

Screenshot_2020_10_15_14.45.45.0.png

I guess the sex was... magical!
:happytrollboy:
 

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Gale is down to earth? He's literary, claiming that he had sex with the goddess of magic what a fucking nerd
His backstory is indeed insane, but he still acts like a bro and, unlike the rest of the cast, he isn't constantly reminding you either that he is an invincible hero or that all your actions are wrong and all your opinions are shit. During the actual game he felt more in the background than the rest of the cast. Lae'zel never drops her "I'm insufferable" act, Shadowheart is trapped in her mysterious ways and literally calls herself Shadowheart, and Astarion could very well walk around with a "I'm an edgy gay vampire" sign tied to his neck. While Gale feels more natural. But yeah, then he starts revealing his backstory and what the fuck man calm down
 

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Gale is down to earth? He's literary, claiming that he had sex with the goddess of magic what a fucking nerd
His backstory is indeed insane, but he still acts like a bro and, unlike the rest of the cast, he isn't constantly reminding you either that he is an invincible hero or that all your actions are wrong and all your opinions are shit. During the actual game he felt more in the background than the rest of the cast. Lae'zel never drops her "I'm insufferable" act, Shadowheart is trapped in her mysterious ways and literally calls herself Shadowheart, and Astarion could very well walk around with a "I'm an edgy gay vampire" sign tied to his neck. While Gale feels more natural. But yeah, then he starts revealing his backstory and what the fuck man calm down

I re-read your post is the hero thing about Wyll? I thought you have forgotten him like everyone else he is also cool they should just drop his int to 8 sow e can have explanation to why he talks about himself in third person
 

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Gale is down to earth? He's literary, claiming that he had sex with the goddess of magic what a fucking nerd
His backstory is indeed insane, but he still acts like a bro and, unlike the rest of the cast, he isn't constantly reminding you either that he is an invincible hero or that all your actions are wrong and all your opinions are shit. During the actual game he felt more in the background than the rest of the cast. Lae'zel never drops her "I'm insufferable" act, Shadowheart is trapped in her mysterious ways and literally calls herself Shadowheart, and Astarion could very well walk around with a "I'm an edgy gay vampire" sign tied to his neck. While Gale feels more natural. But yeah, then he starts revealing his backstory and what the fuck man calm down

I re-read your post is the hero thing about Wyll? I thought you have forgotten him like everyone else he is also cool they should just drop his int to 8 sow e can have explanation to why he talks about himself in third person
Baldurs-Gate-3-Wyll-Romance1.jpg

He looks like he
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I'm aware I like to exaggerate, but I think you posted more about this particular subject than anyone else.
He says, lying "exaggerating" again.
Even right now, this entire discussion is still going on only because you're actively fomenting it.
Nigger, you were all going on about it since December when that sperg pedo posted his manifesto on the Larian forums over the holidays.
 

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Gale is down to earth? He's literary, claiming that he had sex with the goddess of magic what a fucking nerd
In fairness, isn't she a massive slut who has sex with half the people she interacts with? :M
 

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